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Posted By: Lion
Date: Sunday, 17-Jan-2016 13:14:04
www.rumormill.news/37601

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We have a problem.

It's called time, and time is running out.

When the Baltic Dry Index (BDI) falls to it's lowest point ever recorded - without some miracle or shrewd bookkeeping over a two day period, know there is going to be hell to pay on Sunday night (tonight) when the markets open.

But even that is speaking Greek to most Americans.

Most Americans wouldn't know a BDI statistic from a dry socket of a pulled tooth.

They have been anesthetized and they are so comfortably numb they could care less. - Right and left index fingers in both ears, spouting "La,La,La,La,La"! like a bad Pee Wee Herman impression.

"Life is hard. It is even harder when you're stupid".

The only thing they will care about is when the shelves at Wal-Mart are empty, and only then will they even begin to care.

But not everyone is unaware.

Some of us understand the depth of corruption, lies, deception, and outright criminal attacks on the wellness and welfare of the continental usa, and American people at large.

We see quite clearly what is going on, and we don't need to look over our shoulders to see what we are after.

However, there is one core group of tyrannical psychopaths who would do well to watch their back, and look to see who is coming up behind them.

That is not a threat. That is a fact.

In fact, it's a shame that Fabian nut cases John Maynard Keynes and Harry Dexter White, the "founding fathers" of both the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) at Bretton Woods are NOT still alive, so they could be hanged again - in public.

You could say the Plebes are restless - again.

Or you could say the Goy are fed up - again.

You could say the Romans are still pissed at the 'uncivilized' German tribes for messing up the works.

You could also say the German tribes haven't forgotten WHY they HAD to rebel against the stinking Roman imperialists, and why they now have to do it AGAIN!

But don't brush it off at that, and don't expect the reason behind the discontent to fade away.

It's not going anywhere. We know.

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Judge Anna vov Reitz warns with a cautionary statement to be careful in how this matter is approached:

Why Unrest of Any Kind Defeats Both Versions of America

"The Federal United States has been operated as a puppet by the British Government which in turn has been operated as a puppet by the City State of Westminster aka Inner City of London which has been operated by international banking cartels and the Bar for generations.

In turn, these organizations have been influenced, led, and perpetuated by what Frank O'Collins calls "the Roman Cult" within the Roman Catholic Church.

Americans, like the British People, have gone along trustingly and been abused and enslaved. "

Here:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=37547

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Yes Judge Anna, WE know that.

However the time for explaining what happened, who did it, and how we got here - is past.

The fact is WE are here, and time for doing something about it is running out.

There is a time to talk and a time to shut up and shoot.

We've used up the talk time.

It is now time to take matters into our own hands, because if we do not, the talking heads will keep on explaining, and the Corporate parasites will keep on parasiting while the talking heads are talking.

One discontented plebe/goy reaction to the von Reitz statement:

Re: Anna Von Reitz: Why Unrest of Any Kind Def....

"I tell ya, It's so easy for people on the sidelines to say something like that. Your husband and brother weren't hauled away to prison. Arm chair warrior battling the beast from the warmth of a comfortable setting..."

That, is the REAL WORLD. That is where the rubber meets the road.

On the Hudes vs von Reitz discussion:

The Hudes PLAN is a paradox.

On one hand, Hudes acknowledges and admits; the Network of Global Corporate Control, and its many underling factions, is the parasite destroying the usa, and the remainder of the planet.

Well, that Network of Global Corporate Control Hudes speaks of is administered in the top ranks by the Tri-Lateral Commission (Founded by David Rockefeller and Zibigneiw Brzezinski), the UN, and Wall Street.

The lower tiers of the top ranks of NGCC, fall under that United Nations organization.

