A possible new pattern connecting the Chinese and the Mexicans has been detected by Whitley Strieber, famed author on the "alien abduction" phenomenon. In his essay included below, he writes about the current wave of well-publicized UFO sightings happening in China.
I am bringing this up because of the theory recently promulgated by RuMills concerning an alliance between Mexican thugs and the Chinese, and a future war waged by these Mexican thugs on America, after which the Chinese will take over America.
Because RuMills makes a U.S.-Chinese-Mexican connection, and because Whitley Strieber likewise implicitly ties the U.S., China, and Mexico together in his story on UFO's, I decided to collect the information together for others to examine and judge whether there may be a pattern here.
I would also like to point out a bulletin board discussion from last November that seems to anticipate the China UFO wave.
To summarize the progression that I am outlining:
In November of 1999 there was a discussion on the Art Bell bulletin board about the fact that you only seem to hear about alien abductions happening in the West, and not in Eastern countries such as China.
Then, a few months later, there was a wave of well-publicized sightings of UFO's in China.
Then, shortly thereafter, Whitley Strieber makes the connection between the recent waves of UFO's in Mexico, and the current wave of UFO's in China, and criticizes the West for not being as open to this phenomenon as these two nations.
Then, RuMills publishes the theory about Mexico and China conspiring to take over the United States.
Enjoy.
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Art Bell bulletin board thread "How to Protect Yourself From Alien Abduction".
http://bbs.rowlandnet.com/cgi-bin/WebX?7@206.1L1ufrvG^10@.ee76df7/92
The topics of this thread include whether calling on Jesus can protect you from an "alien abduction," and also why "alien abduction" only seems to occur in the West.
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Michael Coffman - 02:12pm Nov 5, 1999 MST (#81 of 106)
Kieran,
Welcome. Does that mean I shouldn't voice my speculation about "my" experinces?(chuckle) How bout this. . I had good results in fending off an attempt, not by calling on any "name" but by waking up and being very angry and forceful.Some may say "sometimes that works sometimes it dosen't." Some go willingly I guess, some fight it. I'm a fighter. As always love.
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Mark Seely - 03:30am Nov 9, 1999 MST (#83 of 106)
Seems like the vast majority of abductions come from Christian nations, and especially the U.S., doesn't it? This bespeaks a Christian weak mindedness.
You don't see people in China whining about abduction. Maybe that's because the Chinese, whom I, rightfully or wrongfully, consider an "instinctual" people (as opposed to Westerners being "intellectual"), have better sense than to answer the door when a stranger knocks. On the other hand, you could theorize that the aliens just don't like the Chinese genetics or culture. I vote for the former theory--it's the attitude that makes the difference.
Too much intellectualism, too much abstract theorizing--such as metaphysics and religion--makes too many excuses for being weak and unnatural. This is one of the big problems with traditional Christianity, as opposed to the true teachings attributed to Jesus. Jesus most likely did not preach, "give up your personal sovereignty, be stupid." I think tyrants placed those words in his mouth later, in their bid to create a working class population whose instincts were numbed.
If the "aliens" react to anything [can be driven away by anything], it's probably anger, outrage, righteousness, fearlessness, confidence, and the like. If someone comes to these attitudes through Jesus, so be it. The irony may be, that a false confidence in a Jesus philosophy that has been corrupted by tyrants may still work as well as a true belief.
My theory is that it's the attitude that counts, not whether it's based on anything real.
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Konni Kasemeier - 09:01pm Nov 10, 1999 MST (#85 of 106)
To Keira, thanks for your input,(post #80), this is a great question you addressed. I would like to know of the people's experience in rebuking Alien presence calling upon The Savior! There's been no mention from anyone yet!
Also to Mark (post #83), you seem a little cynical and you appear to be an authority on the Chinese (were you in this country?) - I would imagine that a Communist country would not communicate (or as you put it - whining!)to the world about their problems, especially anything concerning aliens! You also indicate that "traditional Christianity is possibly a false confidence in a Jesus philosophy that has been corrupted by tyrants". You appear to be of an agnostic belief - be independent and call upon one self to be, as you put it - "anger, outrage, righteousness, fearlessness, confidence and the like" is someone that does not have any God relationship, which is really too bad for you. I ask you to go to our God the Father and ask him a specific question you have and see what happens! Good Will and Good Luck to you my Friend.
