: In my own neighborhood of Gilo, which abuts Bethlehem where
: shots have been repeatedly fired in apartment buildings, I
: find the presence of the tanks and soldiers on the
: frontline comforting. We have seen by the horrendous attack
: upon two Israeli reservists captured, tortured and killed
: in Ramallah, just what these mobs can do.

What do you expect? Do you you think the partisans in eastern
europe during WWII let the germans they caught go? No. They
killed them because they were part of an occupying army.

: Living in Jerusalem and watching the scenes of violence shown

: on the international news channels, I am amazed at how well
: the Palestinian propaganda machine works. Each of the
: speakers delivers a well-rehearsed mantra of
: mis-information that is then endorsed and repeated over and
: over by international journalists. It is as though they are
: in cooperation to discredit Israel.

This is just not true, if it were any country BUT Israel, they
would be a "rogue state" who commits "human rights violations".

: Consider these questions: Did you ever notice that the
: conflicts with Israeli troops are always at checkpoints,
: borders, and positions approved by the Oslo agreements?

Yes.

: The Israelis are not marching into the midst of Palestinian
: communities. Rather, they are valiantly defending their
: posts, as mobs of violent Palestinians march upon them with
: the intent of overrunning the positions and killing them.

Yes.

: Should these positions be captured, one does not have to
: speculate on what would happen to the soldiers - as was seen
: clearly on October 12th when Israeli reservists were
: brutally tortured, beaten and murdered in Ramallah. What if
: these angry mobs moved through these checkpoints into
: Jewish neighborhoods? Can you imagine what destruction,
: conflict and death would take place? Of course the IDF
: seeks to keep these angry mobs
: contained at the border.

It amazes me that anyone could be suprised at any of this because
Israel is the OPPRESSOR, the Palestinians are the OPPRESSED.

: Why do the Palestinians send their children and youths to the
: "front lines" to be martyred?

: The Palestinian Authority pays the families $2,000 for a death
: and $300 for an injury to advance the cause of the
: Palestinians and seek international sympathy for the
: Palestinians. The individual Palestinian is sacrificed for
: the ultimate goals of the community, which is Muslim
: doctrine.

Where is that written down? Has it ever occured to you that they
might just feel strongly about the matter & so are prepared to give their lives? Of course not, you see the $$$ & you think,
Ah, obvious. What does that say about your priorities in life?

: Why is it that the only leaders who call for peace are the
: Israeli Jewish leaders, while the Palestinian leaders call
: for more and more violence?

: The Moslem clerics have called for two consecutive Friday
: "Days of Rage" (on the Moslem holy day). Can you
: imagine Christian ministers or Jewish rabbis calling for
: "days of rage" on their Sabbath days in order to
: kill Moslems?

: What kind of religion is Islam that calls for violence and not
: peace?

: What kind of leaders seek to bring violence upon their people
: and not peace?

: Why are the religious leaders not orchestrating candlelit
: vigils and prayers for peace, instead of giving mobs
: wheelbarrows of rocks to attack Jews?

PEACE? you call living under an occupying foreign power PEACE?

Israel wants "peace".To be left in peace to illegally occupy
the west bank,gaza strip & golan heights, what is the peace process to Israel but de-facto recognition of its illegal occupation.

: Even Bill Clinton is frustrated that the only words that
: Arafat can mouth are words of war. Not once has Arafat or
: his leaders called for peace, negotiation or a cessation of
: violence.

see above

: Israel allows mutual worship at the sites and guarantees
: freedom of worship and access. The Moslems do not, and no
: one in the international community complains about this
: practice. As the Palestinian leadership whine that they are
: disenfranchised, why don't the news reporters remind them
: that since July, the Israeli government offered them 92% of
: the West Bank, east
: Jerusalem as part of a joint capital and sovereignty over the
: Temple Mount AND THEY REJECTED THE OFFER. This was more
: than any Israeli leader had offered or was expected to
: offer. Yet, Arafat rejected it and then claims that there
: is no movement in the Peace Process. What is left for
: Israel to offer?

So what? You want to tell the world just where & what that 8% is?
I thought not. Israel occupys 100% illegally, & should return 100%.

: And now, how could most Israelis even agree to such generous
: terms now that they know that their peace partners do not
: want peace at all? At this point, individuals on both
: sides, Jews and Palestinians alike, are suffering and need
: our prayers and help. The deterioration of the past days
: has caused
: everyone in Israel to wonder where this will all end. Many
: have warned that the Oslo Peace Process was a sham on the
: part of the Palestinians to get armed PLO terrorists into
: the heart of Israel to initiate a rebellion and war to
: destroy Israel according to their published "Phase
: Program."

And the IDF is shaking in its boots at the thought of all these
well trained, well armed soldiers taking over the country?
Yeah right.The IDF could crush them in hours & you know that.

: Just because the Palestinians are portrayed as children and
: youths who are only armed with rocks, the reality is that
: they have a 20,000 plus trained army with automatic weapons
: in the heart of Israel who are firing against the Jews.
: Their children are put on the front lines in front of the
: cameras to gain international sympathy, while their snipers
: fire from the
: surrounding buildings.

see above

: Any national government would meet the intensity of violence
: of mobs with police and military strength to stop the
: lunacy
: and bring calm for the larger community. Yes, the government
: would be better armed to defend themselves, but this does
: not necessarily make the defending force "bad"
: and the offending group "good."

Sure, I agree totally, they would. But they would not do it with
live ammunition, helicopter gunships & tanks would they? Actually, I suppose they might if it was Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Red China.

: Before you just accept the assessment of the secular press
: with regard to Israel, consider the place of the Jews and
: Israel in their historical, biblical and prophetic context
: and ask
: just who is working for or against the ultimate plans of the
: God of Israel, the God of the Bible.

What a load of c**p. historical conquest & occupation have no standing under international law anymore & there are good reasons why religion & state were seperated. "Oh, we should be allowed to kill them because we were here first & we reckon we're special 'cause God told us we were"

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Sangraal