Question: Are there any primitive societies down below?

Answer: Yes, in addition to certain Eskimoes, there are a number of tribes in out of the way areas who go practically naked like certain of your New Guinea and Borneo primitives.

Question: What would you call your form of government?

Answer: Ours is a private enterprise system (as is Bodland and Vikingland). We have a hereditary King (as do the Vikings, Bods and Old Germans).

A republic form of government (re-elected rulers) was tried many thousands of years ago, but it failed.

For 300 years, we had a republic similar to America.

The President was elected for a five year term and could be re-elected three times up to 15 years. This term was changed to one 15 year term and the constitution allowed this for another 300 years. Next, a man was elected for life.

Finally, we returned to the hereditary monarchial system which has been in effect ever since. (Contrary to the Atturian hereditary monarchial system, the present Bodland monarch, King Haakkuuss III, was appointed for life in 1928.

Recently he gave notice he wanted to relinquish his duties and the Bodland parliament is now seeking a new king.) Under the existing monarchy in Atturas, a head of state similar to a Prime Minister is in charge and is elected by parliament on recommendation of the king.

He presides over the upper and lower houses of parliament. He doesn't necessarily sit in the legislative assembly, but all bills must be approved by the Prime Minister and King. Term of office is 15 years.

Both lower and upper houses are for five year terms by the citizens. A few have I been elected for life.

Question: Is not the Atturian state below somewhat of a disciplinary force in all walks of life including religion?

Answer: No, it is not. The state allows freedom of conscience in matters of religious conviction where everyone may hold their own concensus of religious philosophy. But we do have a universal church.

The author was unable to explore Atturian religious beliefs in any detail, partly because of the subject's reluctance to elaborate on their forms of worship, except to have Haammaan admit they worship a Supreme God and

That they regarded Osiris, who visited ancient Atlantis above, as their Christlike advocate with the Supreme Deity.

Haammaan also said that Atturans were divided as to the belief in an afterlife, although this admission was not pursued by the authors.

Interested in the overall religious complexion of the Inner World societies, the author therefore, at a later date, sought further explanations from visiting Bodland lecturer Dr. Jerrmus.

He was persuaded to discuss the Bods' religious beliefs and agreed to do so but forewarned of his reluctance because he did not wish to offend his upper world hosts by arguing either religion or politics.

With the foregoing preface to religion in Bodland, the urbane doctor of Philosophy described Bod religious background with some caution, this paraphrased as follows:

The accepted book of divine inspiration used below by the Bods is the Upper World bible expanded with three Old Testament and two New Testament chapters.

The Bods claim that the existing old testament as used below was compiled by scholars who were not exclusively Hebrew, but included Greek and Bodlanders, Ezekiel being a Bodlander, Dr. Jerrmus claims.

The entire original bible is kept below in their national museum for all to see and compare, whereas the missing bible books of the Upper World are hidden in three places, these being Rome, Cairo and Tibet.

An important book in the Bod New Testament is the Book of Bod, written and compiled by the king of Bod living at the time of Christ. The king was also one of the (four not three) wise men, all of whom were kings, one having begun his journey from a civilization in the Gobi desert.

The second Bod book deals primarily with healing as explained by Christ to the early Christian disciples. Some original manuscripts on exhibit in the National Bod Museum were written by the apostle scribe Saint John and signed by Jesus Christ.

The Book of Bod elaborates more than the known gospels on Christ's birth, as well as the origin and activities of the wise men and the celestial nature of the star, as the direction and focus of its rays were altered from time to time following its appearance almost a year before Christ was born in Bethlehem.

The star was also seen by those in the Inner World and the inhabitants regarded the new light as a long anticipated astrological sign by which the Bod King should begin his journey to pay homage to the Son of God.

The King came through a tunnel, emerging in a Bod temple in Abadan on which there has been built a Moslem mosque, and after the visit of the magi to the Christ child, the King returned below via space craft.

The Book also details the crucifixion and tells particularly how the wrath of God was felt on Earth through the elements of nature including bolts of lightning which killed 12 Roman soldiers who participated in the crucifixion.

The Book also explains how the entire mideast world was caught up in the events of the crucifixion, especially an Assyrian king who began too late a forced march with 3000 troops to save Jesus from death.

But there are also variances in the Book of Bod with the existing gospels. For instance, the Bod version credits the Bod King with warning Mary and Joseph to flee with the infant Jesus to Egypt after his birth in order to escape Herod's hate and vengeance.

Then, after Jesus' first encounter with the teachers and priests in the temple at age 12, the Bod narrative says he was taken by space ship to the Inner Earth where he was tutored in the Palace of the Bod King till his mid twenties, when

He asked to be returned to the Upper World, where he completed his studies in India and Tibet, before beginning his ministry of healing and preaching of salvation.

