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Reader Charles: "Part II RESPONSE TO COMMENTS."

Posted By: hobie
Date: Thursday, 17-Nov-2022 00:51:24
www.rumormill.news/211431

In Response To: Reader Charles: "I, Charles C. Miller, DO NOT CONSENT to Anna Von Reitz claims of being underwriter or fiduciary in a ..." (hobie)

(Thanks, C. :)

Reader Charles Miller now writes;

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Re: Reader Charles: 'I, Charles C. Miller, DO ....

Part II RESPONSE TO COMMENTS.

I thank the two individuals commenting on my published challenged to Anna, for failing to produce the evidence backing Anna’s suppositions.
The proof that your belief is more important than the facts or law available on public records invites confusion to all who, while seeking understanding, fail or refuse to simply review the openly available facts.
Facts in this case are the written records, true or false, that are fixed in the past.
Public records are never deniable and in all law systems must be taken as fact when and as presented. In order to negate the facts, controverting facts must be presented and weighed as to credibility.

Reader Al; In order for an argument or discussion to take place there must be two parties presenting opposing positions.


Anna guarantees absolutely no discussion can or ever will be had by refusing consistently for years, to present facts or law or even discussions supporting her positions other than her own confusions.
Your position that questioning Anna is somehow a new attack or creation of more confusion fails utterly under this statement.
The hallmark of self imposed slavery of the mind and heart is the refusal to even consider open discussion being the first step to resolution based on the best evidence available being the subject matter at issue. Second is the destruction of guru status by exposure in open discussion wherein as much information as possible is openly reviewed in public. Then and only then under open discussion is it possible to find the best resolutions.
Closing the mind to new information guarantees the same problems will be addressed in the same manner, resulting in continuation of the problem.
Ultimate conclusion is the problem is fed by approaching it the same way that is known to have failed previously.
Insanity is applying the same tools and expecting different results.
Secrets always, always hide something which is usually beneficial only to who ever is doing the hiding.
I refuse to engage with intentional ignorance and limiting open discussion.
First Amendment in action perhaps?

Reader C; How do you or any one else know Anna is correct in any of her suppositions when you deny the possibility of new information being introduced that could clarify or fine tune current understandings?
How is confusing one issue covering a single point with off point, scattered conjecture when the actual public documents at issue are available in service to either true understanding or actually seeking and exposing resolution?
Closed eyes never see the picture and only know of it through some one that have eyes to see.
The blinders worn by unthinking followers is the only support dictators need to stay in power.

Reader Al and C.; I do not pass judgement on Anna’s intent.
I merely demand open dialogue. This is the right of any American when we could be affected by Anna’s confusions.
Any one attacking or hiding from open dialogue based on belief that closing dialogues exposing facts and law is inviting others into the world of yesterday collapsing all around us.
Yesterdays world and its operations are in complete collapse because to many secrets in to many venues, covering to many corruptions, could no longer maintain the illusion of credibility.
You all are inviting me to give up critical thinking, common sense, logic, recognition of facts and law contained in public records, challenging the status quo, which in essence demands I give up the American way memorialized in and by the People’s constitutions controlled by Declaration of Rights and the national Bill of Rights for holding public figures to account, through demanding proofs of fact and law.
That invitation is based solely on your beliefs that Anna’s confusions are more valuable than the time tested, honored and very effective method of open dialogue with as much evidence as possible being available for review and dialogue.
I will pass on becoming a believer that Anna’s confusions and refusing open dialogues testing positions are more valuable that open discussion.

Hobie, How is it possible to mis-understand confusions?
Clarity and precision backed up by public records are relatively easy to understand.
Confusions are never understandable because the nature of confusions, no matter how presented, are intended to confuse.
Confused means no understanding is possible.
I do not mis-understand Anna’s works of confusion because the confusions she presents are utterly destroyed by simply checking her referenced material and reading the documents.
Public records, true or false, do not lie, even when they are misleading or incomplete or based on secrets.
Conclusions reached by incomplete or misleading evidence are always faulty.
I asked Anna , through intermediaries allegedly close to her to answer the following questions. Years later I still wait for a response.
“ Can you define your political, legal and commercial relationships to governments of the States United and their franchised entities such as the Federal Reserve private money system or corporations allowed to operate under the People’s law of constitutions?”
“ If one can not define their personal political, legal and commercial relationships to governments and provide evidence of same, do they have one? Or, are they defined by public servants and franchised entities operating under umbrella of governments authorities? “
“ Is accepting authorities, acting under them, real or imagined authorities, with out question the hallmark of a slave? “
“ Is refusing to engage in good faith dialogue an indication of chicaneries being in motion? “

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Articles In This Thread

Anna Von Reitz: "Public and International Notice: I'm the Underwriter"
hobie -- Monday, 14-Nov-2022 06:43:42
Anna Von Reitz: "A Right Versus a Privilege -- the Trap of Incorporation"
hobie -- Monday, 14-Nov-2022 00:19:25
Reader Charles: "I, Charles C. Miller, DO NOT CONSENT to Anna Von Reitz claims of being underwriter or fiduciary in a ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:33:40
Reader: "Endless in-fighting, arguing, and name calling. Pushing, pulling, fighting over the toilet tissue while straining at gnats we collectively circle the drain ..."
hobie -- Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 02:56:41
Reader: "Charles, it seems to me that you may need a history lesson, she is correct in the information that she provides to us."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:17:14
Reader: "Anna’s work covers the whole spectrum of ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 16-Nov-2022 05:17:14
Reader Charles: "Part II RESPONSE TO COMMENTS."
hobie -- Thursday, 17-Nov-2022 00:51:24
From Anna von Reitz: "We have already published the absolute reasoning and proof — provided by Family Guardian, by the way— that ..."
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 05:59:56
Reader Charles: "Anna; THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE"
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 06:06:35
From Anna Von Reitz: "Instead of acting as yet another Armchair Quarterback, I suggest that you try what we are currently doing and see ..."
hobie -- Monday, 21-Nov-2022 04:55:06
Reader Charles: "PART IV, AGAIN, ANNA, THANK YOU FOR THE EVIDENCE."
hobie -- Monday, 21-Nov-2022 04:55:06
Reader: '"has anyone ever had a judge confess?" Yes. During 2009, I ...'
hobie -- Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 05:59:56

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