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Many ancient historical documents were much younger than commonly believed, and most Greek/Roman texts had been forged by Benedictine monks

Posted By: Bob
Date: Monday, 18-Jan-2016 18:09:37
www.rumormill.news/37703

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"We have almost no information about events between AD 800-1000, and most historical events we know took place in AD 1000-1500 - (Anatoly Fomenko - Russian mathematician (1945-....)."
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According to Jean Hardouin, a French classical scholar, who was born at Quimper in Brittany in AD 1646–1729, it was he who suggested that many ancient historical documents were much younger than commonly believed to be. . . . .

The idea of chronologies different from the conventional chronology can be traced back to at least the early 17th century.

In 1685 he published a version of "Pliny the Elder's Natural History" when he claimed that statement (above, in the Subject-headline window)

For those that may think that shortening the timeline of history is a completely crackpot idea, keep in mind that

The venerated analytical mind of Isaac Newton, questioned the standard chronology as well, even writing a book on it called "The Chronology of Ancient Kingdoms Amended".

My** guess is that most modern Newton biographers avoided mentioning his chronological research, or summarized this aspect of his life as simply a profound obsession with the Christian bible.

I** don't necessarily agree with everything that Fomenko writes.

Some of his conjectures are really 'out there', but

I agree with the general premise that little evidence exists today, for the "Dark Ages" or for events before 1000 A.D.

** 'Crac' (writer of this article).

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The "New Chronology" (according to A Fomenko and co.) is radically shorter than the conventional chronology, because

All of ancient Greek/Roman/Egyptian history, is "folded" onto the Middle Ages and Antiquity, and, the Early 'Middle Ages', are eliminated.

According to Fomenko, the history of humankind goes only as far back as AD 800,

We have almost no information about events between AD 800-1000, and

Most historical events we know took place in AD 1000-1500.
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Anatoly Fomenko and the New Chronology

Who is Antatoly Fomenko and what is the New Chronology?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The New Chronology of Anatoly Timofeevich Fomenko (A Russian mathrematician, born in 1945) is an attempt to rewrite world chronology, based on his conclusion that world chronology, as we know it today, is fundamentally flawed.

The ideas of the New Chronology are a direct continuation of earlier ideas of Nikolai Morozov, and may have had their origin in the theories of the French scholar Jean Hardouin.

The chronology is commonly associated with the name of Fomenko, although it is, in fact, a collaboration of Fomenko with several other Russian mathematicians, including Gleb Vladimirovich Nosovsky.

The "New Chronology" is radically shorter than the conventional chronology, because all of ancient Greek/Roman/Egyptian history is "folded" onto the Middle Ages and Antiquity, and the Early Middle Ages are eliminated.

According to Fomenko, the history of humankind goes only as far back as AD 800, we have almost no information about events between AD 800-1000, and most historical events we know took place in AD 1000-1500.

These views are entirely rejected by mainstream scholarship. While some mainstream researchers have offered revised chronologies of Classical and Biblical history which do shorten the timeline of ancient history by eliminating various "dark ages," none of these revisionist chronologies are as radical as Fomenko's:

The events which are traditionally assumed to have happened in the centuries before AD 1 are still thought to have happened thousands of years ago, not hundreds of years ago as in Fomenko's timeline.

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In 1887, Edwin Johnson expressed the opinion that early Christian history was largely invented or corrupted in the 2nd and 3rd centuries.[4]

In 1909 Otto Rank made note of duplications in literary history of a variety of cultures:

...almost all important civilized peoples have early woven myths around and glorified in poetry their heroes, mythical kings and princes, founders of religions, of dynasties, empires and cities—in short, their national heroes.

Especially the history of their birth and of their early years is furnished with phantastic [sic] traits; the amazing similarity, nay literal identity, of those tales, even if they refer to different, completely independent peoples, sometimes geographically far removed from one another, is well known and has struck many an investigator.[5]

Nikolai Morozov was the first to claim the existence of correlations between the dynasties of Old-Testament kings and Roman emperors and to suggest that the entire chronology prior to the 1st century BC is wrong.