The UN - with a very dubious leadership role at the reptilian core - acts as the legal corporate head of ALL the following institutions who were initially chartered by the UN:

The UN legally orchestrates these parasite banking institutions within the Network of Global Corporate Control, and it is the proceeds from the parasitism orchestrated by the following institutions which provide the funding for the Network of Global Corporate Control:

Bank of International Settlements (BIS) or the Federal Reserve Bank (FED), where the current FED Chairman plays a dual role as BIS chairman.

http://tinyurl.com/hekl832

World Bank, or the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

The International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD)

International Development Association (IDA)

International Finance Corporation (IFC)

The Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency (MIGA)

What Hudes is suggesting then, is the above predatory organizations provide the solution, when their existence IS the problem.

Not gonna fly in the real world.

Why should America or any country deliver continued control of its monetary policy to the very parasites who usurped that policy in the first place?

We the People will not see help from any of these banking corporations, because they are not in the ‘helping’ business.

The paradox of the Hudes plan, is that Hudes is putting the fox in the hen house, in order to protect the hens from the fox.

A snake is a snake, a fox is a fox, and no matter what color dress you put on the fox, the fox will still eat the hens.

When our nation was still in diapers, struggling to gain independence from a then, and currently existing British orchestrated NGCC, we called on the Russians for help.

Russia sent soldiers, arms and gold.

The Russians came to our rescue when things were looking the worst, and aided the colonists in the birth of a new Republic.

Since then, the City of London Corporate Banking vampires have staged THREE world wars, and wormed their way back into corporate domination and enslavement of the usa.

The American people are enslaved DEEPER - and in a much more pressing situation than they were even in 1773.

Is it time to call on the Russians again?

Is it necessary to raze Wall Street, DC, the UN, and the Pentagon into rubble to get the attention of the NGCC parasites?

Perhaps.

Hudes has stated; "We are not going to arrest the leadership of the NGCC. Instead we are going to ask them to step down'.

Merit in that?

If you are playing poker, and you have a Royal Flush in your hand, what are the chances you will comply if the player with a pair of deuces politely asks you to leave the game?

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I Have One Very Big Important Question

Posted on January 16, 2016 by faction2lion

I have one very big important question.

Who is going to help us?

There must be at least ONE agency out there that can help us.

Which one is it; if we present ourselves properly?

There has to be some private entity operating on the down low that helps private citizen, American nationals etc.

There is a very long history as to just how we arrived at the point we find ourselves in.

That history includes each of us, and the choices we have made individually, and our collective history as a people, the choices we have made as a people, and as a nation.

All choices have results. One way or another one always gets what they ask for – or stated another way – you always get what you bargain for – depending on how you ‘work’ the bargain.

The fruition of a peaceful, positive, productive, co-existence among Human Beings requires a set of ground rules of which Human Beings must operate within.

You may be familiar with what is known as “The Golden Rule”, which is; “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.

Some time ago in our collective history, the Golden Rule for interaction between Human Beings was common knowledge.

Today, the Golden Rule, is rarely even mentioned, and very seldom practiced, even though the application of the Golden Rule, and the results achieved by practice of the rule, has proven itself over time to be a logical, positive choice for Human Beings to make.

What happened? Who or what led Humanity astray, and away from a process that truly serves and benefits Human kind?

Why would any rational Human Being, or grouping of Human Beings, throw out a process that has proven to flawlessly create harmony and balance among peoples and between nations?

Why would anyone in their right mind choose to throw a harmonious and balanced process into the trash bin of history – and trade it for war, subjugation, slavery, domination, and destitution?

It is a senseless choice made by senseless entities.

Who or what made that senseless choice for Humanity?

What has happened, is Humankind has been infiltrated by a predator species that serves only itself, and preys on everyone and everything outside of itself.

Some refer to this predator species as psychopaths or sociopaths.

I refer to them as the ‘predator class’ or the ‘destroyer class’, because the only goal of this predator species is total domination, and subjugation of the Human Race.

The predator species do not understand, ‘Do unto others as you would have them do unto you’. The phrase does not compute with them. They are not capable of processing that reasoning data in their android brains.

One of the reasons why this predator species has been so successful against the constructive welfare of Human Beings, is the very fact they are not Human.

They don’t experience emotions of love or compassion that Human Beings feel, so it is easy for them to become self-serving predators of the worst ilk.

