A response from MAXtheMAGAnificent.

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MAXtheMAGAnificent's Response to Clif High:

Clif High's response to my article is so typical of those who have promoted the hatred and extermination of the Jewish people down through history. I am frankly disappointed in Clif because he is apparently a quite intelligent person, but then again he obviously has an agenda to promote. I would have thought that he would have come up with something more creative than the JosWiki article which relies on the totally discredited "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" propaganda piece and a litany of false flag incidents down through history that have been staged to incite violence against peaceful Jewish populations. But no, Clif turns out to be just another dilletante exploiting his distorted vision of Judaism to sway the general populace to hate the Jewish people for whatever reason is embodied in his agenda.

One other thing...Clif constantly refers to disparaging remarks made by some of the commentators of the Talmuds against non-Jews and Christians. I have to admit that I have never read the Talmuds (there are two of them) but I do know what they are. The Talmuds are compendiums of commentaries made by various sages and academics on the Mishnah, which is the "oral law" or "oral Torah" that was the scholarship on the Torah that had never been written down until after the destruction of the Second Temple in 69CE. If there are some remarks in the commentaries of the Talmuds that disparage non-Jews and/or Christians one must realize that they are remarks made by individuals of the time of the writing...these remarks have no sacred place in the Jewish religion. Of course, considering the way the Jewish people have been treated by non-Jews, and yes, Christians down through history, it is not surprising that there may be some disparaging remarks made about them by commentators in Jewish literature such as the Talmuds. Maybe Clif found some really radical commentator(s) in the Talmuds who took some crazy position(s) that he glomed onto to prove that the Jews are blood-thirsty satan worshipers. I don't know, but it doesn't matter...the Talmuds are not sacred texts, they are only reference pieces that give multiple often highly divergent opinions on the interpretation of the oral law. It's just like an appellate court decision where multiple judges hear a case on appeal and must interpret the law's application to the case. How many unanimous opinions are there? There is almost always a dissenting opinion or opinions. Same thing with the Talmuds...what is written in them are opinions on the law, not the law itself, and the law itself has nothing to do with what Clif High says it does. Nothing.

It is so frustrating when some highfalutin "scholar" like Clif High uses his seeming popular credibility to attack an important, very positive societal institution like Judaism with half-truths based loosely on actual texts and just plain old outright lies. All that can be done to counter this is to tell the truth. The truth always wins out.

MAX