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A Reply to Stewart Rhode's Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy From Judge Anna

Posted By: Lion
Date: Thursday, 7-Jan-2016 17:46:21
www.rumormill.news/36861

In Response To: Stewart Rhodes: A Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy (Basil)

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Thursday, January 7, 2016

A Reply to Stewart Rhode's Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy From Judge Anna

You can see Stewart Rhodes recommended exit strategy at this link:

https://www.oathkeepers.org/a-recommended-honorable-exit-strategy-for-ammon-bundy/

By Anna Von Reitz January 7th 2016

This is certainly a principled argument that speaks well of Stewart Rhodes and his approach to self-government at the local level.

In our system of things, the true power stays with the individual who delegates to the county who delegates to the state who delegates to the federal government.

Not the other way around.

It is true that the local people have got to have the cajones to take a stand and until they do, you can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink.

You can prove that their property rights are being violated by thugs----commercial mercenaries acting under color of law----and you can offer to stand with them, but until they find the courage and conviction to free themselves, nobody else can do that for them.

All that is perfectly true.

However, there is a bone to pick with the Oathkeepers as an organization and with Stewart Rhodes; I have already picked it once and I shall pick it again.

It does not remain for any one small group of people to determine whether our Constitution and our Law of the Land is respected or not.

That kind of thinking leads to "sanctuary cities" and armed bands of thugs holding mountain passes and robbing travelers while claiming that is okay because that is the "law" of Harney County.

Counties do not have the power to declare their own laws about everything. One of the things they do not have power to self-declare is to declare our national Organic Laws void in Harney County just because the people are too ignorant or too scared to stand up for them.

And anyone who is an Oathkeeper, including the leader of the Oathkeepers, should know that.

We are absolutely required to uphold our Organic Laws or our nation will be fractured like a crystal vase on a tile floor, cut up piecemeal and carted away. Divide and conquer and ignorance and wrong-thinking will set in and Americans will be reduced to arguing among themselves as we have argued for too many years already,

While we are wondering whether we have the right to assert jurisdiction over the land in Harney County when it is violated by federal agencies, those agencies given an inch will take ten miles, and take our seeming complacency as license to take more.

When it comes to the Federales overreaching on any parcel of land anywhere in America,, it is a matter impacting all Americans from Florida to---- dare I say it? ----Alaska.

The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution for the united States of America are Organic Laws of the entire nation.

We are all required to uphold them at all times and everywhere.

That includes Harney County.

When the "federal agencies" overreach themselves, it is our right AND our responsibility to oppose them in no uncertain terms.

If the people of Harney County fail that sacred duty, the rest of us must not.

I never advocate bloodshed and I would not advocate that any of these brave men on either side of the firing line sacrifice their lives over a "misunderstanding".

The fact is that the "Federal Government" ---including its for-hire corporate subcontractor agencies--- has no right to claim any land within the borders of the organic states and never has had.

The fact that we have allowed this to go on in the western states for over a hundred years is a national scandal of mismanagement, misrepresentation, and malfeasance.

The resolution of the political status of these states and the formal release of their property is long, long overdue.

The Federales have mistaken our long-suffering of the matter as acquiescence.

We allowed the Federales to arbitrarily declare "National Parks" because we thought it was good to set aside glorious places for future generations--- and it is; unfortunately, there is absolutely no lawful basis for it.

We allowed the Federales to build massive Hydropower projects like the Hoover Dam, because we agreed that we needed electrical power; unfortunately, there is precious little excuse for that, either.

These and other acts have served over time to blur the hard line between where "Federal" duties and prerogatives begin and end, and have allowed a constant, slow, but increasingly terrifying usurpation of common sense and an equally profound overreach of government at all levels against the private and public property rights of the people all across the nation.

It has gotten to the point where the Federales "assume" that they have rights that they don't have, that they have property interests that don't belong to them, and that they don't have to obey the Public Law or the Organic Law, either.

We've let them get away with it so long that three generations have grown up, lived and died, since they were reminded forcefully of who they are and who we are.

Well, folks, it is time.

The good people of Harney County are sitting on a gold mine that has absolutely nothing to do with migratory bird habitat.

