VP I am hesitant to respond as I suspect the detailed exploration of personal beliefs and opinions on these topics is not the purpose of this forum. Because you have directed to me a number of questions, and because we are now somewhat buried on the page, I will go ahead and provide brief comments. If you would like to continue a more detailed dialogue then perhaps you will instead provide an e-mail address so that we could "take it outside".

Data Junkie, can you please tell me how to differentiate between a new age "channeler" and a Catholic Mystic who is receiving messages from the Holy Ghost?

[The location of the source, as well as the response to theological questions, are the cornerstones of spiritual discernment and I think should be applied to both categories you present above.]

And once you have explained this to me, can you then try to tell me the difference between government mind control [technological] and new age channeling [spiritual] and catholic mystics [spiritual] and Holy Rollers [spiritual] who are possessed by the "spirit" and speak in tongues? I think our new attorney general is one of them.

[Spiritual sources need to be discerned, just as we discern media sources in the physical world, for they all have their agendas.]

Your list of Bible quotes was a worthless and meaningless addition to this thread. [I agree many people think as such.] Why did you post it there? [It was apparent to me that the original analysis of Icke was scripturally grounded.] No one is going to take the time to look up those Bible quotes. [I did; to me they are of value.] If you really wanted to add something, maybe you should have looked them up yourself and put the actual words on the Forum rather than just the chapter, verse etc.... [I provided a link to where they could be read. I thought the summary of content was adequate for this forum.]

I don't know why this angered me so much. I normally don't get angry at things on the Forum.. expecially not something as innocuous as Data Junkie's post... the fact that it did anger me let's me know that on a level at which ALL of us are connected to each other... there is/are lies being promoted as truth! [I would suggest that the Jungian concept of collective unconsciousness to which you refer is one of the lies being promoted.]