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Re: So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement...

Posted By: vonMonke
Date: Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 20:27:34
www.rumormill.news/4884

In Response To: Re: So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement... (ben_abraham)

: Courage of her convictions?

I don't doubt that she has real anti-Jewish resentment and issues.

Is that what impresses you?

What impresses me is that there is more to Jana than what I don't like about her attitudes and expressed ideas. She expresses also other ideas that are of a better sort, among them a seemingly genuine concern for children.

You
: mean statements like: "the most inferior people ever
: to roam the Earth" (Jews)

: "The nomads [a.k.a Jews] are responsible for every evil
: act ever committed in the world from the beginning right up
: to this minute"

: "They [Jews] have taken our Divine Inheritance, corrupted
: it and sold it back to us for a profit"

: "The nomads [Jews] have a voracious appetite for
: unblemished Human flesh" ?????

I think those statements are pretty wrong-headed and more than a little fanciful, but not in any kind of story-bookish way.

: This stuff is straight out of nazi propaganda material, or
: better yet, that ridiculous forgery "Protocols of the
: Elders of Zion."

To be truthful, I haven't read any of that stuff.

: And for the threatening stuff: "They [again, Jews] are
: incredibly dangerous and parasitical and must not be
: allowed to rule or practice their so-called
: 'religion'"

I do think the statement about disallowing the practice of Judaism construable as threatening. And wrong. Someone I know very well converted, late in life, to Judaism. The change in his outlook and self seen during the several years he lived after his conversion were in the highest degree positive.

: "We must bell them as we would bell a cat in order to
: protect those we love"

: Are you blind? Do you not see the irrational hatred?

I do see what I perceive as an irrational hatred. I'd like to know what is really behind it and actually have considered asking her for the plain facts of the matter.

To you,
: all is okay because she does not use foul language, which I
: guess would offend you.

Foul language does offend me. That's why I try not to use it very often.

But the nazi stuff doesn't.

Does one always have to, by way of presenting his bona-fides, have to make an obligatory pro-jewish-anti-nazi statement whenever one encounters anti-jewish/anti-Zionist sentiment in a public forum? You seem to think so.

As your knee jerks so does your tongue and your keyboarding hands? Sometimes mine do, as well.

: And you have the audacity to compare my postings to hers?

If you will return to my post and read after having taken a walk around the block, consumed a glass of cold water, and allowed your pulse-rate to return to normal, you should be able to note that I compared your bias to Jana's, not your respective posts.

: And you praise the "courage of her convictions"
: however nazi they may be?

I noted previously, and note again that she seems to have the courage to express her convictions, however much I may disagree with them.

: And you term our exchange a mere "disagreement,"

I wrote euphemistically, as was probably obvious to most of several readers of my previous post, of your mutual profound disagreement.

as
: if my gentle fact-based posting

I found your post an attempted incitement to abridge the free speech of another forum member. Free speech, not politically correct speech, is, to a great degree, what this forum is about.

and her vicious nazi/aryan
: 'kill the Jews' diatribe were morally equivalent?

I think I've already responded to that accusation above.

:Shame on you.

There is no shame in speaking in defence of freedom of expression.

: You're right. No one has to read anything. But not every
: submission has to be posted either.

Your point?

: You are obviously not one of the decent people I appealed to
: for support. Personally, I suspect you get a kick out of
: RogueButterfly's anti-Jewish postings.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I frequently question my own "goodness," usually answering in the negative. However, your opinion or esteem may not be a commodity I find valuable.

: I'm interested to see how many there are out there who agree
: with me.

I'll be interested to see the responses, too.

RogueButterfly only brings this board down to the
: vulgar level of an Aryan Nation website.

Never seen one of those.

Happy Thursday,

vM



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TSR NOMADS OF THE DIASPORA
RogueButterfly -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 12:25:59
Re: TSR NOMADS OF THE DIASPORA
ButchVegas -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 14:52:51
THIS VICIOUS POST DOES NOT BELONG HERE
ben_abraham -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 15:19:20
So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement...
vonMonke -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 15:39:45
Re: So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement...
ben_abraham -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 16:32:23
Re: So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement...
vonMonke -- Thursday, 26-Oct-2000 20:27:34
Re: So You Two Have a Profound Disagreement...
LoriLynn -- Friday, 27-Oct-2000 09:23:52
A STATEMENT OF MY POSITION
RogueButterfly -- Friday, 27-Oct-2000 23:51:55
AntiZionist Speech Adjudicated 1949 U.S.Sup.Court
vonMonke -- Tuesday, 31-Oct-2000 16:05:24
Terminiello v. Chicago
vonMonke -- Thursday, 2-Nov-2000 15:41:25
Re: THIS VICIOUS POST DOES NOT BELONG HERE
shadow35 -- Saturday, 28-Oct-2000 07:06:08

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