Members of the predator species carry with them the mindset of an immature child, which displays itself in ‘all about me’ personality traits. Not unlike a two year old child, the sociopath demands of everyone and everything around them that “all the toys are mine”.

The predatory psychopath mind is actually a very weak, insecure mind, which like the Biblical Satan, strives to be worshiped. The deeply flawed logic of the parasitical, predatory, delusional, sociopath mind set is as such:

The delusional psychopath ‘reasons’ that if the psychopath can usurp all the power, control all the Human Beings, and accumulate control over all the gold, that Human Beings will have no other choice but to worship the psychopath, and the psychopath will have achieved their goal of dominating everything.

Today, every society on Earth is dominated by, manipulated by, and directed by this predatory force, which overwhelms the quality Human individuals within said society – simply because Human Beings who choose to ‘live and let live’ will not choose the senseless path of aggression, domination and subjugation.

The psychopath mind surfaces in all areas of societies, but predominately in the religious, political, military, and banking sectors of anti-human, uncivilized activity, because those four areas are all interdependent on one another, and the four areas where the psychopath predator can control the most people, usurp the most power, and steal the most gold.

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Consider the now Infamous Quote from Mayer Amschel Rothschild, a fiat banker from the City of London, and one of the most extreme cases of delusional predatory mindset:

“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”

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You will always find card carrying members of the predator species in positions of power, because to occupy positions of power, and exert control over Human Beings, is the only reason for existence, according to the sociopath’s creed.

Yet these manipulators, those directors, those controllers – would not know the meaning of The Golden Rule if it bit them in the leg.

The ‘directors and manipulators’ – the psychopath powers, either hidden behind the scenes or hidden in plain sight, are strictly self-serving entities who see Human Beings as toys to play with.

To the controllers, Human Beings, are nothing more than food, cannon fodder, profit centers, or completely unnecessary components of a system which belongs only to the predator controller.

The bonus of existing as a controller, is the controller sets the agenda for those he or she controls. It is the controllers who set the social example. It is the controllers who set the social agenda.

One of the accomplishments of the controllers, is they have been successful in instilling in the minds of Human Beings, that we must be led.

They have taught us that we are not capable of leading ourselves, and of course, they appoint themselves as our leaders.

When the self-serving, predatory controllers are allowed to set the agenda on social behaviors and choices – while we mistakenly look to them as leaders – the end product is of the same mind as the controllers who set the example.

The predatory controllers expect us to depend on them.

The psychopath controllers demand we depend on them.

The devious sociopath controllers purposely create situations which force us to depend on them.

The weak minded controllers NEED us to depend on them.

The controller buffoons NEED us to FEAR them.

To the predator species, our fear is their food.

The controllers need us to think, talk, and act like they do.

Is the controllers plan working?

Do we maintain a peaceful, productive co-existence between each other by practicing the Golden Rule?

Between peoples? Between Nations?

What have we become?

What have we allowed the controllers to mold us into?

Who do we look to for leadership?

What or who are our mentors?

Money?

Banking?

I’ve never known a banker that was in business to help people.

I’ve seen more than enough bankers who will act all warm and fuzzy and profess how much they ‘help the community’; but they lie.

Since the controllers end game is to dominate Human Beings, as opposed to serving Human Beings, a steady, ongoing, stealth theft of Human Beings productivity, is one sure fire method for maintaining control over, and enslaving Human Beings.

And that is exactly what the fiat, fractional reserve, banking industry accomplishes.

The bankers have coerced and subverted Humanity into dependence on their banking system, and now we are under their predatory thumb.

So who is going to help the American people, or Human Beings anywhere on Earth, to rid ourselves of the social and economic predator dominated situation we find ourselves in?

It won't be the United Nations, because the UN sits at the head of the Global Corporate Predatory System, or what Mrs Karen Hudes refers to as the Network of Global Corporate Control.

The United Nations is the legal corporate head of ALL the following institutions who were initially chartered by the UN.

The UN legally orchestrates these parasite banking institutions within the Network of Global Corporate Control, and it is the proceeds from the parasitism of the following institutions which provide the funding for the Network of Global Corporate Control:

It certainly will not be the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) or the Federal Reserve Bank (FED).

