Tony: We have some definite information here. If you want to hear exactly where we are today, and where to look for it and why, we will give you that up-to-date information and make it clear for everyone. [Thanking DC, Ray, Pam and the TNT team.] We give you guys the real info as we get it. We don’t work for any government agency at all. We have had our issues with them, but we are friends now, for the most part. Our goal has always been you guys. That’s how it started, and our goal is to give you the best information we can about the process, the timing, and what you should do once you get it. I always ask if the other sites are giving you information, or are they just complaining about what we are doing because they don’t have information of their own. I saw in chat and elsewhere that there is concern about what the billy goat is saying. Let me say this: we are not selling currency for anyone, we are just giving you information. The banks are very concerned about the amount of currency being sold, how taxes are to be paid, and all the rest, and they are having to restructure their deal on the fly. They have sold enough over the last eleven years to do what they need to do. Iraq can revalue at any point. For someone to come out and suggest that the government is telling us to tell you to buy more currency… that is ridiculousl.
Billy Goat is a former Army intelligence guy, and if that person keeps f**king with me, I will expose who you are. That person is trying to play you guys against the government, waiting to create a controversy. Our issue a year ago was about people getting contract rate while we get none. That is not the issue any more. We still have a chance at the contract rate, although not everyone will get it.
They are NEVER going to let us go in before the average Iraqi citizen goes in. It’s their country and they deserve to have it first! So some idiot saying last month that it was to happen any moment, and now saying that there is a conspiracy, and the politicians are getting paid but for us it’s going to be dragged out until June…. There are people we know who are exchanging and the process sis working. Everyday someone is getting paid is insurance that we will be paid. So someone going online and inciting us… there was no information on that post – none at all. All they do is tell you is what we said on our last call, and you can listen to that yourself! We tell you what is happening, from multiple sources, what’s coming out of Iraq and Holland, multiple banks, including memos, times for them to go in, rates on the screens. We’re not telling BS to get upset about and the government saying X or Y. They have asked us to be careful of what we are saying so that this thing can go through. The number of people getting the contract rate is much higher than I ever thought it would be, and it probably is the same percentage of those who have already been paid. I can live with that! There is no way everyone would get the contract rate – there just isn’t enough money in the world for that. In the real world, there are levels and they are still going to be there afterwards. You are about to get the same privileges, and will have to make that adjustment into a whole new world of thinking. You should be using this education and getting used to that, rather than paying attention to some billy goat that is trying to get you riled up about nothing. We are still in the process, and some will get the contract rates, which vary from 6-20+ dollars. We explained about the caps on the contract rates, so that more can get a taste rather than a few people getting all the pool. That’s fair! The only think I want to know is when is it going to be. It is going to be after the Iraqi people get to exchange. If they aren’t up in arms, complaining to their Prime Minister, then who are we to complain.
Someone is trying to stir you up, trying to get you to do something which I personally think would be wrong. This is not just about the money, it’s about a change in life for the Iraqis and for us. Pam and Winston are saying that the Goat is just trying to get some attention, and we don’t want to give that person that, but when a former Army officer is badmouthing the government, trying to get us to do something counter-productive, and then saying we have been directly hired to do something we have not – then I have to say something. We are here and are given information from people who respect us enough to offer us information behind the scenes. There are people who are upset, and who don’t see the key pieces. I don’t think there is one thing to be upset about today – I don’t! DC, let’s give them as much as we can give them.
DC: We are all human, get frustrated and we are all volunteers. Tony also pays for most of this, and for him to get ripped on is really just jealousy and ignorance. We are volunteers, and this is a voluntary call. If you don’t like what we say or it upsets you… this is a rough ride for us, and maybe for you. If you get upset, turn the darn thing off and wait for the tweet. We cannot affect this, so move on. For those who have done something useful in our lives, you understand responsibility. If you can influence others, you have to think about what you do and say. We have an audience of 1.3 million in 47 countries, so we have to be a bit more careful than some firebrand who can say anything they want. We have been asked to be a bit more sensitive, and we are doing that because we see the issues – and sometimes when that is just a coverup, we don’t. We cannot cause a riot because someone is pissed and we don’t have our big house yet. Have some perspective, sit back and relax. It’s a matter of perspective; if you want to be negative and a jerk, then hang up. If doesn’t bother me that you don’t like me – I’m not that impressed any more. There are many gurus who have good information and are trying to help out. Listen to them, knowing that no one knows everything. Not even President Obama nor Dr Shabibi or Dr Abadi knows everything.