Thus the wisdom and learning of the Inner World are represented as figuring largely in Christ's earthly pilgrimage, but that preparation does not discount his divinity nor the main purpose of drawing separated mankind back to God, says Dr. Jerrmus, who does not pretend to be a biblical scholar.

The second expunged book which has been denied Upper World biblical readers, but is an integral part of the Inner World bible, is the book of healing, which was the cornerstone of Christ's earthly ministry.

The visiting Bod doctor of literature expounded his opinion that the greatest hindrance to the growth of Christianity in the Upper World was due to the culpability of the early church fathers in their removal of the practical and sacred book on healing,

Which was a legacy of God's mercy not intended exclusively for a priestly caste. St. Luke, the physician, was a Bodlander, claims Dr. Jerrmus.

The learned doctor from the Inner World concluded by saying that their prophets anticipated the arrival of Christ thousands of years before his coming.

They also foretold the end times of this present age which is supposed to include a final holocaust of mankind after which the perfect world order of universal peace and happiness will be reborn.

The Bod pre-Christian temple mentioned earlier, now buried under a Moslem mosque near Abadan, Iran, still has the ancient Bod prophecies engraved on its walls concerning this age.

With this brief mention of religious ethics in the Inner World as described by Dr. Jerrmus, our narrative reverts to the dialogue held with Professor Haammaan on the composition and authority of government in Badland's Inner World neighbor, Atturas. Professor Haammaan continues as follows:

"The state of Atturas does not suppress individual initiative or deny freedom of expression, but neither does it allow such wide range objections and lobbying from self interest groups as is permitted in America.

It seems to me that the constant attempts to tear down government here will lead to anarchy soon, or else a clashing of government forces and various so-called objector groups.

Unlike a dictatorship, the problem of a republican form of government as in America or France is that there is a danger that the central power base needed for civil obedience is dissipated by too many voices of self-willed interest.

Your vested groups in America are very powerful and selfish, often at the expense of the majority electorate! I don't speak of politicians critically, but as an observer. We once had a republican form of government like yours, but abandoned it, as did the people of Bod."

Question: What main dangers lie ahead for Earth?

Answer: Number one -- nuclear war. That is why we came up in 1945. Number two -- an intruding planetary influence that is growing which could drastically change the climate in the entire northern hemispheres of the upper Earth in the next 20 years if the planet is not diverted away.

Past intrusions of this planet Nagirth caused the formation of other continental ice sheets, the origin of which has defied your geologists. Your Science Foundation has all the information here and probably is greatly concerned about this coming new glacial age.

But I believe Nagirth will be deflected.

Question: Have you heard that the Earth's mantle between your people and us is combed with man made tunnels?

Answer: Yes. There are tunnels at varying depths containing very ancient vast civilizations.

We use them to commute between Shamballa and the capital of the subterranean Kingdom of the Far North, located in the mantle under Siberia.

During the time of the Russian Czars there was an upper opening into Siberia through which we had access to Russia via the tunnels, but this opening has been closed since Russia went Communistic.

Openings exist in the U.S.A. and other parts of the upper world.

We use them constantly.

The North American tunnel opening of which I am aware has a "y" located deep in the mantle where a city exists. One line of the "y" goes to Shamballa and the other goes to Bod.

We below are concerned about possible illegal entries of undesirable races from the subterranean world to our nations via tunnels.

Other tunnels are the highways used by certain highly civilized subterranean people who travel via rail from city to city. You nor your readers will likely believe this "inside the Earth's crust” remark, but there are reputed to be more people living there than exist on either surface.

In addition to tunnel dwellers there are major cities supported by steel domes under the ice caps of the Polar regions, which were tropical before past Ice Ages and shifting of earth poles caused the dwellers to cover their cities for protection.

The Antarctic ice-covered, polar cities connect by train tunnels to subterranean mantle cities and major cities of the Inner World. A third of the tunnel cities are natural and the remainder man-made.

Those people living inside have protection against sun and cold, hence a great longevity span. Your Admiral Richard Byrd was taken to one of the domed cities through sub tunnels. We have mapped all existing tunnels and cities, but there could be pockets we don't know of.

When Atlantis sank, our ancestors built plastic domes over those remaining cities which had not yet been inundated by the ocean. Today those six plastic domed cities on the Atlantic bed are still inhabited by our Atlantean people.

In all, I believe there are 28 cities located allover the world underwater, each being reached by saucer craft as well as tunnel trains. The undersea city near San Juan, Puerto Rico, in the Bahama trench is round in shape and is ten miles in diameter. It is occupied by millions of our people.