It won’t be the World Bank, or the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Don’t look to the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD), International Development Association (IDA), the International Finance Corporation (IFC), the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency (MIGA), or any of their representatives.

We will not see help from any of these banking corporations, because they are not in the ‘helping’ business.

They are in the predatory control business, and yet they micro manage every economy on the planet.

Right or wrong, lawful or unlawful means nothing to these predatory organizations.

They are all above the ‘laws’ they demand we abide by.

The ‘laws’ their puppet politicians put to paper are in place only to maintain control over Human Beings, and extort the productivity of Human Beings.

Human Beings will never be ‘helped’ by any agency who represent the controller factions, or any of the minions in those agencies.

The only alternative to the stranglehold corporate fiat bankers have over the economies of the Earth, is for Human Beings to develop their own economies outside of the predatory banking system, and stop feeding the parasitic, empiricist beast that is sucking the lifeblood out of us.

Of course, the corporate controllers will tell you “that is against the law”.

What they mean to say of course, it is ‘against their law’ they made for you, but does not apply to them.

But what does it really matter what the predatory controllers factions say?

There is no benefit in them. They don’t now – nor will they ever serve Humanity.

A waste of skin is a waste of skin.

The controlling psychopaths are senseless, mindless parasites, destroying our homes, stealing our lands, and destroying any civilized way of life we could ever hope for.

The lawless, sociopath controller thugs have no ground rules save for dominating everything or die trying.

At the end of the day, that is most likely what will have to occur.

Consider How Deep The Corporate Rabbit Hole Goes

Posted on January 15, 2016 by faction2lion

Look Into How Deep the Corporate Rabbit Hole Goes.

Why are so many willing to serve a predatory Corporation State without questioning the validity or morality of their chosen occupation?

Consider this:

There are thousands of Mini – Washington DC, Inc’s, all across America.

AKA: For Profit Incorporated State and Local Governments.

All pretending they ‘need taxes’ when their CAFR accounts already run into the billions of dollars.

http://tinyurl.com/hnfvchz

CAFR accounts are return on investments made by Incorporated State Governments, Cities, and Townships, using extorted tax payer dollars to invest, for profit realized ONLY by the incorporated body.

http://tinyurl.com/z3t8p3f

A CAFR account amounts to, in other words, local, state, and federal governments not only extorting your productivity for their operating budgets, but the lions share of the extortion booty collected is invested for an even larger return that multiplies in secret accounts most producers have no clue even exist.

http://tinyurl.com/jorbnm7

If you think getting through, around, or over the Corporation of Washington DC, Inc is a problem – think of all the incorporated States, Counties, Townships, Cities, Towns, and Villages which are ALSO registered as for-profit corporations.

From the bottom of the Corporate Parasite ladder of local incorporated villages, to the top of the Corporate Parasite ladder in DC, there exist literally millions of money-for-nothing parasites who make a daily practice of legally raping the real producers of the revenue they extort unto themselves, via ‘Statutory’ (in favor of the state) Corporate Regulations – (extortion schemes) – enforced by the local corporate ‘law enforcement’ officials who are literally acting as strong arm thugs for legal corporate extortion con artists.

Legal ‘incorporation’ is an idea conceived as a method for individuals to collect and hoard the ill-gotten booty in a game of financial rape, plunder, and extortion, of the producers – without having to be held personally, or legally responsible for the rape, plunder, theft, and extortion of those who produce the revenue.

“I did not steal your productivity, your gold, or your land. It was the Corporation who did it. I am just doing my job as an employee of the corporation”.

Since, in reality, a ‘corporation’ is nothing more than a Goddamned piece of paper, the enforcement thugs – tax collectors, Corporate Judges, BAR Lawyers, and Police agencies – are literally pirates of the ‘law of the sea’, stealing the producers – booty for themselves at the point of a gun or threats of incarceration in their incorporated for-profit prison system – or both.

