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3-18-15 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):

Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#

http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=67356858

Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, March 18, 2015. I hope everybody’s okay. We’re going to have a super-fantastic call today – not the 800 numbers but a wealth of information, and DC will tell you when to expect then. I didn’t expect to be here on March 18th. There is a lot of great news. We are not promising anything, no crystal ball, but it’s all looking good.

DC: Bottom line, everything looks good. We are in a beautiful spot. They continue to line up everything else. On television, they announced stage four of the economic reforms. Everyone in the world just waiting for the big man to pull the trigger. Iraq is having in-country… Tony, could you read that?

Tony: This is NOT being shown on Iraqi television here, but on their television there: “Stage 4 of the economic strategy has begun. They are starting celebrations today for Iraqi soldiers for driving ISIL from Iraq and also to celebrate the final stage of the economic strategy.” DC will tell you what we couldn’t say on Monday….

DC: That is pretty blatant. There are celebrations while the UN folks are in town, both for Da’ash and the economic reform. The Council of ministers, Federation Council and their military are expecting this right now. No, they haven’t paid everyone, but a large number over the last week. They haven’t paid everyone in any specific town, which is causing a lot of problems, but they will get over that quickly. They have started to change over to the rate of $3,91 on the Qi cards, to contractors, past payments, paymernts to provinces, to widows and orphans and everyday people in the northern and southern provinces. They are now starting that in Baghdad. They have not started the RV because we still don’t have money, but they are in the process.

They are saying on television that the completion of economic reform will be finisihed in the next day or so, and they are educating some of the clerics and elders who can help explain the situation and help citizens in this process. They are doing this slowly and methodically.

Tony: Monday they started in the outer provinces, clearing Da’ash and paying people. They are starting from the out in, and one reason is to make sure ISIL doesn’t get their hands on this money. They have now started in Baghdad.

DC; We don’t know how long it will take. They are having ongoing meetings, feeling their way. Abadi and Shabibi have an idea of what thye want to do, but are feeling their way forward, and it’s in their hands, to choose.

Tony: Pam says people want to know how many stages there are. Last week they said the economic reform has been completed, and maybe they meant the government part was completed, and now they are saying stage four has begun; that means they are actually paying the citizens. We know people got it on the cards, and we know that today was special—DC was trying to avoid this the other day.

DC: They asked us not to talk about that! It’s a good day, everyone is on call and locked down. They announced it in the mosque and on the radio that there is a special celebration tonight. We are not betting the farm on this, but that is what they are saying, with private exchanges inside Iraq and some public changes.

Tony: We don’t’ have a crystal ball and we’re not telling you things that others don’t know.

DC: It has been announced, and Tony and I are trying to be respectful and helpful to the whole process. At times we are asked not to mention specific things, and we don’t. Today we were asked to be ‘very sensitive’ without being told what to be sensitive about. We are really pumped, though.

In the USA< everyone is on alert and on call. They have been waiting and running tests, which means exchanges, but not massively. Tier 2 banks have been testing as well, and everything is ready to go. We are just waiting on Abadi and Shabibi.

Tony: In order not to get DC in trouble, let’s talk about exchange strategies. For people who haven’t been on, tell us what you’d like to do with your money, of your experience with this. We’re in a great, great place, and could go over the top otherwise!

516 caller: People out there have been telling us how they have been suffering, with people dying, losing their houses and such. A few people are saying how they will help others. Many people only have one 25K dinar note, but I do know a way they can help many thousands of people. I am on Facebook and Linkedin, and I copy and paste one of DC’s positive messages, and then I tell them to go spend $50-80 to buy dong, to buy what they can. That will help many, many people. Unfortunately the politicians have taken most of the contract rates, over a year ago, but that should give them confidence that this will actually happen. What do you think? Is that a good way to help people?

Tony: I don’t know what to think

Caller: Tony, I’ve never heard you speechless!

DC: I think it’s a good idea to help as many as you can, but some are going to see only the surface, that this is some kind of hare-brained scheme. Some will see that it’s worth gambling a few bucks, so I guess that is helpful. I think it’s a good idea.

Tony: He was talking about making it more public afterwards, right? I was distracted because I was dealing with texts saying they couldn’t hear the call, but there are 30,000 on the line.

574 caller: I want to ask about the news that came out yesterday online in the NY Times about three more European countries that joined the Asian Intrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB).

DC: I am a global investment guy, so I’m all for it. It expands the world market, so I’m for it, rather than protecting individual markets.

Caller: I have general plans in three areas. My husband is dyslexic, so we have interest in that, but also education in general. Also, there is a millionaire in Orlando who took a poor neighborhood nears his hotels and gave scholarships to every kid who graduated from high school. The graduation rate shot up, and people started moving into that neighborhood, which was in decline. I live in Missouri; we’ve had some problems here, and it could be done here and in other states for not too much money.