All our undersea cities also are connected with Shamballa. In effect, our Atlanteans, Bodlanders and Athenians occupy the inner Earth, many of the tunnels and tunnel cities as well as domed cities on the bottom of the oceans.

Part of the former continent of Atlantis sank immediately, but other parts including those on which the domed cities stand, settled beneath the Atlantic over a period of 300 years.

And, of course, the ice formed slowly over the Antarctic sub continent which was the home of the original Garden of Eden, our legends tell.

Question: What is your explanation of the Bermuda Triangle?

Answer: The so called "Bermuda Triangle” does not exist as a defined boundary. During our war with the Athenians we dumped many multi-faceted crystals, of golf ball size, in areas of what today you call the Bermuda Triangle.

The crystals were refractory, power sources of some of our weapons and energy centers. They were able to capture the sun's rays and by internally refracting the rays an intense beam or laser ray was produced. The crystals were first used for peaceful purposes and later developed for war.

These crystals are still operational 11,500 years after they were dumped in these Caribbean areas which subsequently became flooded, but which have been raising gradually since then. When the sun's rays reach the ocean floor of these areas, the crystals are temporarily activated.

When this happens, a steel ship or plane coming in contact with the rays simply disintegrates. Wood is not affected by them.

In the 1600's a fleet of three Dutch ships were sunk in the Sargasso Sea. Survivors, who were found in the lifeboats put together with wooden dowels, told how their larger sailing ships fell apart when the ships metal spikes disintegrated.

In 1641 the Dutch King built an entirely wooden sailing ship with ‘hardwood’ dowels. Sent over the same area, the ship found the floating debris of the former wrecks and returning to Rotterdam in 1641, first told the tale of a sea demon who ate up the ships’ spikes.

Today we know this area is part of the so called ‘Bermuda Triangle’ and the sea demon is the ‘dreadful black rays’ emanating from the ‘crystals’ which early Atlanteans ‘dumped in that area’, now underwater.

But it should be remembered that there are also suppressed reports claiming radioactive waste dumped recently in the Caribbean is causing mysterious effects. The ray in effect is called a black ray by us because it can't be seen.

Our ancestors deployed the disintegrating ray in their war with the Athenians to destroy whole cities and also air ships. It is the most devastating ray weapon in the world. The colorless crystal collects its energy from the sun (making it crystal clear) during the day and releases it whenever it is charged to full capacity.

These crystals are indestructable. They were made active by the bottom of the present sea bed rising, along with bottom sands shifting enough to expose the dormant crystals. The ‘crystals are active only at certain times’. I believe ‘your government is aware of the danger periods’.

Our inner sun is a modified version of these crystals and it, too, is activated in part from the solar sun shining through the Poles throughout the year.

This artificial sun was built in ancient Atlantis, transported inside by our space ships and first charged by the real sun after being orbited in the Earth's interior.

Foreseeing the coming war, our ancestors began our colony below 3000 years before Atlantis sank or approximately 15,000 years ago.

The artificial sun has functioned perfectly since it was installed. Our lead protected engineering "ray men" do go in periodically and check the lantern for replacement parts.

The refractory crystals, however, are everlasting.

Question: When are you going home permanently?

Answer: Your State Department permitting, I intend to remain above for a long time. It is my new home. While attending college, I fell in love with a surface girl and married her. We have three lovely children and I have made this upper world my home.

If my wife and children were to pass on, God forbid, tragically before myself, then I would go back because I expect to have many useful years ahead. But who knows the future so exactly?

Maybe I shall remain above till I die. I have not reckoned how many years of my normal life span I will lose by remaining on the Earth's surface.

Four interviews were held with the two inner world contacts from 1977 to 1979.

Many aspects of their separate civilizations were discussed which have not been introduced here because they do not add to the credibility of a hollow earth. Two important revelations about them should, however, be brought to the reader's attention.

The first is the greater longevity of the old races of the Inner Earth who are actually related to surface dwellers.

Evidence indicates that those below, without exception, live a minimum of a hundred years longer than we do in a single life span and millions apparently live several hundred additional years.

Until we gather further proof of this, a discussion of the longevity of dwellers in the Inner World will be held in abeyance, because the possibility of its being true is more disquieting than anything else discovered.

If the Bodlanders live to be several hundred years, then an exchange of medical teams, which the Bodlanders are anxious to do, would be desirable to provide surface dwellers with the formulas used below.

If, on the other hand, the Atturans live for a thousand years, is it not possible that mankind on the surface has indeed fallen from grace since he left the legendary Garden of Eden? And have human beings been denied longer lives by the finite life sentence of only three score years and ten?

On being asked what was the greatest difference between the Inner and Outer worlds which he first noted on arriving on the surface to live, Haammaan replied, "Old age, hospitals and mortuaries."

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