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No Matter Where You Go, There You Are

Posted By: Swami
Date: Tuesday, 13-Sep-2016 00:38:27
www.rumormill.news/56539

In Response To: seek pleasure - avoid pain: THAT'S THE PROGRAM (Nemesis)

: "DESIRE" ...motivates will... "RELEASE OF
: TENSION" is also a desire (or want). You have made the
: case for programed-will (will is motivated by desire ).

: I could go on disproving your claims, but in each case they
: demonstrate programed-will.

Pleasure or Pain is not the intent of the desire. Expression of idea is the intent of desire. This is the part where you say that will has been programmed to express desire. Which is another attempt to say that an individual entity does not have control over its life, because it is programmed. So, following that logic, the next question to ask is: What is the point of life, if you are not free to do as you please? If everything about your existence is already set out for you, what's the point?

Main Entry: program
Function: noun
Etymology: French programme agenda, public notice, from Greek programma, from prographein to write before, from pro- before + graphein to write — more at CARVE
Date: 1633

1 [Late Latin programma, from Greek] : a public notice
2 a : a brief usually printed outline of the order to be followed, of the features to be presented, and the persons participating (as in a public performance) b : the performance of a program; especially : a performance broadcast on radio or television
3 : a plan or system under which action may be taken toward a goal
4 : CURRICULUM
5 : PROSPECTUS, SYLLABUS
6 a : a plan for the programming of a mechanism (as a computer) b : a sequence of coded instructions that can be inserted into a mechanism (as a computer) c : a sequence of coded instructions (as genes or behavioral responses) that is part of an organism

": Is it not true that the human-will seeks to please itself,
: that it seeks happiness, joy and pleasure. Is this not a
: program? "

Is it? Human-will seeks many things, some of which is not pleasurable. I already stated this. You glossed over it.

Is your life a pre-planned event? If so, then why bother raising this discussion, repeatedly? You won't make a difference, if everything is programmed already. Its all planned, right?

Can a program/performance be anything other than an effect? If desire precedes and will leads to a performance of an act, then a performance is not preceding the will. If desire changes, was that also planned/programmed? If one desires/wills/acts to experience pain, does that still fit the "program"?

: Humans seek pleasure, joy, peace, happiness, calm, peace, war,
: just being, etc.. etc.. etc.. and they try to avoid pain
: (that which they consider painful).

: Is it really so difficult to accept that the word FREE and
: WILL should not be riding the same train?

Choice is always available, even after inertia/momentum is in play. Everything is changeable. "Free" implies changeable. This world is an illusion of motion, by desire of mind. Motion by its very nature is constantly changing. If you want to label something as a program, then it should be the present physical construct. Not the will of the rider.

: Every choice humans make have a reason...and the REASON is THE
: PROGRAM...and the PROGRAM is: Seek pleasure - avoid pain.

: It is so obviously self-evident, since everyone does it.

Every reason is based upon the context within which the choice is made. If we are talking about the previous choices that have resulted in specific physical conditions, then you are saying, the program is the previous choices. This is the same as saying the program is set by choice, or will. If the program is set by will, then the will is not programmed, it is the programmer.

The reason is desire. Desire is not a program. Desire is of the Mind. The mind is eternal, the physical world is an illusion of motion, powered by the desire of mind. The Will is the mind navigating within the previously created construct.



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Articles In This Thread

HUMANS HAVE PROGRAMMED-WILL
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 08:13:56
Free-Will Is Alive!! ..but don't be Scared
Swami -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 14:24:48
seek pleasure - avoid pain: THAT'S THE PROGRAM
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 18:00:18
EMAIL: "Hmmmm."
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 21:49:26
No Matter Where You Go, There You Are
Swami -- Tuesday, 13-Sep-2016 00:38:27
What a beautiful day
Nemesis -- Tuesday, 13-Sep-2016 08:37:18
Re: What a beautiful day
Swami -- Tuesday, 13-Sep-2016 13:08:56
"The Devil Made Me Do It" Does Not Work In Life, In Marriage, In Court, Or Even In One's Own Mind...Nor Will It Ever..
Watchman -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 19:43:14
Bedeviled
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 21:53:02
email: You are riding the same horse (to death)
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 21:46:50
EMAIL: "And so it was."
Nemesis -- Monday, 12-Sep-2016 23:42:11

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