Another area is health. My mother lives out in the boonies, and what would help her is a small holistic healing center, connected to the local hospital, and also to the nearby Indian reservations. That would help them directly and also there could be research.

I love birds, especially robins. My family does a lot of hunting and fishing, and we believe in keeping the environment clean. I’d like to clean up polluted water, especially the runoff.

DC: I really like your contribution points – thank you.

Tony: I really like transforming the neighborhood. Everyone else, don’t do it next to your big hotel or resort until you see the benefits!

423 caller: About the exchange process, we were wondering about holding some of our dinar back. When we make the call, they will want to know how much; should we hold some back for leverage? I understand zim will be exchanged everywhere, but…

Tony: I would tell them everything I have, and see the best deal they can give me. IF you are going to be price comparisons between banks, then I want to compare apples with apples. When it comes time, I might say “This is what I have, but this is what I will give to you because of what you offered me.”

Caller: Will everyone exchange zim?

DC: We don’t know. At first, only a thousand people had zim, and now many more have it. It’s like the contract rate – they don’t want all that many people to have that much money. Some bankers are saying “minus six zeroes x 15 cents” across the board, and others are saying that rate up to a certain amount, and then one penny. I will go in with my best hand showing in this deal, saying, “what can you do for me?” On the other hand, if you have a lot, the smarter play might be to divide it out so no one knows how much you have. It depends on who you are talking to and how comfortable you are with them.

Tony: If it were me, and I have 100 million dinar, or 100 x 100 trillion zim notes, and they say “I’ll give you the highest rate up to 20 million, and then drop the rate”, then common sense tells me to tell the rest over that cap to other people so that they can get the higher rate. Why would I give that extra money to the bank, when they know exactly where it is and the bank knows what I would do with the money. It doesn’t make sense for me to exchange it for a tenth of the higher rate they are giving me for the first chunk.

Caller: It’s like I said earlier about the Romanian currency… we just don’t know when.

Tony: It doesn’t make sense to me that they would do that. We are just looking at all the different scenarios. DC, we need to go back and clean up something. With our first caller, when I was all distracted, he was wanting to tell everyone on FB so that they can all run out and buy more, is that right? I don’t know if everyone on FB knows, but I’ll tell you what happened yesterday. I got a text from this guy Fox40, an investigative reporter who wants to make this the blockbuster of their series. Guys, we don’t want that. I don’t’ want it, and that is why we are signing NDAs. I certainly don’t want it on FB, Instagram and all the rest. That just dilutes our opportunity and the rates. I’m sure you’ve already told the people you are close to, and they have looked into it, and they have bought it if they are going to. If they wanted this to be public, they would have publicized it themselves. If we wanted to make it that public, we would be wlaking up and down the street handing out dinar notes ourselves.

DC: I think most people will not take up the opportunity. For a lot of us, this will not be the only thing we will make money from. If you listen to the right folks, you will make a lot more money anyway.

Tony: We have been talking about this for five years on the radio. When everyone came to meet me on Friday, they were shocked I had not told the cigar guy. But that’s my quiet place! If I told people and they didn’t buy currency, then I’m not giving them a dime. They had the opportunity, and they chose not to take it; they didn’t go through t\he fire like we did. You just told that guy to blast all over the internet – no, I don’t think so.

323 caller: Did you just say that you will call all the banks, tell them what you have, and see they will do for you?

Tony: Sure, and I would tell them I’m talking to other banks, too. I’m not playing games. It’s just like buying a car; it’s not my first time buying a car, and of course I’ll go with the best offer. I’m giving the banks the opportunity to compete, that’s all!

DC: That’s what I’ll be doing as well.

717 caller: I have a comment for the first caller: so you’ve just advertised to hundreds of people on Facebook that you are a millionaire… really? We are about to go away fro a week. We did this a year ago, and took our currency with us, but decided not to this time in case it gets stolen. Do you think we should maybe take the zim? We are concerned that the rate might drop. Will we have to take in the zim at the same time?

DC: You can do whatever you think best. You might get a better rate if you take all of your currency in at the same time, but you don’t have to – you can take in to the bank in chunks. In my opinion, zim will drop fast, so you want to go in and out fast. If you a re paying attention you’re going to do better at this. I would bring in as much as you feel comfortable with. I assume you can get back quickly if you need to?

Tony: I would never EVER put currency in my checked luggage.

DC: When friends say they leave it on their desk – what are they thinking? Treat it like cash dollars, and protect it for the amount it will be worthy. We should be doing a 15-minute call with the 800 numbers for the big banks. Tier 2 banks may have contract rates as well; we should be able to tell you that for sure on the call.

Caller: So you can take parts of your money to different banks?