If, in the meantime, you want to believe in all those jackass conspiracies, if you must have a negative perspective, then knock yourself out. But listen to yourselves and ask why you have to go there. Those who are paying attention know that we are not the new leaders of the cabal. Maybe you are scared or confused or you have put so much belief in one person… you have to get your own act together and get some common sense and a bigger perspective. You are volunteering to listen to this. If I were really interested in selling something, I wouldn’t be on this call! When this is over, and we get all the info in 15 years, you will see that they tried to do this well over 100 times. So we are in a heightened state.
Tony: I am talking about Mtn Goat when I said Billy Goat. That person, who is a man, used to be on our site. He came back as George – that is Mtn Goat. We didn’t say anything because it’s not our business. But I am not hiding behind another name, and when it comes to using us to create a name for himself, not giving people or helping the process or helping them grow or understand [and then attacking TNT], I just don’t understand that.
DC: You have to understand where someone is coming from. They are doing it from their own perspective, like that weird guy who did videos to scare Pam and me. Why were they doing that? To create traffic for their own website. I think it’s a crappy way to make money, crapping on other people. So if that’s how they do it, fine. Tony and I are not making money off this, we are all volunteers, and most of the intel sources are as well. It’s like yelling at someone who is serving you at the food kitchen – they are giving you food for free, so why are you ****ing because the food is too salty for your taste?
Onto information – it’s still very good. Not much has changed; we are sitting here right on the edge. Over the past 48 hours or so, and it will continue for the next few days, officials are trying to keep things calm in Iraq. They are so frustrated with this going on and on, that they are now going on a peace-keeping mission through out the country, saying this is really happening, do you have your plan, etc. That is within 4-5 days. They are doing it publicly in Iraq, in the mosques, different interviews, etc., and I don’t know how public it is. They are briefing the banks, etc. They did retake Tikrit, and there is a long arduous process to clear IEDs, etc. That is building confidence in the process. Parliament is meeting and MPs on all sides are highly frustrated. They are being asked to calm down. Everything else is where it needs to be, with very minor rate changes to see if that works. That is Iraq, Tony.
Tony: Yes, some people in Iraq have been paid, from the top down, and one day it will be turned on for the masses, just like here. When they get to the masses, we will also get paid. The PM himself is going from province to province, telling them when this is going to happen, whatever date that is. It’s a whole team of people doing that, led by Adadi, and they are educating people as they go. That was going on today as of this morning.
DC: In the USA and the rest of the world, the banks have reloaded the system several times in the last few days. They have done test exchanges over the last few days as well. Anyone who can listen knows that people are being exchanged, and of course we would all like to be at the bank. I hope they crank it up to 20,000 per day, and they can, they have full capability to do so. The papers Abadi signed last week say they can do that, and the big four banks are ramping up. Banks in other countries are doing so as well, mainly with test exchanges, mostly with one currency and a limited amount. Some are telling people to bring in all their currency, and others are saying only zim, only dong or only dinar today. Most are getting international rate in usable funds. I’m glad for them – why should we be mad at someone who got through the system, who is doing well?
Tony: The other day, the system connecting all the banks was hooked up, and that was needed for the masses to go. Bank security have been given their final briefing. Banks who didn’t know about this have now been told that they have employees who are already trained. We still haven’t gone, and it could be another few days, but all the final pieces have been put into place, and the banks have been authorized to do tests. They have also been authorized to set their own hours, so it may not be standard hours, depending on number of clients, etc. So they must have told them something for them to do that. So we are in a good position to go.
DC: It’s good! Oh, and what we were talking about earlier – that was just a jerk being a jerk and letting them know. We are not squabbling with any banks or agencies.
Tony: Here’s your favorite person, DC – and it’s One-question Wednesday.
404 caller: I understand that there has been notification from IMF that will expire on 2. April. Where do we stand in that window, and what might the consequences be for Iraq?
DC: Shabibi has done what it was supposed to do, and it’s now a matter of coordination and timing with the IMF and BIS. Banks have been sent notifications from IMF and BIS, then there was some paperwork to do, which they have completed. They then have to choose the best time, and the IMF/BIS juggles everyone’s wants and desires. They have some laws and memos to follow themselves. I would give everyone a few more days beyond that, just to be fair, but everyone is in sync with that process.
