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Reader Charles, Response to Joe

Posted By: hobie
Date: Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:54
www.rumormill.news/120975

In Response To: Reader: 'My "legal" relationship with government seems to be/ is all the paper work with "the name" on it, that exists on the public record' (hobie)

(Thanks, C. :)

Reader Charles writes:

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Thank you for your engagement. Well done.
Response in numbered order to your points.
Thank you Hobie and RMN.

1. All legal relationships have a starting place.

Where did government start on the land of America that you could be part of?

The Declaration in its last paragraph cites conclusively who is party to the contract making the Declaration. “ …by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare…“

If the Declaration is not a contract between the good People declaring individual liberty from their owner King George what is it?

That statement is an agency representing what, and who?

Is that you, now, today?

If not why not?

1a. Are all those ‘public records’ yours or do they belong as property to someone or some other contract entity as a contract right?

If you are not the owner of a property, you liberty, can you transfer ownership or use?

If you are the owner and now this moment claim ownership transferred do you have an enforceable position?

If you do not define who you are and what your relationships are will some one do it for you?

Did you pay a fee of some sort for the service of making the public record? And, is that a contract?

2. Agreed all public records you participated in creating are public.

So, the question becomes where did the ‘public’ begin?

Perhaps the release, self executed, from ownership of a King? Recognized by a release document signed by the King ratifying the original Declaration perhaps?

The ultimate question is does the present Queen have a position in the BAR that operates our law administration, and if so is that an ownership position?

3. I assume that is your birth record. If so, is that the recognition document that you have arrived somewhere under specific legal relations? Who determines the effect of those records?

Again, if so, are you required to identify those legal relationships yourself or can some one do that for you?

4. If you are a Beneficiary do you have a certificate of beneficial interest? Or, is that assumption based on acts creating a resulting trust?

In either situation is it necessary to clarify positions in order to have authority to execute on positions?

Do you ‘trust’ a government systemite to administer your beneficial positions or could that act be viewed as abandonment?

Is assumption an act of a bandonment?

Perhaps the Depositing Creditor Monograph will help.

5. AGREED!
However, it appears to me that if I do not clarify and perfect my own positions I open the door for someone else to act for me.

I was born contrary and always seek my own counsel first. In short no one speaks for me until I SAY so.

If I did not say so and I am held to account for some one else’s acts for me is that a badge of slavery? If not why not?

6. Agreed, master or servant is determined by executed public record.

I can not find the estate documents in public record. What I do find is a series of compounding and accumulating assumptions that cause action based on determinations I never made. I did not find my assignment to government to bind me to its actions.

I cannot find the foreign instrumentality. What I did find is a series of contracts based on the incorporation of DC as the entity contracting with the States.

I could not find the authority for Congress to create a corporation. I found the statute creating the FED CORP. Yet the required element of Congress acting in necessity to create needful laws to create corporations is not present.

Further I could find no statute authorizing the Congress to contract with either the States or the good People in any manner particularly through agency under the incorporation of DC.
Please assist me in finding these public records.

My position is boni fide public records with an official identified custodian control when the required signatures of the parties principal are present.

Thank you Joe for asking for clarity. Your statements helped be to be more clear in my own mind.

More open dialogue requested.

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Articles In This Thread

Reader Charles Miller: "CLARIFYING QUESTIONS"
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:54
Reader JT: " I am the government of my own kingdom, a sovereign."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:54
Reader: 'My "legal" relationship with government seems to be/ is all the paper work with "the name" on it, that exists on the public record'
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:55
Reader Charles, Response to Joe
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:54
Reader joe a: "thanks for more clarity charlie..more banter: ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:55
Reader Scuba: "You are making a number of presumptions which are false."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:51:55

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