To the rest of you, keep the faith and God Bless You All!
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Mark Seely - 09:40am Nov 11, 1999 MST (#86 of 106)
"Also to Mark (post #83), you seem a little cynical and you appear to be an authority on the Chinese (were you in this country?)"
I taught an English class to a group of Chinese immigrants for a year. It has been my impression that they take advantage of every possible situation for personal gain, they do not shrink from, but attack, whatever threatens them, and they have no guilt. On the other hand, they are very polite when not being threatened. They simply are not hypocrites.
This is practically frightening from the modern prostrate American's politically correct, brainwashed point of view. This is not to say the Chinese are perfect. They are far too worshiping of authority. This leaves them vulnerable in a different way, as they are willing to give up their sovereignty to the state.
"I would imagine that a Communist country would not communicate (or as you put it - whining!)to the world about their problems, especially anything concerning aliens!"
That's true, I realize that weakness in my argument. But really, abductions are a Western phenomenon, are they not?
"You appear to be of an agnostic belief ... "
I suppose, but that is a religious term that I do not apply to myself. It is accurate to say that I'm a skeptic.
"... someone that does not have any God relationship ... I ask you to go to our God the Father and ask him a specific question you have and see what happens!"
This is a meaningless passage. You also have no business requesting of me that I go do some thing.
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Mark Seely - 03:01am Jan 16, 2000 MST (#90 of 106)
I find it interesting that soon after my last post, about how abductions are not reported in China, I begin within the last month to read how UFO sightings are beginning to be reported in China.
This reminds me of the time when I and another board regular were making posts about the apparent Clinton/Chinese kickback situation, and soon thereafter Wen Ho Lee was being accused of spying.
I don't like patterns such as these. Whether coincidental or not, they bring to mind the realization that when doing thought experiments on the web, your intelligence is there for anyone to use for good or ill. Why work out possible evil scenarios for others to draw ideas from?
This illustrates the fact that focusing on the negative creates more negative. Perhaps the dark forces of the world would simply fade away if we stopped paying them any attention, and chose instead to focus on the good.
Keep in mind, of course, that among the absolute human goods are vigilance, self-defense, and the guarding of territorial boundaries. Some people would have us believe that these self-preservation directives are obsolete. They want us to believe this, because they want to enslave us.
Beware of this movement. You can feel the evil of it, in the moments when you are talking to others and you feel afraid of your own thoughts, so that you exert a strict control over your language, and repeat cliched, politically correct phrases, lest you be seen by others to be a "bad" type of person--racist, anti-Semitic, sexist, xenophobic, bigoted, homophobic, intolerant, isolationist, Luddite, reactionary, right wing, conspiracy nut, gun nut, uncaring of children, etc., etc., etc.
We must all learn to shoot down people who call us names. The phrases "Shut up," "Get out of my face," "That's none of your business," and "Don't be such a fascist" are good beginning weapons to use in this resistance effort.
Yes, I do see all of this as connected to UFO's, because UFO's and all of the above fall under the heading of psychological warfare. Fear and guilt have been promoted in the American mind for a long time now, and the majority of the American people have been taking it lying down.
For concrete proof that the phenomena of political correctness and UFO's are related, I refer you to Whitley Strieber's "Communion" itself. In this book, Mr. Strieber describes how during one abduction, the grays introduced him to the blue beings, telling him their coloring was "like your blacks." Mr. Strieber then had some kind of politically incorrect thought about blacks, and immediately became guilty and afraid, and found that the grays were staring at him as if inspecting his thoughts, as if condemning him.
Do you really need any more evidence that Marxism, globalism, the New World Order, and UFO's are all related? They are all darkness. They are all invasive. They all rely on fear and guilt to work, to make us give up and submit.
If I think blacks suck, that is my business and no one else's, certainly not any UFO entity's.
These connections must be realized before it is too late. I believe it is not just tribal identity, but human identity that certain forces want destroyed. Why would it be otherwise? Why would they stop with one and not proceed onto the other? Realize that there was never any valid reason to give up tribalism. Then you will understand how far we have descended into the suicidal abyss.
Reserve to your self what is yours, and do not give it up. Fight back. Reject guilt, reject fear, and get angry. Chase away that which is disturbing, confusing, or insulting, and realize that it is better to be lonely than to be a slave.
