Dear David,

My point on my third post was a very important one, based on your account of what you termed the 'Three Voices' (the article is on the first page on the site, entitled 'David Icke's Journey'). If, as I believed you were arguing, there are strong powers out to deceive men, how is it that the being which inspired you is somehow entirely trustworthy and cannot be doubted with regard to its intentions? Is it simply because, as I detailed, its words flatter you or play up your role in the world? Is it because its prophecies prove accurate? Does not showing a person the future impinge on that person's freedom? The very freedom we both claim to be fighting for.

Is it even possible that mind control techniques have been developed to create the experiences you had?

Do you not consider it possible that this being is part of the conspiracy? Is it not possible that you have been manipulated and that the powers which have set you up through such a manipulation have the intention of using you to discredit both what may be termed the 'conspiracy community' and what may be termed Christian esotericism and Rosicrucianism, that path which stands in genuine opposition to the hidden and corrupt path of the Jesuits? How would you compare yourself to a man such as Rudolf Steiner, whose name is hidden by history, and by history I mean the Jesuits and the Satanic circles, despite his many fruitful initiatives in the world?

Are you setting yourself up as a teacher, rather than just an exposer of corruption in the world? Am I to take you teachings seriously or not? I had the impression that people were.

The concentration on my first post regarding symbolism seems to be taking precedence over my latest post regarding the sources of your inspiration, but let me deal with this seeing as this is what your reply seems to refer to.

If you take symbolism so flippantly, how can I trust the supposed interpretations of symbolism on your web site. Through your response I think you are further discrediting what may be termed the 'conspiracy community' and thus further pleasing those who have apparantly set you up. I should repeat at this point, that I believe that you are totally genuine and not deliberately deceiving people. If I take your flippant post seriously, by analogy, your whole section on symbolism on the website could simply be 'coincidences', people reading their own symbolism into perfectly innocent symbols. How is anyone to rely upon these exposures, when the symbolism of your own website is open to such a negative interpretation? Again it seems to me that your own 'hidden symbolism', which may be complete nonsense, has allowed someone such as myself to discredit your website. Why do you allow yourself to be open to such an attack? Is it to discredit, by association, other people in the 'conspiracy community' and others exposing the truth - good, brave men and women such as Sherman Skolnick, Robert Fisk, John Pilger, Simon Regan, Rayelan? For those who feared that I started a general campaign against other conspiracy theorists, this was never my intention. You encourage people to send articles on hidden symbolism to your website, so I hereby give you my permission for you to post my article in your section.

Do you simply regard yourself as beyond reproach? Your followers, for which you are of course not accountable, seem to deem anyone who disagrees with them either a lizard in disguise (ie. of the reptilian bloodline) or an agent of the Security Services. Do you approve of this? To my mind it seems to be the same mind set by which the Christian deems any opponent an 'heretic' or of not being in the Bible.

You may laugh regarding me, with you I do not know whether to laugh or cry!

Is this your standard response to to someone who challenges you - to avoid a specific reply in favour of a frivolous piece with the apparant intention to belittle the person who dares challenge your authority. On this Forum, I think I am not out of line in saying, it is preferable for people to debate the material in hand, not to belittle it, as that gets us nowhere.

As for a few people being able to control the world, I agree. My posts get an average of about 350 'hits', your website claims to receive 500,000 hits a week. 'It's a piece of cake'? You said it.

PS - Incidentally do you intentionally play 'good guy' to Laurence Savage's 'bad guy' (ask Laurence if you are not sure what I am talking about and I hope that you do have to ask him). Laurence may or may not have forbidden me communicating to anyone any replies which he may or may not have sent me. Draw your own conclusions friends! David, can you assure me that I am free to speak my mind without the threat of legal action?

For those new to the thread my relevant posts are entitled 'The Hidden Symbolism of David Icke?', 'David Icke as Victim and a Personal Plea' (in hindsight 'David Icke as Victim' does appear a touch pretentious on my part) and 'The Hidden Inspiration behind David Icke'. The third one, the one which David has not yet addressed is, in my opinion, the most significant.

The article 'David Icke's Journey' can be found here: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/about.html