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"...hate is natural..."? I think not...

Posted By: hobie
Date: Tuesday, 10-Apr-2001 16:03:22
www.rumormill.news/8406

: "I'm laughing at the 'superior intellect.'" Yes, and
: the good of the one--me--outweighs the good of all of you
: a**hole muppets. Don't doubt it. And screw diversity, and
: hate is natural and healthy, and free trade sucks, and
: prejudice is inborn and does not have to be taught, and
: interdependence is stupid and is slavery, and world peace
: is Satan's religion, and race mixing is stupid and
: destructive, and democracy these days is a code word for
: communism, and we want a republic not an empire.

Eh, but enough about you. What do you think about me? :)

I agree with several points in that putrescent paragraph - but I think I have to pick a bone with you about the "hate is natural" notion. Where are you coming up with that? Here's how it looks to me:

- God is love.
- Hate is where love is blocked - but no, I'm not suggesting you should be "lovey-dovey" with every bonehead that passes by - that's not love; love is not "that sticky syrup that human beings sometimes say they fall into". Rather, God is love, and God ain't no sticky syrup.
- Hate BINDS YOU TO THE THING HATED, just as surely as if you were "in love" with that thing.
- Hate NOURISHES AND SUPPORTS THE THING HATED.
- Hate GIVES THE HATED THING POWER OVER YOU.
- Hate NARROWS YOUR VISION, FIXATES IT UPON THE HATED THING - TURNING IT INTO YOUR 'GOD' IN THAT SENSE, THE THING YOU CHOOSE TO ORIENT TO (negatively) IN YOUR LIVING.

While you're interpreting scripture for us, work with this one:

"I lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help."

What the heck does that mean? Well, to lift up your eyes to a higher place, ya gotta un-fixate 'em from the lower stuff that's whirling around in the realm of creation - you can't focus on both at the same time, can't "serve two masters", one of 'em God and the other one "whatever I see in the world that I hate today".

Try this one:

"I turned and saw the voice that spoke with me."

Why'd he have to turn first? So he'd be aligning with, giving his responsive attention to, the Creator, not the creation.

You sound like you intend to make sure you're one a**hole that survives whatever may be coming. That'll be a neat trick - ponder these words:

"Lo, that which I feared has come upon me!"

That's ol' Job, there; you remember how much fun he had. :) I think he was stating a clue, a principle, for us, which we could restate this way:

"That which I nourish with fear shall increase in my experience."

I note that hate and fear are very close cousins.

But finally there's this:

"Perfect love casts out fear."

I'm not sure many, if any, human beings have the authority in living to claim to know what "perfect love" is - but I think it would necessarily involve love of God, don't you? That leaves us with a corollary: "If fear is present and can control, to that degree 'perfect love' is not yet present."

This begins to cast the "love thine enemies" idea in a whole new light - it isn't, "Pretend to like them" and become like as unto a cosmic doormat for them. :)

Rather, it's "Lift up your eyes unto the hills; turn and see the voice that speaks with you; love the lord they God with all - and then, as perfect love casts out fear, thou shalt experience thine enemies from a whole new place, one that cannot be imagined while hate and fear still control - and THEN watch and see what the lord, now able to operate through you, may do to transform the entire circumstance, because you live."

It's "Glory to God in the highest" - and _then_ - "Peace on earth, good will toward men." Not "an imposed peace" - that's just Balkanization again, isn't it? - but the actuality of peace, which is a positive spirit related to love, just as war is the absence of peace, related to the blocking of love we call 'hate'.

There is no solution to the world's problems in using the methods and techniques that generated the world's problems. We don't need "more money thrown at the problem", or "one more war that will finally settle the question of who's right", or "just one more scientific breakthrough to fix the problems caused by the earlier scientific breathroughs". :) It's all been tried before, generation after generation.

If there's gonna be anything _new_, we're gonna have to try what hasn't really been tried before - accept and play our uniquely differentiated roles in God's movie, rather than accept and play any of the roles the NWO crew is casting for their movie.

Kind of amazing what emotions and conversations take place during Easter Week, isn't it? :) Human beings are connected, whether we like it or not; and in this particular week, many human beings are "more emotional" than usual, all over the world.

A little extra calm, caring, and reasonableness this week is not a bad idea.



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