Fomenko became interested in Morozov's problematic theories in 1973. In 1980, together with a few colleagues from the mathematics department of Moscow State University, he published several articles on "new mathematical methods in history" in peer-reviewed journals.

The articles stirred a lot of controversy, but ultimately Fomenko failed to win any respected historians to his side. By the early 1990s, Fomenko shifted his focus from trying to convince the scientific community via peer-reviewed publications to publishing books.

His books range from popular to rather involved, yet accessible to educated readers.

By 2005 his theory had grown to cover all of the Old World, from England and Ireland to China

.....

Brief summary

In volumes 1, 2 and 3 of

History: Fiction or Science?,

Fomenko and his colleagues claim:

1. That different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;

2. That this chronology was largely manufactured by Joseph Justus Scaliger in Opus Novum de emendatione temporum (1583) and Thesaurum temporum (1606), and represents a vast array of dates produced without any justification whatsoever, containing the repeating sequences of dates with shifts equal to multiples of the major cabbalistic numbers 333 and 360;

3. That this chronology was completed by jesuit Dionysius Petavius in De Doctrina Temporum, 1627 (v.1) and 1632 (v.2);

4. That archaeological dating, dendrochronological dating, paleographical dating, numismatic dating, carbon dating, and other methods of dating of ancient sources and artifacts known today are erroneous, non-exact or dependent on traditional chronology;that their use in conjunction as 'confiming' one another is a statistical fallacy - probabilities can't be added.

5. That there is not a single document in existence that can be reliably dated earlier than the 11th century; that most 'ancient' artifacts may find other then consensual explanation;

6. That histories of Ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt were crafted during the Renaissance by humanists and clergy mostly on the basis of documents of their own making;

7. That the Old Testament is a rendition of events of the fourteenth to sixteenth centuries AD in Europe and Byzantium, containing 'prophecies' about 'future' events related in the New Testament, which is a rendition of events of 1153 to 1186 AD;

8. That the history of religions runs as follows: the pre-Christian period (before the XI century and JC), Bacchic Christianity (XI-XII century, before and after JC), JC Christianity (XII-XVI century) and its subsequent mutations into Orthodox Christianity, the Catholicism, and Islam;

9. That the most probable prototype of historical Jesus was Andronicus (allegedly AD1153 to 1186), the emperor of Byzantine; known for his failed reforms, his traits and deeds reflected in 'biographies' of many real and imaginary persons;

10. That the Almagest of Claudius Ptolemy, traditionally dated to around 150 AD and considered to be the corner stone of classical history, was compiled in sixteenth and seventeenth centuries from astronomical data of the ninth to sixteenth centuries.

11. That 37 complete Egyptian horoscopes found in Denderah, Esna, and other temples have unique valid astronomical solutions with dates ranging from 1000 AD and up to as late as 1700 AD;

12. That the Book of Revelation we know of contains a horoscope that is dated to 25 September - 10 October 1486 compiled by cabbalist Johannes Reuchlin.

13. That the horoscopes found in Sumerian/Babylonian tablets do not contain sufficient astronomical data consequently they have solutions every 30-50 yrs on the time axis and are therefore useless for purposes of dating;

14. That the Chinese tables of eclipses are useless for dating as they contain too many eclipses that did not take place astronomically; that Chinese tables of comets even if they were true can't be used for dating;

15. That all major inventions like powder and guns, paper and print were made in Europe in tenth to sixteenth centuries;

16. That Ancient Roman and Greek statues, showing perfect command of the human anatomy are fakes crafted in the Renaissance when, according to Fomenko, such command was for the first time attained.

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** My online persona is 'Cracrocrates', pronounced (krak-rŏk-rə-tēz), or more simply Crac.

I'm a history and politics buff.

I've posted on the internet in only one other forum, http://breakfornews.com/forum/ .

My posts on BreakForNews have varied from relatively inciteful to relatively ridiculous, depending on the topic.

Generally, my views tend not to be conventional ones.

However, my views are subject to change if new evidence suggests a different paradigm

Crac

. . . . . .

More at Source: http://cracrocrates.blogspot.com.au/2007/11/anatoly-fomenko-and-new-chronology.html



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