719 caller: I have been on here the last eight calls and every time we get to the end of the call I realized my hand had been taken down. I emailed the conference call company and they said there had been a glitch in the system. I thought maybe you guys had taken it down! DC, will you and your brother be able to exchange? You said we had to dress well and not use bad language… so you guys… I don’t know.
DC: I can clean it up when I need to – I had a grandmother prepared to slap me on the back of the head when necessary.
Caller; How old were you on your birthday? [Tony: 56.] Our dealer did exchange our 50 dinar notes, so that was good because he had to get them in by 15. April. Will our Easter weekend have any effect on timing? Will the banks have an issue with that?
DC: No. That banks may not show up for work, but it won’t slow down the RV.
Caller: How come we are not reporting Tikrit?
Tony/DC: It was in yesterday’s news that they took back Tikrit. The question is “why does it take so long to report it?” That is good news that they are doing it. If this is announced and it hits Forex, their timing is perfect, because it gives confidence in Iraq.
Caller: I am amazed at what Abadi has accomplished in so short a time!
Tony: Yes, all the changes in six months. We are proud of being American, and Abadi has set up a new system in six months. They never had Visa or MasterCards, or even checking accounts. It’s like giving a ten-year-old an account and telling him to wire 50K to England. The kid will say “just give me my money and I’ll keep it under my bed as usual.” They are doing this with 90-year-olds who have never had a bank account! And they have done this in six months!
Caller: As well as overcoming Maliki for eight years and Saddam before then!
Tony: And they had to change the whole mindset to repair streets, electricity, their own councils and make decisions with money on top of that!
Caller: Where do you really think/feel we are for timelines, without giving anything away?
DC: Bottom line I think that in the next 3-4 days we’ll be fine. In my former life, I have learned to watch what they do, how they do it, etc. The amount of actions taken so far is overwhelming. Yes, it could be delayed, but everyone around the world is ready, ready, ready. Iraq needs this so badly, and I think everyone is ready and willing to see this now.
Caller: If this hadn’t been delayed, people wouldn’t have kept buying. I know many people have been playing the reserve game, finding a little more money to buy.
Tony: Anything on that final call?
DC: It’s still a single 15-minute call, so far as I know.
970 caller: About the zim, just read about it on Wikipedia; the article gives the different codes and such. After this, I plan to buy a big house in the Rocky Mountains, and you can all come and chillax. It’s beautiful in the summer and in the winter there is skiing. Tony, we can smoke cigars on the deck and such. DC, if you could take my number, I’d appreciate it, because I would like to support the dyslexia project. Also, do you have any projected rate on the Afghani currency?
DC: $2.24
Caller: The NDA, is that about just keeping quiet on the rates? Or is it about currency in general?
DC: It depends. Those going through early have to sign an NDA to say nothing about the exchange at all. Exchangers don’t have NDAs. With the banks, anything above the street rate, you will have to keep quiet.
Caller: Is that just for what I get above the street rate? Or the whole currency exchange over all? Because I like to talk…
DC: You are thinking about it, and that is good. If you cannot keep a secret, don’t sign an NDA at all. I shouldn’t be a spelling teacher, because I’m bad at that.
Tony: The international rate is available to everyone around the world, so that rate is not really an issue. If you say that you got five times as much, then that is an issue.
Caller: I wouldn’t talk about the higher rate, but I do want to be able to say ‘dinar’.
DC: Saying dinar is okay because it’s the currency, internationally. You just should stay away from talking about rates. It’s more like “I should have bought Apple at $5.”
Caller: If the PTB want to surprise everyone, they should announce this during the call.
Tony: We let DC read the screwed translations from Google, then it comes out right!
713 caller: How can Abadi make a statement to his people that when the banks open there will have new value, and now it’s ten days later and…
DC: That is why they are very frustrated in Iraq!
Caller: You said “they asked Tony to do this call” – who is ‘they’?
Tony: No, DC asked who he should get involved with, and they said Tony.
DC: “They” are my friends, the people I used to work for and with. I volunteered. Tony had some connections in Iraq and a ton of contacts at the UST, and I thought I could add some richness to the intel group. I like to work with someone who laughs, and I asked around, and they said to contact Tony. I then volunteered for two weeks, and I ‘voluntold’ my friends that they would help as well. We have since attracted people who just blow my mind, and they come through that original seven or to me directly. Every person, group, office involved in the process we now have friends in.
