Dear Novaliz:

First of all, I CHOSE to presume that Rixon called me a "Dummy" in an affectionate manner. It did not disturb me but 'invited' me to write him back in a way I would not have done otherwise.
Rixon is a very passionate individual when it comes to truth. And I love his ideas and usually agree with him. But agreeing with him is not near as much fun as disagreeing!

What we fail to see here is that, EACH of us, are, in our own way, passionate about our OWN Truth. Like Time, Truth is Relative.

Second of all, I said all of this in the first answer to your post. You PRESUME to KNOW what Mr. Icke means because you are looking for what you are getting. WE ALWAYS GET WHAT WE LOOK FOR. But to smear another because you are looking for something ugly is unfair. To tell the world that you look for ugly things, is your business, but to then threaten the world that they are in great danger if they don't see the same ugliness you see, is simply stepping on my toes. Because I am that world and I GET to DECIDE for me HOW I will see it. And I may not enjoy UGLY. Is that such a terrible thing?

I used John Denver as an example because his song writing SYMBOLIZED love and light. When the Congressional Committee investigating music's ability to promote drug behavior in teens called him to testify, they wanted to know why he would write a song SYMBOLIZING getting high on pot called 'Rocky Mountain High'. He was furious with them! HOW DARE THEY MAKE SUCH A PRESUMPTION! HOW DARE THEY SULLY HIS SYMBOL OF COMMUNION WITH NATURE! Unfortunately, Congress was REALLY THAT ignorant. But they could fan the flames of Reactionary Ignorance by simply SAYING it.

And THAT is what I saw you doing to Mr. Icke. He has put together a web site that entices and interests and invites an experience. Anyone who goes there may make any assumptions they like. Those who don't like him, such as yourself, don't have to go back. It is like the sex sites that proliferate: Don't like them? Don't go there. Period. Mr. Icke Does NOT grab you by the throat, throw you to the floor and pump his diatribe into you intravenously. Does he? No. He does not. But what of the Symbols? Well, maybe they WILL seep in to the Right Hemisphere, the Magnificent Symbol Brain that is even now bored to tears because we do not ACTIVELY use it. What would happen, if it became active, after all? What kind of a world would we have with folks everywhere running around living through their symbols brain?

Well, news flash: That is EXACTLY what the Truly Adult Brain is supposed to do. We just don't have many of these brains on our planet. WE were MEANT to USE this brain. The Left Sphere was supposed to develop the autism of language. In adolescence, it was supposed to give way to the Right Symbol Brain so it could integrate the Mind with the Heart and the Groin, thus activating the perfect Transceiver with its Resonating Brain Cavity. We are such phenomenally beautiful creatures! In other words, the Left Brain develops language and then turns this ability over to its Right Brain! Then it gets to use the 'meaningfulness' that is squeezed out of language to PLAY and CREATE!

Instead, somebody 'tinkered' with the language programming. (Mr. Icke may even have a line on who that 'somebody' was....slimy lizard raisin brain...teehee...;) When we are born, we are immediately immersed into a way of seeing that teaches us NEVER to trust the Symbols brain. So when we reach adolescence and the Corpus Calosum finishes linking up the two sides of the brain, we STAY children STUCK in our Language Brains ONLY. The Symbols Brain is Literally made a 'ward of the state/religion, etc.' and never becomes part of us. In this way, Man never attains his perfect godself. And his Spiritual Energy is being drained out of him through the veins of emotive words...like 'evil', guilt, hatred, rage, jealousy.

[THIS IS THE THING THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY, RIXON. And there are times when I would like to borrow your punching bag so I don't say things that will bite someone unfairly.]

As Hobie says, 'We're already free'; we just don't KNOW it. Every day, we have the opportunity to make these choices for our Selves. And every day, someone with a Superiority point of view comes along and wants to burn books and ban experience so that others don't get to exercise their god-given Right to Choose for Themselves. This keeps the rest of us awake though. The 'I'm-gonna-protect-you-from-yourselves' folks are the Petty Tyrants. AND THEY ARE VERY MUCH THE ONES BEING USED BY THE CONTROLLERS. They are the 'crab pot guards'.

It seems to me that You want to do the old Catholic thing and 'imprimatur' the spiritual web sites so as not to excite the masses. (And of course, we can't let them know about UFO's either) They might get caught up in ...WHAT exactly? What were you warning us against? Exactly? Evil? What is that? Exactly? Your Angel of the Apocalypse Symbolism means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ME. NOTHING. I am not afraid of it because it simply doesn't exist. For Me. The fact that you are afraid of it and you throw out the 'evil' word will will always have the potential of causing others to jump on your bandwagon in no less the same as Salem Massachusetts or the Inquisition. Somebody stands up and presumes to take charge (Hitler did it too). They use this tactic EVERY time. And before you know it, we are burning books, banning web sites, and limiting free speech.
Is that what you want? Because that is exactly what we have gotten out of this kind of FEARful thinking for the last eons of our existence.