Just think how deep the corporate rabbit hole goes, and why so many will defend the incorporated financial extortion, rape and pillage process, which the predators acting on behalf of the corporation claim is ‘the law’ which ‘must be enforced’.

If ‘fascism’ is defined as ‘for profit corporations controlling governments’ – what is it called when ‘government’ IS the for profit corporation?

Double indemnity fascist extortion?

Money for nothing for life is an ‘offer they can’t refuse’ for most people without a conscience.

Take a look at the caliber of individuals who jump in to fill those corporate parasite positions, on a local, state, or national level.

There you have it.

How many State Governors serve the people of the state, and how many serve the Incorporated State?

How many State Police serve the people of the state, and how many serve the Incorporated State?

How many County Sheriffs serve the people of the county and how many serve the Incorporated County?

How many Township Supervisors serve the people of the Township, and how many serve the Incorporated Township?

How many Mayors serve the people of the city and how many Mayors serve the Incorporated City?

One doesn’t even have to ask what body a Corporate County, a Corporate State, or Corporate Federal Judge serves.

Nor does one have to consider which body a Corporate BAR Lawyer serves, whose ONLY legal obligation is to serve the Corporate Court.

It is no surprise then, when the true ‘legal’ definition of a Corporate “Court of Law” – is a bank – or another extortion payola collection agency of the Incorporated Body, and the Judge is the Legal Paymaster of the Bank.

Is it now easier to understand why a politician ‘running for office’ to serve a term within an incorporated body is such a representative farce?

“Money for nothing and chicks for free.” is the Corporate local, state, national, and international extortion game.

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The Network of Global Corporate Control Jan. 5

https://youtu.be/GbRK575ReG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbRK575ReG0

Published on Jan 5, 2016 By Karen Hudes

Ending Martial Law - Exchange Federal Reserve Notes for Treasury Dollars in the Global Debt Facility Germany and Russia are allies with the United States minus the Federal Reserve

https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/dctvteleprompt1.5.pdf

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Re: Anna Von Reitz: Why Unrest of Any Kind Def....

Here is the newest reply from Karen Hudes.
Source Link: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter1.16.16.1.pdf

Global Debt Facility

January 16, 2016 By Karen Hudes

Dear Anna Maria Wilhelmina Hanna Sophia Riezinger-von Reitzenstein von LettowVorbeck,

The Board of Governors of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund and Board of Executive Directors of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development are not in default as I put a stamped envelope with a hard copy of the answer to your claims in the mailbox addressed to you and your husband at the same time as I posted the response on the internet.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter1.14.16.3.pdf

Why didn’t you even mention the fact that the scam of US debt is now ended because the Global Debt Facility has offset US indebtedness along with other countries’ debts against the Treaty of Versailles bonds held by the Global Debt Facility? This is a good thing, isn’t it? You should be happy about this, shouldn’t you? And your husband too?

You might have thought it worthwhile to find out whether indeed General Dunford was a member of the Knights of Malta. Most people that know what is happening know why this is important to know. You say that you are an impartial representative of people in the United States, yet you do not bother to inform yourself about the role of secret societies?

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/AmericanNewspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx

Martial law in the United States is not legitimate; it has been suspended and instead the United States is now in an interregnum.

General Dunford is no longer in command of the US government.

The person who called me up to arrange a meeting with General Dunford was most disappointed when I told him the same thing.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/dctvteleprompt1.5.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbRK575ReG0

Instead, the US is returning to its Constitution of 1789 under Article V thereof. US residents are exchanging Federal Reserve Notes with US Treasury Dollars minted by Ronald Reagan that are held in the Global Debt Facility.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/UBS+UNCUT.pdf

Ronald Reagan’s Grace Commission showed that US income taxes went entirely to service that scam called country debt.

http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metacrs9044/m1/1/high_res_d/IP0281G.pd

Then, the Treasury Dollars will be exchanged for currency called aurum out of gold reserves held in the Global Debt Facility.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/84359/new-way-hold-gold

The bankruptcy of the US occurred more than a decade before Jose Rizal and Ferdinand Marcos appointed the Board of Governors of the World Bank and IMF to abolish that scam called fractional reserve fiat banking as soon as the assets in the Global Debt Facility were held free and clear.