Tony: We have contacts I could never imagined working with, people I never thought would know who I was and they send me messages. With that comes responsibility. We have always been responsible to YOU, and now I have people depending on me. We’ve always have a responsibility to the US, and now we feel responsibility to 47 other countries. We know we are affecting lives around the world, and we have to look at the effects of what we say and don’t say. We have influence, and have been sold several times that people care more about what we say because more people listen to us at many levels. We have to acknowledge that and be careful.
DC: We don’t get on the phone to withhold information. Very rarely, they ask us not to mention specific dates or times, so we don’t. A few of our sources are jerks, and we try to filter that as well. We tell you 99% of what we know. We try to be straightforward, but some people who have been too straightforward have burned their sources. I know the other gurus AND their sources. A lot of these people are very, very busy, and for them to take time to keep others informed and let us know that we are about to be wealthy… they are doing it to help others, and that is so neat that people are getting together to feed us that information. If they call and say they didn’t like X on the call, we pay attention, as you can imagine.
Tony: It IS One-question Wednesday.
410 caller: It is gorgeous on the East Coast. I’m glad you got to express some of that frustration so that we know you are human. I hope this is the last time we have to talk.
405 caller: I wasn’t sure you were talking to me or not! Are there any exchange centers in Richmond VA?
DC: Yes. You get another question – that was too easy!
Caller: DC, if you could ask Tony…
DC: Tony, how many times a day do you call me or Pam, on average?
Tony: We do conference calls 2-3 times per HOUR, then texts back and forth between the three of us, and then the rest of the intel team. Whoever is trying to do Facetime with me from 214, stop it! Our calls start at 4.30am until midnight, and I’m calling DC who goes to bed at 9pm EST, which is 6pm here, and he grumbles at me!
303 caller: I’m so sorry your lack of sensitivity cannot relate to the problems that Mtn Goat has to go through. When she moved to Bavaria, she was forced to wear leather underpants. Can you address to structured settlements; do they apply to non-contract rate settlements?
DC: Yes, to zim, and also to dinar/dong, but the caps are outrageously high. For example, if I have 50 million dinar and 100 million dong…
Caller: Do they give you the exchange rate on the same day and then pay out those totals over 20, 50, 100 years? Or do they exchange on the day of payout. And will there be interest on what they hold onto?
DC: First, you do not reach the caps for dinar and dong. I hear there will be 1-5% interest. You are making so much money, they don’t care.
Caller: If this is exchanged quarterly, do they exchange it at the rate on that date, or do they exchange all of it at the same time, and then they pay out the totals yearly, etc.
DC: If you exchange on 4. April and the rate is $0.13, you will get the whole amount exchanged at that rate, paid out over 20 years, say. You will be taxed on that yearly amount as it is paid out.
Caller: So if you have exchanged the entire amount, you have that credit at the bank, so won’t you have to pay taxes on the whole amount?
DC: No, because you don’t have access to that cash yet.
Tony: There two options for the structured payout. Let’s say you have 100 million dinar, and you want $8 as your rate. So they exchange $800 million, and they pay it out over 20 years. OR maybe they will offer you $8 on the first half, and then exchange X amount per week at whatever rate is then available.
DC: On zim they are pretty firm on structured payouts on over X amount; the rest we are not sure about, but it’s a possibility.
432 caller: Does Midland-Odessa TX have places to exchange? Can I exchange my zim at a brokerage firm? Because then I can get interest, right?
DC: I know they do, because I grew up there and I visit pretty regularly. Some brokers may open up to currency exchange, but with zim you will probably have to go to the bank because there are extra regulations. But yes, if you can exchange with a brokerage firm, then you will get interest.
954 caller: You spoke about the caps, but are there limits on any exchange? I thought that you said that once we hit that limit, then we can continue to make exchanges. I mean the total amount, not the dollar volume of the dinar or dong. Is the structured settlement on the zim 50 or 100 years, or do we get to choose how many years?
