: That's a really interesting book list from Hidden Mysteries
: Books that Jocelyn has posted, and it's a great free Ad,
: because she also runs the company.

Yes, that's true - but the point was David's sources. He has plenty of them. And they're quite reputable, not airy-fairy, I might add.

: She also happens to be the web master for davidicke.com, so
: she knows what she's talking about.

And - apparently you don't read - I am NOT David's webmaster - My husband is. I have nothing to do with that site. I run Hidden Mysteries. My husband does the webmastering and we don't step on each other's toes.

: A while back Ivan Fraser, who formerly supplied Icke with
: information and perspectives, was thrown off David's web
: site forum; the web site forum of the man billed as

: "the most controversial speaker in the world."
: Now I didn't visit the forum but Ivan tells me he began to
: openly question many of Icke's assertions. He also tells me
: that shortly prior to being barred Jocelyn Savage called
: for him to be ...HANGED!!!

That is a ridiculous thing to say and anybody that knows me - or LIVED through Ivan on the forum KNOWS that a ridiculous statement.

That is about what I would expect of Ivan - he's another one that has proven himself capable of hearsay and unfounded allegations. So - that kind of allegation is about par for his tiny little course.

Now... Rixon - instead of implicating youself in false slander by repeating hearsay, why don't you ask Ivan if he could POSSIBLY prove such an outlandish statement as that.

Now... how about this for an interesting twist to the insanity of that allegation. Ivan signed his last couple of letters to me "Love, Ivan".

Go figure.

: Now calling someone a Dummy is one thing. But to loudly and
: publicly call for somebody's execution is another matter
: entirely. After all it might affect profits.

Better prove that one, Rixon, before you start bashing MY character. So why don't you stop name calling and start producing facts.

You're letting yourself be a mouthpiece for someone that apparently not telling you the truth on things.

Now... what was that about control....? SURELY you DO have SELF-control, don't you Rixon?

: As I've said before: there is more going on behind Icke's
: public image than is apparent.

No - there really isn't - other then we've let ourselves get sucked into this ugly little conflict which has absolutely NO merrit and is nothing but a time waster.

And Novaliz - NO ! DAVID IS PROBALBY NOT GOING TO ANSWER YOU. Why would he BOTHER? WHY would he dignify all that stuff with answers to you???

And as for going crying to David - to send all those emails to HIM to save your butt after YOU created the problem in the first place - then get all ugly on this forum because the webmaster got tired of having his box filled up with a bunch of ...

What on EARTH do you expect, look for, hope for -- or for that matter work for????

I'm out of here. Enough is enough.

Oh - and Rixon - as far as that comment about the free ad...? You said yourself how many hits David's site is getting. Now look at the number of views on that message that had my "ad".

If my whole purpose was a free ad, I CERTAINLY could have spent my time a little more profitably over there with the more Icke-friendly folks, wouldn't you say???

I'm done here - and, I would imagine so is everyone from this Icke support team. So you all will have to carry on this without us.

We're busy WORKING. Try it sometime.