They are sitting on a vast fortune of minerals and water that the Federales want.

So they are moving in like the thugs they have become with a veritable army of hired commercial mercenaries masquerading as "FBI" agents long after the FBI has ceased to be a lawful unit of our government--

- but still "trading" upon our images of J.Edgar Hoover nonetheless--

-- and they are bullying and proposing to steal land from innocent people and to jail them when they resist.

Let it be noted that the "crime" the Hammonds are accused of--- setting a backfire that damaged some property--

- is routinely excused when any "agency" of the government does the same thing.

Now, doesn't it seem a little bit crazy that the owners of the land are charged with a "crime" and jailed when their hired help does the same thing and skates away scott clean?

Wake up, Stewart Rhodes! Wake up Harney County! Daylight in the swamps!

We've notified the House Oversight Subcommittee--

- the derelicts responsible for holding purse-strings over out of control "federal agencies"--

- that they are liable for a commercial obligation lien of 200 billion ounces of fine silver per American killed by any "federal personnel" and we have the means at our disposal to make that lien stick like iron.

So, boys, the "odds" are not really that hard to take.

The first FBI agent that fires a shot and kills an American is going to be fried back home and not in butter.

This whole land and resource grab by the BLM is about money and the "Federal Corporation" is going to take it in the shorts if they foment any range wars in Harney County.

They will also be facing international war crimes charges to use the phrase from the Nuremburg Trials --

--for "criminal aggression".

Our Sheriffs are beginning to wake up.

It's only a matter of time before the rest of the "law enforcement" agencies jerk awake--

-- and then the hunters will become the hunted, and the Bounty Hunter provisions of the vaunted 14th Amendment will spring to life.

Read it, Federales, and read it well.

These are your rules, not ours, and they are still in effect.

Just today I had a jackdaw from the passport agency lecture me about the 14th Amendment and I had to tell him that the 14th Amendment never applied to any American, ever.

And still doesn't.

But my point here tonight to all of you who can read, is that the 14th Amendment DOES apply to all federal employees, including agency subcontractors.

Judge Anna Maria Riezinger

Source:

http://tinyurl.com/hyplx32

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: https://www.oathkeepers.org/a-recommended-honorable-exit-strategy-for-ammon-bundy/

: _____________________________

: Stewart Rhodes: A Recommended Honorable
: Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy

: Ammon,

: I believe you know that I respect you as a man of great,
: inspirational courage and conviction. And likewise for your
: brothers. It was your inspiring courage and conviction at
: your Bundy family ranch in Nevada that caused me, Oath
: Keepers as an organization, and many others to come from
: all over the nation, rifles in hand, to protect your family
: and back you up, shoulder-to-shoulder as you took a strong
: stand for your rights and for the Constitution. It was a
: profound honor to do so, and it was a stand that will go
: down in history.

: However, as you know, I oppose what you have chosen to do by
: occupying the wildlife preserve there in Oregon,
: specifically because it is not being done with the consent
: of the locals or at their request, without the request of
: the Hammond's, and without even their knowledge of what you
: were going to do, until you did it, and because it is not
: in direct defense of anyone. The right way to go would have
: been to respect the right of the locals on the Committee of
: Safety to call the shots, decide what needs to be done, and
: to actually let them be in charge of all outside
: volunteers, including you. You can certainly act as an
: adviser and instructor, giving input on what you think they
: should do.