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Scott Kubala - 10:03am Jan 19, 2000 MST (#91 of 106)
Mark: Regarding post #90. You mention your perceived connection between your post on UFO sightings in China, and the subsequent flood of news stories of such craft in China. It seems to me that the most likely explanation of this is that your demonstrated lack of understanding of the phenomenon is simply very well timed. Nothing more...no conspiracy, no Thought Police attempting to subdue you.
I would also challenge your comment on Whitley Streiber's experience with the blue aliens. I believe you have twisted the message he is attempting to convey by sharing this experience. Whitley's writing promotes understanding, tolerance, growth and spiritual development. Your post seems to promote ethnocentricity and ignorance, especially in regard to your comment on blacks. No man is an island, and your thoughts and actions affect others. Whitley Streiber has shown that these entities have attempted to demonstrate this universal truth in a very personal way. You have yet to learn, but perhaps someday you will. We will pray for you.
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My response to that last post from Scott Kubala: in your eye, dumb guy.
A short time after the first of these posts, as stated, there was a big wave of UFO reports in China. Here, Whitley Strieber reports.
UFOS SWEEP ACROSS CHINA. GOVERNMENT RESPONDS SENSIBLY, by Whitley Strieber
3/5/00
http://www.strieber.com/news-050.html
Beginning in December, 1999, UFO sightings began to decline in the United States and the western world in general, while sighting reports exploded in China. The western press, in general responded with a much milder sneer than it normally reserves for UFO issues. Perhaps this was because the official Chinese position is far less distorted than the stance that has been taken by western governments, and the press was not willing to laugh in the face of Chinese scientists regarded with respect in their own country.
Aviation engineer Zhou Xiaoqiang, the secretary general of the Chinese UFO Research Organization commented, “this is the most significant number of sightings reported in China since UFOs became a permitted area of study in 1978.”
China’s UFO magazine, The Journal of UFO Research has a circulation of 400,000 and offers a wealth of scientifically grounded studies into the phenomenon. Chinese researchers have the resources they need to effectively gather data at a scientifically useful level of recovery quality, and when there was a wave of UFO sightings over Beijing on December 11, they moved at once to set up video surveillance in the Changping suburb that appeared to be the focus of the activity.
Because China is open to acquiring information about this phenomenon, it is Chinese science that will reap whatever reward of knowledge that it offers, no matter what it is that generates UFO sightings.
It has been noted that interest brings more sightings, in part simply because publicity causes more people to look to the skies, and in part, it would seems possible, because there may be some sort of response from the phenomenon.
The clearest evidence of this comes from Mexico, where, beginning in 1996, media star Jaime Maussan began running UFO video on his popular news program, 60 Minutes. Soon, he was receiving hundreds of videos, and the vast majority of them have proven to be genuinely anomalous.
It is possible that there will be a similar effect in China, as the country’s scientific community gears up to respond to UFO sightings and claims of alien abduction in a manner calculated to generate some real answers, rather than remaining aloof and ignorant as do western scientists.
What knowledge the phenomenon has to offer mankind, it would seem, is going to be gained first by China. As this knowledge could be of breathtaking importance to mankind, it may be that it will shift the focus of human progress eastward for a very long time to come.
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About Mr. Strieber's essay:
Do you agree with Mr. Strieber that China and Mexico are more "sensible" than the United States as regards UFO's and aliens?
Do you hope, as Whitley Strieber seems to, that the UFO phenomenon "will shift the focus of human progress eastward for a very long time to come"?
I claimed that the Chinese seemed temperamentally better able than Americans to resist "alien" incursions, real or imagined. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe Americans have in fact acted more "sensibly" on this issue than anyone else in the world. And maybe, in some people's view, that is the problem.
Did UFO's not work out as planned here in the United States? And are UFO's therefore being tried elsewhere, on people whose minds are easier to mold?
That is, the Chinese historically have been very moldable--witness the Cultural Revolution. And of course the Mexicans are very, very moldable and superstitious people--witness people seeing the Virgin Mary in ketchup stains, and people nailing themselves to crosses on an annual basis.
Then, on 3/16/00, last but not least, RuMills publishes the "WHITES GET OUT -- THIS IS ARE LAND" story, about the Chinese and Mexicans conspiring to take over the U.S.
Patterns, anyone?
