Jim Stone, Freelance Journalist

TOP POSTED: Ukra(i)nian plane definitely shot down

It was not mechanical failure and it was not a bomb on board. This picture proves it and there are many others that show the same thing, holes like this were all over the aircraft which means it was either shot to pieces or nailed by a missile:

Pictures this clear have been censored. I did not want to put this one up but they all got wiped and this is the only clear one left:

The puncture holes on this section of wing prove either a missile or gunfire took this plane down. THE OPPOSITE WING HAS THE SAME TYPE OF HOLES IN A PRESS TV PHOTO ALSO. That proves there's no way an engine failure did this, you can't have holes in both wings plus the fuselage from an engine failure, that's designed to not throw shrapnel at all. TWA 800, a known missile shoot down, had the same type of holes in it. No failure on the plane, even a modern day engine explosion, will do this. No matter what the story is, this plane was shot down. CASE CLOSED. updates below.

There are two possibilities with this shoot down: Iran made a mistake, or a stealth aircraft took it out, and Iran can't yet mentally cope with the idea of having an American stealth aircraft operate right over one of their airports without a peep from their radar.

Trump's speech:

No war, no mention of Ukraine jet shoot down (that's odd) and he looked stressed out. The generals were not happy. I think he found out the U.S. shot down the Ukranian jet and was basically flipping out inside while reading a teleprompter and saying no war, only sanctions, and repeating tired rhetoric while the generals wanted a totally different speech but could not force him to deliver it. IF it is determined the U.S. shot down that plane, then what? If Iran shot it down, you'd think that would get blasted beyond the horizon instantly by those who want war on Iran, but mum's the word, why?.

After that shoot down, I am really beginning to think ALL, and I mean ALL Iran has is a massive missile force that can wipe out Israel. That is ALL. They can't detect crap, have a navy that's suitable for law enforcement, have no meaningful air force or army, but they have a pile of super sized long range missiles. And they don't want their public to know just how weak certain parts of their military are so they are calling it a crash.

There should be dash cam footage posted by now proving Iran shot the Ukra(i)nian jet down if Iran did it

Therefore, 80+ percent chance it was shot down from above by a stealth aircraft