In fact, the TRUE Language of the Human Heart is Symbolism. Symbolism was man's first language. The fact that he developed a less literal way to communicate later did not make the alphabet BETTER than the pictograph. It just meant that it was another way to experience existence.

I was told recently that someone was maligning Rayelan over on Icke's Forum. Probably much like you have maligned Icke here. And I can only hope that somebody over there was alert enough to stand up for her right to exist just as I am standing up for his.

As for your being an individual who spreads disinformation: Anyone who tries to give me the FISH instead of letting me go use my own ability to FISH has another agenda aside from the promotion of FREEDOM. It may simply be an agenda of Fear, but it is not an agenda that allows me to BECOME a fully realized Consciousness.

BAPTISM: Ceremony or Merit Badge?
Let me explain here using Baptism and Paul. The Essenes taught that baptism was a celebration that SYMBOLIZED THAT a Soul had reached a certain state of enlightenment. People were baptized when they had 'done the work' that allowed them intellectual FREEDOM. But it was the WORK itself that was important; not the ceremony of Baptism.

Paul, the Apostle who NEVER even met Christ, let alone sat at the last supper, was a very charismatic guy. He told folks that they didn't have to WORK for It anymore. They didn't need to work to develop their mental ailities. All they had to do was believe what he TOLD them and he'd baptise them. Then they'd have EVERYTHING that the Essenes had. WEll, they'd have their baptismal certificate, anyway. And that is ALL it was about: The ceremony; not the MInd! Then old Constantine came along and saw the efficacy of this. He said, Well, let's get 'em when thet're babies, then we own them. Then 2,000 years later, give or take a century, and the Federal Gov said, Old Constantine KNEW what he was doing: We'll give 'em birth certificates and use them as chattel.... Boy! What we gave up when we let THEM tell us what to think!!!!

This is the old Saleri and Mozart story...same,same. And it is all bogus. You don't get where you want to go by BELIEVING ANYTHING. You either Find out for yourself and KNOW it or you end up being a programmed child, owned by the State your whole life.

I not only KNOW I have a brain that gets its ability to communicate from pictorial symbols, BUT, I LIVE in that Brain! Since I am also dominantly left-eyed, I VIEW the world from that 'symbols brain' and have my whole life. I can always tell when I am in it because it deals in 'sounds' of words instead of 'correct grammatical' structure. When I re-read what I have written on RMN, I can tell that this side of my brain has been doing the writing because my posts will be full of funny errors, both spelling and sound, but not syntax. (Hopefully I manage to correct most of them by turning on the Left Brain Editor before posting...) Syntax is nature; to communicate through symbols is also part of nature. It is the specific grammatically correct language that is 'unnatural' in that it is created by man (Yes, I know the argument about man being part of nature...but that belongs in another very long, complex post).

The Left, Language Brain is a master wordsmith. It is the perfect speller; can diagram the most complex sentence and is an excellent editor. But it is boring and programmed. And without the Right Symbol Sphere of Brain and the Corpus Calosum which connects the two of them together, life would be unbelievably boring.

As to the following:
: Spiritual Truth is found by the Spirit not by
: the earth-bound brain, so I would be more worried if you
: had written that spiritually you found me objectionable.

Exactly the point! Let the Spirit look for beauty and it will take us EXACTLY where we need to get the next piece in our development. That may be to a David Icke page or to an RMN page. It may be to the movie Chocolat! or it may be to a Casteneda, Seth or even the Fire itself. It all depends on what WE NEED at the moment. I will tell you this: Our Right Brain Connection to our Universal Godhood is trying very hard to get our attention. Towards this end, it is creating all sorts of stressful situations for it is stress that creates Soul out of Brain just as extreme pressure creates the diamond.

:The problem, I repeat, is that David is
: saying 'I am a Teacher of Truth', when in reality like most
: other people, including myself, we are only seekers after
: Truth.

You and I would probably not agree on which parts were truth and which were not, after all. But how can this be a problem? He is like a 'teething ring' on which Mind is cutting its 'molars' of Discernment. In fact, there are NO Teachers of Truth. Period. So it doesn't matter what David says (if he does, indeed, say this). There are ONLY Researchers looking for Truth and in that process comes Transformation. Ultimately every Researcher of Truth comes to a point where they realize that WHAT they have been studying is immaterial and secondary to the fact of the Studying Itself. It is the Exercise of Mind that is important; not the dribbling words that fall from it.

For instance, on this page, you and I have had this discourse. People quite often disagree with me. That is fun. Because that means that the process gets to go on and a dialogue ensues which provides for a vigorous exercise, like the one you have just put me through. What you and I will ultimately take away from this Exercise is not the words nor even the ideas, but rigorous mental arobics that further 'wear down the mountains and fill up the valleys' of Mind until it at last pops! Transformation!
That is what it is all about!

And yes, I love the Spirit in You!
Happy Easter,
Esclarmonde