PART 4

The CIA and Mind-Control For Kids// · Fwd of a talk by Jon Rappaport

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg41404.html

Chris Denicola, another client of Valerie Wolf. Tucson, Arizona. "I was taught how to pick locks, be secretive, use my photographic memory. Dr. Green taught me a technique to withhold information by repeating numbers to myself. He would show me information, then shock me [electroshock]. I would repeat the numbers in my head. I refused to disclose the information that he just gave me, and he found me to be very successful in that part of his mind control experiment. I was four years old. He moved on to wanting me to kill dolls that looked like real children. I stabbed a doll with a spear once, after being severely tortured. The next time I refused. Dr. Green used many torture techniques, but as a I got older, I resisted more and more. He often tied me down in a cage near his office. Between 1972 and 76, he and his assistants were sometimes careless and left the cage unlocked. At these times I snuck into his offce and found files with reports and memos addressed to CIA and military personnel. Included in these files were program projects, sub-projects, subject and experiment names, with some code numbers for radiation and mind control experiments. I was caught twice and Dr. Green tortured me ruthlessly with electric shock, drugs, spinning me on a table, putting shots in my stomach and my back, dislocating my joints and hypnotic techniques to make me feel crazy and suicidal. Because of my rebellion and growing lack of cooperation, they gave up on me as a spy assassin. Consequently the last two years, 1974-76, Dr. Green had access to me. He used various mind control techniques to reverse the spy-assassin messages through self destruct and death messages if I ever remembered anything. His purpose? He wanted me dead and I have struggled to stay alive all of my adult life. I believe that it is truly by the grace of God that I am still alive."

That's just a piece of her testimony. A statement from Alan Scheώin, lawyer, professor of law, Santa Clara: "Claudia's therapist [Valerie Wolf] has been kind enough to send me, with her client's informed consent, some of the pertinent records reflecting Claudia's memories of her experiences as an unwitting subject in these experiments. I have been able to confirm that some of the information Claudia has provided is absolutely true and could not have been derived from any published source." I spoke with Scheώin and he said to me, I thought he was playing it a little close to the vest with this, I understand he is writing a book on this, so I don't know … he said, "there is one piece of information that I was able to confirm, and I don't know how she could possibly have known this. It involves the connection between two government researchers that is not published anywhere" and he said "I just happened to know that they are connected and she mentioned that they knew each other."

Let me just comment on some of this here. All throughout this testimony you have other clients and patients saying similar things. Dr. Green, Dr. Green, Dr. Green, Dr. Green. Electroshock. Torture, sex abuse and all of that. About three weeks ago I met a woman who is a therapist. She works north of Los Angeles. If you met this woman and talked to her, you would say 'she's very on top of things, she is very smart, she seems like a real human being.' So she looks at me and she says, "I was part of this when I was a kid, as a child." She doesn't want to talk about it yet, but she said, "… this business about creating perfect spies, I don't think that's it. I don't think that's why they were really doing it." Part of the explanation about what they were supposedly trying to do was to create blank slates … that was their thinking. You can take a human being and erase their mind, then we can program it to be whatever we want it to be. Well adults just go psychotic, so let's try children … they are more flexible and they have less in their mind to take out … how mechanistic can you get, and that would be the rationale supposedly. From that it has been assumed that the whole point of this was to create a perfect spy, with with nice neat categories of sub-personalities, and program and trigger words, manchurian candidate type stuff. You know, "we will now call up sub-personality 134. Are you there?" "Yes I am here." "What have you learned on your recent trip to Vienna?" Start. Bing. And then sub-personality 134 says, "I boarded the train, and went to Vienna, and read the following documents that were given to me …" - like a computer? That this was the intention. But this woman said to me, "Yeah, but I think there is something beyond this. It is somewhere in the back of my mind, but I can't get to it." I didn't question her about how she knows this, but she said "First of all this was a very wide-ranging project … there were echelons of the project, not just simply one level. There were children brought up from South America and Mexico. They were considered expendable. They were used with the crudest techniques of brainwashing and so forth. The idea was to learn from this techniques in a more refined way techniques that would be used on another echelon of children. The best and brightest in America." I said, "Do you mean children from well-to-do families?" She said, "Not necessarily. The smartest."

They could be thinking that what they want to do is program these kids who would later, supposedly, emerge in prominent positions in society, so that they would then have long term control of society by controlling people in power positions. She said (she didn't say "yes") but she said, "Well, yeah, that makes sense. The Nazis got a hold of the intelligentsia. They turned the intelligentsia - they were able to either silence or bring the intelligentsia into their fold - so it was a major project. She said to me, "They brought a lot of doctors over here after the War and not just the rocket scientists … they brought a lot of doctors over here." And all throughout this testimony you will read, sprinkled here, "a doctor with a German accent … was it Green … was it Greenburg … a German Jew? … did it look like he was a Jew? … he had blonde hair …" That kind of stuff.