: And frankly, what they should do is simply going out, now, and
: use the land to ranch, log, mine, farm, etc, with our
: protection. You can bet that if they did chose to do so,
: Oath Keepers, the Oregon III%, Idaho III%, Pacific Patriot
: Network, Bearded Bastards, and other hard-core patriots
: would have saddled up and rode, with distinct pleasure and
: joy in our warrior hearts, to protect the people as they
: nullified, used "civil-disobedience" and simply
: lived as free American westerners, ranching, farming,
: logging, and just living as if he BLM did not exist. And we
: can provide direct, physical assistance and protection to
: back them up as they take such a stand.
: But none of us have the right to make their decisions for
: them. They need to have the stones to stand up, and if they
: do, we will stand with them. But they MUST be in charge.
: They MUST make that decision for themselves (and when they
: do, then we back them up 100% and then some!). It is a
: fundamental principle of self-government, the consent of
: the governed, and self-determination that it is the people
: of Harney County who must make the momentous, critical
: decision to stand. In fact, you said so yourself, during
: your recent town hall meeting on December 15, 2015, where
: you helped locals form the Harney County Committee of
: Safety. You said: We have people across the United States
: that will stand with you, I've already explained that. I'm
: confident. But the thing is, it's not necessarily right,
: for us, or for the people, to come in here and to make a
: stand without the people forming and being in control of
: it. That's what this Committee of Safety is. It is where
: the people elect this Committee and this Committee is in
: charge of those that will come in and assist throughout
: this country, in defending the rights of this people and
: enforcing the Constitution. And, I'm not going to dance
: around what we're talking about here. We're talking about
: removing these unconstitutional agencies from Harney
: County. And bringing the people back up to go ranching,
: logging, or whatever else. But the people have to - you,
: you have to exhibit enough organization to form these
: committees of safety so that you can charge, and be in
: charge of the militia. That's what it comes down to. That
: is the proper way in which this is supposed to happen
: (emphasis added).

: I agree completely with your above quoted statement to the
: Harney County Committee of Safety. The people of Harney
: County do have the absolute right to govern themselves, and
: to be in charge of, and in control over, whatever is done
: to secure their rights in their county and state, and they
: have the right to be in charge of any volunteers from
: elsewhere who come in to help. That truly is "the
: proper way in which this is supposed to happen." But
: unfortunately, you did not respect that right. Apparently,
: you did not really trust the people of Harney County to
: take a hard stand and were not confident that they would do
: so. And while you told the locals that they would be in
: charge and control of their own destiny, you had evidently
: already planned out this armed takeover of the federal
: facility at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge and were already
: staging your outsider men and supplies in the area to do
: it. All of this was done without even the knowledge, let
: alone the consent, of that local Committee of Safety. The
: Harney County Committee of Safety is in now charge of jack
: squat. And that is what you now have the chance to correct,
: with honor and integrity.

: I propose that you return to and adhere to your own stated
: principles of respecting the right of the people to
: self-determination, self-government, and their right to
: stand up, on their own two feet, with our support and
: protection. Therefore, you need to submit yourself to the
: authority of the Committee of Safety and the people of
: Harney County at large, and let them know, in no uncertain
: terms, that they are now in charge, and you will comply
: with whatever they decide must be done, whether you agree
: with it or not. Even if you think the people there are not
: yet ready to stand, you cannot graft on a pair of balls
: onto a gelding. The people must grow a pair themselves, and
: it must be their decision to stand, and meanwhile you must
: respect their will and do what they determine is best. You
: can advise, suggest, and assist, but you cannot decide for
: them.

: So throw your sword at their feet, and pledge and swear that
: you will abide by their decision, whatever it is, and
: defend them in doing whatever they decide is best, so long
: as it is ethical, moral, and constitutional. But it must be
: there decision, not yours.

: That is the honorable, ethical, moral way to go. That is an
: honorable exit plan.

: I recommend you take it, and by doing so you will have retaken
: the moral high ground. And then we can all pledge to
: protect any rancher, logger, farmer, miner, etc. in Harney
: County who has the physical and moral courage to take a
: stand, and simply act as their forefathers acted, as free
: Americans on the land, and we will protect them with our
: lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Let that be our
: standing offer to any of the people of Harney County who
: will take a stand. Let that be our oath, and when they
: stand, we will be honor-bound to stand with them. And we
: will.

: And when that happens, we will be acting with honor, and it
: will be the Feds who will have the choice of honoring their
: oaths by standing down, or violating their oaths by
: agressing against the people, and history will reflect who
: had the moral high ground and acted only in defense of
: human decency, liberty, and the Constitution.

: That is the honorable path here. Please take it.

: For the Republic,
: Stewart Rhodes
: Founder and President of Oath Keepers



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A Reply to Stewart Rhode's Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy From Judge Anna
Lion -- Thursday, 7-Jan-2016 17:46:21
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