If you want to complain to somebody about the bankruptcy of the United States, you can blame the Network of Global Corporate Control identified by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

The Board of Governors of the World Bank and IMF and the Board of Executive Directors of the World Bank were not Trustees in the Receivership of the United States; you have entirely fluffed this essential point upon which your spurious claims rest.

Sincerely,

Karen Hudes Acting General Counsel International Bank for Reconstruction andDevelopment
Overseer Mandate Trustee, Global Debt Facility, TVM-LSM-666

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Wolfgang Struck comments on Karen Hudes latest news...

Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 15-Jan-2016 07:30:22

In Response To: Karen Hudes - Latest News (igots2no)

Hi Dimce.

Thanks for asking my view on it.

Here it is in a nutshell and you can use that: He who wants to believe will always believe.

Those who want to believe in KH will always believe in her little tricks.

In my view, KH has run in a corner with her little tricks where she cannot find the way out.

Maybe my fault.

I have given her too much information which she could not understand or put in the right perspective.

She is a Jew, you know?

Now she keeps on harping on the Global Debt Facility but does not know where it is, what it is, and who is holding it hidden from the eyes of the world.

I remember one of her favorite gimmicks, to bring the gold out of hiding.

She is a former Legal Counsel of the World Bank, is she not?

Apparently, she has not been in the office of the WB President where they can watch the gold in the tunnels of Marcos (same as in the office of the Chairman of the Federal Reserve System who is also the Chairman of the BIS in Basel, CH).

What this means?

It means, folks, that the elite people of this world (rumors have it that there are people other than Jews among them) know exactly how much gold is hidden in the Marcos tunnels and where it is.

They up there have a little problem, nothing to worry about. They know who is the owner, they have officially recognized code name TVM-LSM-666 as the owner of the gold and other precious commodities

(before George Bush Sr. and his Jewish cohorts took over the world in 1963)

but they have chosen to remain silent on this issue because nobody is asking stupid questions.

You get my point?

This means that the great majority of human idiots does not know and thinks and acts as if there was no massive gold backing the dollar and as if the dollar and the system has to fall because the FED has over-printed dollars.

No gold back-up? Huh?

In my good old home country in Germany you can read in every book that no more than 168,000 MT of gold was ever produced, mined, or minted since the beginning of mankind.

That is what they believe and they will not change their belief.

They also did not want to give up their belief that the earth is flat. Or that Neil Armstrong was on the moon in 1969.

Now, how stupid must I be to think that I can show you 172,000 MT (Metric Tons) buried in 1973 under the swimming pool of the Philippine Plaza Hotel by the beautiful Manila Bay?

In one piece/place compared to them all over the world?

You want to see? I have a deed of assignment for 1,715,000 MT of gold in favor of TVM-LSM-666.

Signed by Chiang Kaishek, Tschu Enlai, and Mao Tsetung. I must be really stupid. You know what?

I am rather stupid than dead.

Regarding geopolitics and dollars, I understand that the Russian Parliament has accepted the order of VP not to pay the $700 Billion owed to banks and companies in US friendly countries.

That's deadly. I would like to ask my fellow Germans whether they are a US friendly country or want to keep holding hands with the evil elite of US American war masters and their slaves like Angela Merkel, who is also a Jew. Don't tell anybody.

One thing should be understood.

Other than the perpetual liars in Washington (who predicted that a black President would be the worst ever?) the Russians make it official and everybody can read:

This is the unmistakable message:

Any US or allied (German) soldier in Syria will be shot dead on order of Putin.

Don't take it personal.

Just stay out of Syria.

That is our territory.

And from tomorrow the same is true in Iraq.

America ran away in Korea, in Afghanistan, and in Vietnam.

There was nobody to shoot back.

This is new. Better get used to it. Game Over!

We told you so. End of message. DUMA.

Wolfgang E. Struck

Representing TVM-LSM-666

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