I would say this is a Nazi project, but a lot of the Nazis are American-born. It shouldn't be excused or explained away on that basis because as we know, if we look at Nazi psychiatry for example, they learned a lot from the Americans, especially about eugenics. This is not something where we should say, " … well, the Nazis took over …" This is home-grown stuff. This is Americana at its worst, at its lowest form. This is also the sub-sub-basement that you walk into when you are a materialist, when that is your philosophy. And I don't mean you are a materialist in the sense that you want money, possessions … I mean, philosophically. The materialist position is that we are meat, and tissue, and cells, and electrical impulses, and that's it. When that system collapses, we are gone, never to return. My own feeling is that when you espouse and embrace that philosophy, the ultimate, ultimate sub-basement that you end up in is that sub-basement … that's where you end up. Finally, that's where it all comes out.

I must say, even though I admire many of the researchers on psychedelics, and feel that they are basically liberating types of people, I think some of them make a mistake when they start talking about, " …well, it's all chemicals anyway … what difference does it make? … we are only dealing with chemical reactions anyway, so what's this nonsense about consciousness separate from chemicals?" They are using that of course to say, "why is the government trying to outlaw the use of psychedelics, if in fact all consciousness is chemical anyway, they are just being selective in their choices of chemical … they are saying 'alcohol - yes, lsd - no'." But I think these people have something to think about in this one area. I am not trying to put them down at all, in fact I admire them. But I think when they start talking about "well, consciousness is just chemicals anyway…" I am afraid I have to disagree. I think it is a lot more than chemicals. You can certainly make people do very bizar re things with chemicals, and you can make them suffer a great deal because we are in these bodies … it's a lot more than that. That's where I think you wind up. You wind up with this crazy idea about programming people … that's where I think you wind up with this stuff.

On the plus side, if we know this, if we understand what is happening here, and therapists can be brought into this whole dialogue, then we are talking about bridging something that is very un-middle-class into the middle-class and into people who normally don't consider these kinds of things because we are talking therapists here, private practice therapists whose patients come into their office and say "I was part of CIA mind control." I am not saying that the middle class is not some fabulous entity that we have to somehow court, but I am saying that this is an issue which can get some people involved who normally do not get involved and if they are so willing, they can create some havoc with the government and that's my next point here. One of the reasons that I am going into this, and getting involved in it, is because I want people to begin to see the government for what it actually is and I think this is a way of doing that. Unequivocally coming to it. People say, "the government, yeah … if we just get more of the right people in … a little more funding for research … more this … more that … everything is going to work out and we will get the nice guys, elect Bill and don't elect George, and elect Jim and don't elect Phil …" You know … it's all this kind of whipsawing stuff I see every time an election comes around. "We gotta vote for Bill because if we don't we'll get George …" and this and that … boppada bop …. It's like a vice that people are in, and everybody knows it. I have a statement here from Colin Ross. A very interesting man. Never heard of him before. He's a psychiatrist from Richardson, Texas. He has been researching the CIA for 20 years. Every time an MKULTRA type researcher dies, he sends away FOIA requests, because he figures, well the guy is dead, they will be more likely to release the documents now, and he just … he's very cute with this, see? He accumulates a little of this, a little of that. MKULTRA had about 139 to 150 sub-projects … nobody knows what they all were, or even if that is the subtotal. It's the basic mind control project of the CIA after WWII. He has files on as many of these as he can possibly get. "I have in my possession about 80 of the 149 sub-project files which I obtained through FOIA, filing requests with the CIA on each deceased investigator of interest." (I like that.) He says, "Neurosurgeons at Tulane, Yale and Harvard did extensive research on brain electrode implants with intelligence funding and combined bra in implants with large numbers of drugs including hallucinogens." So while they were telling Tim Leary and Richard Alpert to get out of Harvard … because a few people were taking acid and enjoying it … there were other people there who were inserting electrodes in people's brains and then giving them acid. "MKULTRA alone included four sub-projects on children, one was conducted at the International Children's Summer Camp in Maine by an unwitting investigator. The MKULTRA sub-project file in my possession for this project states that "the CIA's interest in this research was in establishing contact with foreign nationals of potential future operational use by the CIA. The children who served as subjects in the project were as young as eleven years old." "Multiple personality disorder patients in treatment throughout the United States and Canada are describing involvement in mind control research that is much more sophisticated than MKULTRA. Deliberate sexual abuse of children to make them more dissociative … " and then he ends up simply by saying, "I would be pleased to testify at length at any hearings on CIA and military mind control." Colin Ross, M.D. Psychiatrist Richardson Texas

