Hannibal, (Are you smiling?)

First of all, you have the wrong idea: I love Mark. How could I not? He put himself out on the line as we all do here and thus allowed my own Inner Processes to materialize. My intent was not to 'pick on him' but to invite him to come fly!
He invited me to do this by the way, by the things he said. Didn't you 'hear' him? ;-)

Secondly: I don't remember once saying anything about supporting the 'murdering of babies'. Neither did Oliver. And I said absolutely nothing about abortion. Period! In fact, such an attack is ludicrous and beneath your otherwise warm, fuzzy presence and absolutely brilliant mind. Did you really mean to attack me that way? (I'm willing to think that you really probably didn't read what I said very well....?)

Personally I know of NO ONE on the planet who would be for such a thing as murdering babies. Personally, I say. And the moment they said it, they would certainly be out of my life. So what is your point here?

What I said, and I will reiterate: What I do with my body is between me and my godhead. For you to say otherwise is to enslave me. What is more, you are telling me that YOU KNOW MORE about what is good for me than my godhead does. Really, Hannibal, think about it!

I simply do not give you the right to make me your slave anymore than I give it to the government masters. AND please note: There is not one word in that statement about dead babies or abortion. NOTHING; NADA.

However, since you brought it up, I find it verrrrry interesting that both you and Mark picked this up while ignoring the ABSOLUTE MURDERING AND SACRIFICING OF BABIES AND CHILDREN GOING ON IN THE NAME OF THE NWO! I didn't hear anybody say much about how HORRIBLE that was. AND it is interesting to note that these are the very people who PAY for the protestors at the abortion clinics as well as those horrible pictures and other propaganda to push your emotional buttons. Don't you get it? 'DIVIDE AND CONQUER!' Whenever a woman, such as myself, tells you that they have the right to choose, you don't ask 'choose what?' Instead, you allow that word "choice" to push an emotional button in you right down to the point where you are 'front and ready' to enslave another human being and take away their godgiven rights. Please tell me: How is this any different that what the ATF, IRS, CIA, FBI, NWO and all the other pneumonics want to do to us? Don't you see this?

But there is another point here: If you don't recognize my own sovereignty, then you will never be able to recognize yours. And THE Powermongers will always be able to 'divide and conquer'.

Your stance reminds me somewhat of Rosie O'Donnel who is totally for gun control, even while she hires a whole host of armed body guards to take care of her. (Okay...I know...the Rosie O'Donnel thing...I'm hitting below the belt...I couldn't help myself....(grins!)

Of course, Mark can like who he wants. I don't remember saying he couldn't. And he may find me absolutely detestable. Okay. I'll like him anyway. I learned the hard way that I have a Mind big enough to take in the fact that you and I may not agree. That we can have differences because of where we are at in the process of our awakening. For instance, I totally accept the fact that my Catholic mother is so into her religion that she is convinced I am going to hell. I love her anyway. I see the folly of her thinking. And I see why it is so important to her. I also see that she cannot have room in her heart for me because her beliefs are limiting her. But I'm not going to limit myself from the joy of loving her just because of her ignorance. Why would I?

The reason is that I know her Intent is good, however ignorant or misguided it may be. And there is always the possibility that like the Grinch who stole Christmas, one day, her heart (and her knowledge) will grow big enough to include me in it.

It is clear to me that your Intent is also not threatening. You aren't going to go out and shoot me...just because I don't agree with you on every little thing. However, if I thought that your intent was to purposefully enslave me in order to FORCE ME to physically support YOUR POSITION on anything, then that would be slavery and in its own way, rape.

I realize I am being graphic here, but it is important, very important that we all respect each other's soverign rights as individuals. The moment that you tell me what I can or cannot do with my own body self, you are setting up the structure whereby the powermongers will one day be able to enslave you as well.

Indeed, that is EXACTLY where we are today.

As I've said before, the only legitimate prejudice is against ignorance. Let me put this in perspective: If you were in a car accident and your vehicle was hanging off of a cliff and the only one present to help you happened to be a one-eyed female Jew with a black Palestinian husband who wasn't with her, would you, while hanging by one tire, say, "Wait a minute there, I've got to make sure you are genetically and ethnically and 'genitalie' correct and that you've never had an abortion before I accept your help? Of Course not. Yet that is all ultimately that it comes down to.

Do you really think that his 'god' cared one whit about Victor Frankl's politics or religion or his stand on abortion when the light of love came pouring through his broken, starving, beaten, freezing, naked body? No, of course not.

These are not issues that you and I get to decide for anyone else. And the moment we recognize this and respect the other person's choice NO MATTER what we might choose for ourselves, we are accepting that everything is okay in the natural order of things. The fact is, tyranny is tyranny no matter how you dress it up in self-righteousness!

And by the way, I love warriors. Indeed, I am one myself, Castaneda 'born and bred'!

Okay, your turn...Love the intellectual tango. Okay, gigi, let's all dance!
Best,
Esclarmonde