DC: For zim, it’s 50 or 100 years, but only 1% of people will hit that limit – it’s in the nose-bleed section. In terms of other limits, it depends on the bank. In one bank, it’s 50 million per week; another banks, it’s 25 million every three days. You will have to shop around, ask and add that into your calculations. Let’s say you get 20 million dinar at the contract rate, then you might have to continue to exchange at $4 this week, and then next week it might have gone down to $3.71, just as an example.
Tony: if you have $250 million or more, you may need a strategy; below that, no worries.
239 caller: I read that the US did make the deadline for joining the AAIB, and then I heard that they didn’t. Also, does Naples FL have exchange centers.
DC: That doesn’t affect the dinar. The US will have to join at some point, but they are negotiating some aspects. It’s a political issue about back deals that some people feel slighted about. They could choose not to join but that is not a smart move. Some feel that it’s not sufficiently regulated, and the US doesn’t like that China controls this with their lack of transparency and human rights problems. On the other hand, if you want to be part of investment and development in Asia, so it’s probably better to be in the AIIB. I’m a free-trader, and I think anything that promotes free trade is a good thing. It doesn’t really affect us. Yes, Naples has exchange centers.
281 caller: I hear something from a friend who has been in this for nine years. He said China had signed off on the 31st and given a two-week clearance. Is that significant?
DC: I don’t believe so. I think we know why they are holding it up and it’s got nothing to do with China at all.
Skype caller: I guess we are all just waiting. Iraq should just be doing this, so there must be other forces affecting this.
DC: The driving factor is pretty clear: IMF/BIS coordinating the timing. Iraq wants this now, and IMF/BIS have given windows in the next 4-5 days. They are taking into consideration global events and issues. Some want it Saturday, Thursday, other times, and of course Iraq has the priority.
Tony: The banks are ready, the rates have been set, the currency has been passed out in Iraq, they have announced many times that they will do this within a couple of days on their television; the banks over here have connected their system, briefed their WMs and managers, telling them procedures and policies, and given authority out at all levels. The banks have tested it and it is ready to go but it isn’t going. If it’s not them, it must be at a higher level, internationally, that is affecting the whole thing. Do you really think that someone at the White House (for example) is going to call two guys on a radio show and tell them that NOW is when it‘s going to go? Giving that information to all the bad guys? You are asking for the impossible. They will not tell us that final piece before it happens. We’re not going to get it and if we did, we wouldn’t be able to tell you.
DC: It’s not the US doing this; it’s the IMF+BIS. Yes, the US has influence, but so does the Bank of England and other banks. The US doesn’t have as much authority as it did, and that continues to diminish on a daily basis.
254 caller: I assume Austin will have exchange places?
Tony: Go to the nearest bus stop.
Caller: If you had dinar, dong and rupiah and go in to exchange, if the total comes to a cap limit, will that then trigger structured payments?
DC: The zim is the one they are concerned about, and otherwise only if you have an insane amount of dong, dinar and rupiah (in that order). If you don’t want a structured payment, they will probably tell you to come back the next week.
Tony: These guys are working together to establish the cap, did you see that?
Caller: I appreciate that you guys have character!
DC: Hope everyone is doing well. Iraq is coordinating with BIS+IMF and this should go in 4-5 days. That’s what they are briefing all over the world. That could change, so for the love of God, don’t buy any more currency, especially zim. I know that some people don’t want to listen to the griping, but we do feel responsible, and we are trying to do what’s best for you all and for our sources as well. We don’t want to be a problem inside the process. I hope you have a great few days (you all).
Pam: I think you all did enough talking today! I will remind you guys to talk to your professionals. Make sure you have a good team and I’ll see you on the other side.
Tony: Everything I said at the beginning of this call, I know that some people were upset at my cussing, but today was a special day. That frustration needed to be addressed so we did that. Everybody is ready to do this, and they have a new window that is being broadcast over there. Abadi is addressing them, province by province. All we can do is tell you what is being said to the people and what the banks are being told. We can understand it, help you plan it, and that is our purpose. We’ve have some good news since we got on the call. Today is April Fool’s and if they had announced it today most of you would have thought it was a joke! We do respect everybody. Do go look at what the other gurus say. We don’t know it all, and they bring things between calls. If it doesn’t make sense, then don’t get into an argument with an idiot; they will beat you with experience, and they have been idiots longer than you. The rest of the week should be more information about this being about to happen. If you are not prepared, spend time getting prepared, because I think this is about to surprise you. Enjoy the rest of your day and I hope to talk to you soon.
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