Here is a statement from a therapist submitted anonymously. "One client told me that they were made to believe they had been abducted by UFO's so that if memories were retrieved, they would be discredited by the community." I found that kind of interesting. Hmmm. Other people mentioned satanic costumes … CIA people putting on satanic costumes while they were doing their crazy stuff here … Here's John Boyd, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist, practiced clinical psychology for 25 years, Ohio State, University of Virginia. "I have treated three patients whose memories of childhood abuse include detailed recall of sophisticated mind control technology being inflicted upon them by "experts" in collusion with the patients' mentally disturbed parents. The independent reports of these individuals contain similar information of an esoteric and intricate nature concerning mind control technology which in my opinion could be gained only through personal experience." The press says nothing. The press says zero about this. Here's a woman operating under the pseudonym I believe of Chandra Walker-Michaels. "I learned how to handle weapons, particularly how an ice-pick left a neat hole, a hole that allowed so little blood to escape that the victim could remain in public view for hours before they would be discovered not to be napping." "I was taken on planes to Germany and Egypt to assist Joe with arson … to Israel, along with messages … to Mexico for terrorist activities. I remember a small laboratory in a partially exposed basement of a large building I visited many times starting at age four south of Washington, D.C. At the age of fourteen I was drugged and woke up on a stretcher, and I heard men outside my door discussing how they had gotten me past the guards at Langley that night. At the age of fifteen Joe introduced me to an elderly man who he referred to as "the Senator". At the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C. the portly gentleman was brought to the room adjoining ours. Our closet space was filled with photographic equipment viewing the Senator's scene … I refused to participate. I was severely punished." Just a word about the media, and then we will take a break. One of the best payoffs of being a reporter for fifteen years is that I have come to see this machine called "the media" and how it operates in a way that I never thought was possible because I have talked to a lot of reporters, and they become the eyes, the mouth and the ears for everybody else. Since I am now researching the Oklahoma City bombing, and I have done a lot of research on AIDS, and now this and other topics, there is a pattern that always seems to emerge. The pattern is that there is a cover story that emerges very quickly after something is either revealed or happens. Very quickly a cover story comes to the fore and then anything that does not fit the cover story is discarded. In the case of Oklahoma City, it happens to be basically that McVeigh and a few of his friends are rednecks … the rednecks are connected to other rednecks who belong to militias and the militias blew up the building and that's it … we don't w ant to know anything else … they are all kind of crazy and stupid … that's the end of the story … they rented a Ryder truck knowing it could be traced … they bought 5000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate knowing it could be traced …(hey business is suddenly picking up … did you see that guy who suddenly came in and bought 5000 lbs. of ammonium nitrate??? Wow. I thought business was kind of slow and then all of a sudden they came in like 15 or 20 cars and they like, loaded it up in the backs of the station wagons and they kept coming back for more and they took it away … I guess April is a really good planting month you know?? They have a lot of crops in mind …) That's the cover, right? They were that stupid, and that's all we have to know. And McVeigh, three hours after the explosion, happens to be driving in a car with no licence, and a cop stops him and says "I will have to cite you for driving without a licence and you will have to appear …" McVeigh says "No problem", t hen the cop looks at him and he is writing out the citation, he's going to give it to him, and let him drive away. No problem, Driving without a licence. So what? Then the cop says, "Sir, do you have something under your windbreaker there?" And McVeigh says, "I have a weapon under my windbreaker." Pulls down the zipper, there's a 9mm Glock, and a five inch knife hanging off his belt. He has just killed 100 people … he's on a lonely road some place … a cop stops him … he's going to let him go … he then shows the cop his weapon … the cop then puts his service revolver to his head, disarms him, takes him to jail, puts him on ice for a few days until the Feds … they work fast these guys … three days and they know who did it, they know what happened, they come to the jail where he is, and they take him … Right? By the way, I was told that initial reports placed McVeigh at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. People who anonymously testified in here, and it has been mentioned by other people, that some of the mind control that was done on them was done at Tinker Air Force Base. Tinkerbell, right? So this is the scenario that is painted by the press, see? Talk about mind control here … now the reporters that I talked to … how they slip and slide with this … once the cover story is established … how they manage to keep from discovering anything, or thinking about anything … or just considering the insanity of the cover story itself, is really something to behold. And I have been talking to a bunch of reporters down in Oklahoma City now … I just listen and we talk and it is all very chatty and everything … and for example one guy who was with the only daily in Oklahoma (The Daily Oklahoman) … all he could talk about was the federal boys … the federal boys combing through the wreckage of the building … the federal boys were there and they did this and they told me and they said this … and it was kind of like, when a sportswriter covers the Yankees … the Slugger told me this, and he told me he threw the curve ball and he holds it this way … had a beer with Mickey … you know, that kind of stuff … "the federal boys told me" that they couldn't find any other kind of bomb in the building at all … that's it … what else is there to know … the federal boys day after day were going through the wreckage and they told him they couldn't find anything … this guy would have talked for three hours like this if I had let him … and that's how he keeps himself from figuring out what's going on and each reporter has his own little scene. In the case of this one here, of course, now Valerie Wolf and one of her clients, they say "look we are not sure we really want to get this exposed all the way out because we know that the False Memory Syndrome Foundation right now has a stranglehold on the press." That's the cover story. Nobody cares that the FMSF board is composed of these guys with CIA, mind control connections … That's the cover story that's laid down, and so everything else is irrelevant. That's what we have to bust - is that cover story - with enough people coming forward and saying, "it's not true".