If people can read, then it is very evident that you attacked me and not the issues. The apology is due me, not them. It's obvious you are so compelled to show your self righteous indignation, when you have no right to he indignant.

If you go through your previous post I responded to, I always said according to my professional opinion, "apparently" due to your angry behavior which you displayed in your post of which I have all copies. Anything I write, I copy, with my CDRW to disc in seconds. In my profession we document everything, and keep all records. It's just part of my training.

I never said I would have you arrested, again you can't get your facts straight; go back and read what I wrote. Should I wish to pursue you, it would be a civil matter, unless you give me reason to make it a criminal matter.

You did send me hate email which I saved, and that is not slanderous to say, or illegal to do. I have proof which is the truth, and truth is a defense. Would you prefer I post them, and show people how you lie?

I am not focusing on myself as the victim, but defending myself against your unjust allegations. I do not attack anyone unless attacked, and again to defend myself; and plan always to do so.

According to what you said in your post, you hated your family who were Catholic, because they force you into their faith, and that made you hate all Catholics. That's when I told you were a big boy now, grow up and get a life.

You are the one who accused me of not "owning up to my post." I provided you proof of what I heard which dispelled your accusation of a bad post. So why now suddenly I do I not have "nothing to prove" to you? Make up your mind. Is that a dichotomy or what? Apparently, you don't like to be proved wrong even when I furnished the proof.

You are a bully, and have attacked others also, but I won't let you or anyone get by with it, ever--it's abusive, and I do not take abuse from anyone. It's called being assertive, and a sign of good mental health.

By the way, I really like Mr. Fuller, and Winter, they are great; and always a joy to read. They are articulate, suscinct, easy to follow, speak in English without all that superficial, esoteric psycho-babble. Mr. Fuller even said, "Write for an eigth grader, and everyone will understand."

If you don't like my post don't read them. You said, "I wish you no harm." If you really mean it, just leave me alone.

Thank you!

: (First of all, I'd like to apologize to my fellow posters. But
: sometimes the call simply cannot be ignored.)
: Newshound,
: Amazing! I just read about this kind of attack yesterday: You
: are the person who, when you cannot win your point, attack
: the writer in order to focus the attention on yourself as
: the victim.

: First of all, you are making slanderous statements. I have
: NEVER written to you in my life and have no reason to. I do
: not even know your address, and after this, certainly do
: not ever care to. May I ask why you would think youself so
: important to me?

: Secondly, you are going to have me arrested because I had an
: opinion on RMN? Wow. I must be good!

: 3rd, if Rayelan had something to say to me, I cannot imagine
: her hiding behind you. She strikes me as the type that
: would just say it. (I noticed you said this same thing to
: another poster the other day.)

: And fourth, I care not one whit What you are. I come from a
: whole family of Catholics and love them all. I simply think
: that if people are going to post, they must stand behind
: what they post: either because it is true or because it
: isn't, but in any case, they must be willing to say:
: yup...that is me making the statement. I posted it. If we
: don't have that we put nothing of ourselves on the line and
: the whole thing is meaningless.

: Newshound, You attack everyone, so I do not feel particularly
: singled out. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you
: immediately fall into the place of having to destroy them,
: instead of using intellect to argue the point of view. I've
: watched you do it to others on these pages and usually they
: just end up walking away. Having been there, I understand
: their frustration. Let's see, what was it you called me a
: few weeks ago? Ah, yes, for daring to call the Catholic
: Church the Universal Church created by Constantine, YOU
: told ME that I was, 'seriously mentally ill','Bi-polar'
: even, and needed to 'get a life'. That is the way you
: answer people who have REAL opinions for which they take
: responsibility. Since you couldn't argue with the facts so
: that meaningful dialogue might ensue, you simply set out to
: discredit me. Now you are doing it again.

: You seem to think you have great support for your tactics. The
: fact is, I received several letters from folks suggesting I
: should have 'taken you to the mat' after the last time. I
: do not operate that way. The fact is, if I feel anything
: for you, it is sorrow that you must live in such
: miserableness. I KNOW how much it hurts. But part of you
: will not WANT to understand that. I think you are here
: because you really want to learn that about yourself but
: don't know how to accept it. But that is MY opinion and I
: take full responsibility for it!

: In a way, I wish you could hurt me (as you are threatening)
: because then you would have the opportunity to realize that
: it wouldn't salve your own internal wounds. You are the one
: you are mad at; not me. Your little girl wants to be loved
: so damned bad she drips her misery all over these posts.
: (It is very hard to be blind to something so obvious...) If
: you have any doubt, just re-read the one you wrote to me.
: Does it sound like an adult wrote it? Come on, be honest.

: Though I love a good intellectual debate, I have no desire to
: fight with your child-self over such ignorant issues as
: 'hatred' (a total waste of time); or pettiness. But in all
: honesty, I must tell you: I was once very much like you:
: self-righteous to a fault. Once I realized how miserable it
: made me, I gave it up. But that was 30 years ago.

: I hope with all my heart that you resolve this incredible need
: to 'embed' which seems at such odds with your duality. For
: your pennance I sentence you to 30 pages of Dan Winter.
: (smiles) Great Stuff!

: Wishing you all the best in your journey.
: I wish you no harm,
: Esclarmonde