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Posted By: Swami
Date: Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:07
www.rumormill.news/91192

In Response To: The USA Constitution: It Did What it Was Written to Do (Swami)

[Comments in brackets]

The fallacy of this article and the many, many like it is fundamental to the point of absurdity! The premise is that a piece of paper with words on it is the problem defies any form of logic. How can a piece of paper do anything?

[Swami: Although I didn't write this article, I'll play along. You missed the point of the article. The fact that human beings are the only doers, is a prerequisite to the main point of the article. The main point being, the Constitution was a scam from the beginning. Therefore, aligning your will with it, leads to supporting the scam, which would be absurd.]

Following the logic of this garbage is like assigning a personality with the ability to think, act, feel or have intent and act to a gun. The premise that a lump of metal, GUN, is responsible for shooting itself and killing some one is the height of delusion. This premise of logic is rooted in the extreme lack of personal responsibility. This kind of logic defines the SNOWFLAKE life style. Something or someone else did it or owes me, or needs to take care of me, or be responsible for me. Why?

It's actually very very simple to tear this false argument apart completely. It is not only logical but proven completely by a simple review of the foundational documents.

Logic begins with the Declaration of Independence, next the original state constitutions, next the Articles of Confederation, next the Treaty of Peace 1783 section 1 recognizing our individual sovereignty, next the Northwest Ordinance and then the Bill of Rights statement of intent. The key element is the Treaty of Peace. At Article 1 the wonderful King George released his interest in all of his proprietary properties. The people would be defined at that point in the context of subjects as proprietary property. King Georges could not enter a treaty with anyone other than another sovereign at that point. No king enters the treaty with his subjects. This is simply because there was no nation available for treaty that didn't operate under the same form of sovereign owning subjects. There was no reference point to a nation founded by its people in the law systems that King Georges was bound by. The foundational documents, and their statement referencing the authorities for their issuing, identify the good People in whose name they are created.

What this means in simple language, We the People created government's. Will someone please explain to me how any American acting under the right to free speech and thought and conscience could ever refuse to be responsible for their own creations.

[Swami: Is your name on those documents? Is my name on those documents? Do people who lived hundreds of years before either you or I, have the right to bind us in any way whatsoever?]

Rather than recognize the personal responsibility to control the acts of what we the People created, this article assigns the root problem for corrupt government to a piece of paper.
This irresponsible position is the fundamental problem that is now being exposed across the board in the operation of governments from top to bottom.

Listen to President Trump speeches, particularly his inauguration acceptance, and quite a few since then . What you'll find is he recognizes his position as a servant to the People and invites all of us to get off our butts and do something.

[Swami: Only you are assigning the root of the problem to a piece of paper, through your impatience to carefully read through the article posted. The fact that you buy into Puppet In Chief Trump's rhetoric is a bad sign. It means you don't really grasp that politicians lie for profit.]

For corruption to control the only thing that is needed is the kind of logic exposed in the article.

[Swami: For corruption to control, the only thing that is needed, is an incomplete grasp of the situation, which you are presently giving an example of.]

The confusion represented in this article as stated in his positions exposes the real reason that the great American adventure in self government is failing at the moment.

To me, the programmed irresponsibility represented in this article is good cause for the corrupt government actors at this point to issue certificates of appreciation to all those expressing this kind of logic. Be a good slave, thank you very much, and and we will continue to take care of you the way you deserve!

When it is finally recognized that a piece of piece paper is not the problem, that the men claiming to operate under it's authorities are the root of the evils now assigned to government, a real dialogue addressing solutions will open.

[Swami: Waiting on ya! In case you haven't been paying attention, those same types of people that "claim to operate under benevolence", were participating in the design of the Constitution, also known as a central government.]

The single phrase that exposes fallacy and logic represented is known to all Americans. The real issue to understand is that very few Americans pick up the phrase and act under it.
CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED is the phrase.

[Swami: You are getting warmer, but still no cigar for you. Consider what choices have been offered to you, to pick from.]

Read the foundational documents in the context of a contract between We the People on the land and discover your true powers and authorities. When people follow the kind of logic represented in this article they have doomed their children to slavery.

[Swami: Again, my name is not on any founding documents, is yours?]

Patrick Henry said it best, "give me liberty or give me death"! That my friends is the individual choice we all face. Of course, I recognize that living on your knees in slavery to another is a form of life.

Those that use that form of life are expressing their free will. I support to the death their right to express their free will. The article I'm responding to this invitation to go down the path of false logic and enslave myself to a concept that a piece of paper is more powerful a man's will.

[Swami: The writer of the article is way ahead of you in that regard. He is making the point, that you should be careful of what you align your will with.]

The time to choose is now!

As a 73 year old immigrant accepting the privilege of American citizenship and I understand my responsibilities. Thus, I wrote this piece in the hopes that it wakes some other Americans up so we can get on with the work of cleaning this mess up.

I recognized on my first trip to America in 1971 that America was unique and I need it to be part of personal liberty. We are the court of public opinion that settles all accounts because we are the creators of government and if we accept the positions we are the boss.

[Swami: Since you are older than I, I must scold you now. Shame on you for not recognizing the main point of the article posted. Shame on you for taking so many years and still not figuring out the scam. Shame on you for implying the author of this article is a snowflake. The author of the article is much more mature in his comprehension and logic about this situation than you appear to be.

You fail to see the main point of the article, which is, a centralized government cannot work for the benefit of the population that it was thrust upon, without consent, let alone being inhabited by control-freaks and financial-junkies, whom cannot be held inline by a piece of paper, because it was designed to dominate the population which swallowed it at the time it was introduced. Which leaves armed revolt as the logical reaction to such a situation. Or starve the beast. If people want to starve the beast, then they should educate their fellow human beings as to the game afoot, in order to prevent others from getting fooled into supporting a construct that is designed to parasite off of people.

Also, keep in mind, that just because no other country came as close to having the "joy" of such a governmental construct, that pretends to honor individual sovereignty, does not make it any better.

So, the article posted and your response, imply its time to storm the castle, grab your pitchfork, and make a run at it! What? Come on now, you and I both know what needs to be done. So why are you wasting time talking to me, when you could be storming DC to restore the behavior of government, that all the snowflakes have been procrastinating about?

I'm teasing you. We both know that it is the lack of courage throughout the years, that has allowed the corruption to grow. No document can protect anyone. It is human beings that protect themselves and their loved ones. It always has been. Which is why governments are useless.

Its also financial manipulations over time, that make it more difficult for the individual to not only stand their ground, but thrive. It certainly makes it difficult to keep politicians honest when someone with an unlimited source of money, can buy them off. Of course it is also the responsibility of the population to not buy into the lies, that the politicians know they want to hear. Of course when those lies are not bought into, then who rectifies the problem of dishonest politicians? The people awake and aware at the time that situation occurs.

Now, between you (older) and I (younger), who is more responsible for the present situation? Who has been around longer? Who has had more time to observe what was going down, and therefore had more time to do something to correct it?]



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