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I think the idea that freedom and liberty are not the same is a distinction without an everyday useful difference.
Posted By: hobie Date: Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:46
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In Response To: To: For those who don't know. Moose in the wild have “FREEDOM”. Cattle inside the fence have “LIBERTY”. ARE THEY THE SAME??? *NM* (sonofthewind)
Hi, sonofthewind -
I think this is much ado about functionally nothing.
I think the core issue has to do with functional free will. I say 'functional' free will because I know some have argued that influences of society, particularly those meted out to one during his or her youngest years, work to shape and restrict one's use of free will.
It's not long before we run into a seeming quandary like this one: What's the state of things if one exercises his or her freedom and free will to choose to be part of a community where agreed-upon rules put limits on that freedom? Does such a one have freedom or only liberty? Are there not useful advantages to enjoying liberty in combination and agreement with others, advantages that are absent outside of community?
Does a moose in the wild have free will?
Can a man or woman be totally free in the wild?
Et cetera. :) I think the chief issue would be whether the reining-in of one's freedom is freely chosen or is being imposed.
--hobie
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- To: For those who don't know. Moose in the wild have “FREEDOM”. Cattle inside the fence have “LIBERTY”. ARE THEY THE SAME??? *NM*
sonofthewind -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:47
- Reader: "And you, SOW, believe ..."
hobie -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:46
- I think the idea that freedom and liberty are not the same is a distinction without an everyday useful difference.
hobie -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:46
- Re:Please readers! Why are you arguing to SOW? Argue with the dictionary DEFINITIONS...then believe WHATEVER you want to believe! *NM*
sonofthewind -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:46
- Duh! The dictionary isn't presenting this nonsense...SOW is and for what purpose might I ask?? *NM*
HotCoffee -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:46
- CGI's Mike: Trump was -permitted- to occupy office of president
RumorMail -- Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 07:27:47
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