DC: Sure, unless you have signed an agreement that says otherwise, you shop it like you do anything else in life. Banks have been told to be competitive, and the staff has been told to ‘get the money’. So…

Caller: You asked what we have learned, and I have learned not to trust. I have watched how the media has fed us what they want to teed us, and that there is a hand behind that. I trust my gut a lot more. Money and power both corrupt. I’m not judging, but I will be rich, and I’m sure it will be harder than I expect. If the powers want to get some good will back, they will allow you to have the events, so that we can meet you and you can meet us…

Tony: You are absolutely right about the media. I got a call last night about Da’ash, and they clearly said that our media is seven days behind what is really going on in Iraq, on the ground. They only want us to know certain things, for sure.

DC: Tier 2 banks have been tested in many different areas, and they are ready. We don’t know if they will have contract rates or not. Be sensitive because they have NOT had the years of training that the big banks have had, and they are having to come up to speed very rapidly. They only got a rate yesterday, so they are still in shock.

About the politicians, please be sensitive as well. We don’t fully understand all the aspects of what they are dealing with. But as someone who has seen the guts of the system in many countries, most are doing the best with what they have. Yes, there are some dirty politicians, but it’s also important to see why things have been blocked or delayed. We have a walk a mile in other people’s shoes, and that’s why I think it’s important to understand everyone’s perspective in this.

Caller: I notice that some people are retiring, including a 33-year-old who is stepping down…

Tony/DC: He is for a whole other reason! About the museum, we’ve already got the computers, the transcripts, the meetings, and we just need a place. We’ve already done most of the work, but we also want to know how the people feel.

DC: But we also want access to what the President was thinking, be it our own, or Abadi, or Maliki.

410 caller: It’s a great day! My husband and I have a reserve with Sterling; should we pay it off early and have them send it to us? I feel a little nervous about it being sent.

DC: My personal opinion is that this thing can go really quickly, and I’d be nervous about this being in the mail. That’s just me – I don’t want to think about it being stuck in Memphis or wherever.

Tony: They did say they would send it after the RV, or they will personally deliver to you. However, as DC says, I wouldn’t want it to be this close and I’m wanting to setting up my appointment and then waiting on receiving it. Sterling says they will be competing with the banks on the rate, so it might be easier to have them exchange it.

Caller: Will having it in hand give us a better shot at the contract rate?

Tony: Yes. If not contract rates, you can push for a different rate.

Caller: So he is right and I am right! Are you sure this isn’t Car Talk?

Tony: Have a number of strategies so that when this pops, you have a lot of good strategies to choose from. If X, then Y; on the other hand, if Z, then A.

Caller: You didn’t mention rates.

Tony: If you say you have 100K dinar, you will probably get $3.91. If you have five million dinar, you could get anything from $5 to $28. I don’t know. The banks can break that up any way they want.

Caller: Yes, we have a lot to discuss. Has the rate for the dong been settled?

DC: We don’t know what we have to be sensitive about, but it’s a good rate.

Caller: [Appreciation] My friends listen all the time, and they told me to say that you’ve saved their lives.

Tony: I thought sure that was a proposal to DC – you know he is married, right?

863 caller: About Sterling and taxes – I am Florida, and if Sterling does the exchange, will we have to pay Georgia income tax?

DC: That is not really clear; it’s a state by state issue and we don’t have a good answer for that.

Caller: That’s why I was wondering, because GA has 12-13% income tax, so maybe I should pay off the reserves and have it sent to Florida where there is no income tax.

DC: I would be very cautious in my planning, both in how much you set aside for those taxes, and where you do the actual exchange. If you have ten million, that’s a big difference. We’ve been told it’s a state-by-state decision about whether they count that as a simple transaction or if it’s doing business in that state.

Caller: In terms of setting up trusts for my kids, what is the best strategy?

DC: I’m not an attorney or accountant, but… if the contract rate is available, get in and out as fast as you can. However, if you are looking at international rates, it’s very much better to put the currency into the trusts while the value is low. I’ve put money in trust for my kids at 1166, and then it will avoid gift tax, but it will appreciate and be ready for them when they are older. As minors, though, I would put money into the trust before you exchange anything – lower value means fewer tax problems.

Caller: I did give them gifts and gift letters at Christmas, but this is more. As minors, I can do the exchange for them.

610 caller: I did a PSA last Friday – did the donations pick up?

Tony: I asked people to hold off because I hope that this will happen before something else happens. I am trying to stretch it out til Friday because I hope this will happen first.

Caller: I look forward to seeing everyone at those four events, especially Winston!

DC: I am a first-class groveler, so I will try. If not, I think my assistant has already picked out a picture of a body builder…

Tony: If he can’t be there, we will at least have a DC cutout.

407 caller: I’ve been trying to get on for two years! [Appreciation] I have learned so much listening to you over the last two years. I have a request. You remember that lady a few calls ago who put Ray under the bus because we couldn’t get on OpenMike? Can you give him my information so I can get to his workshops after the RV? I have no way to contact him.

Tony: Why don’t I just give you Ray’s number? Those OM people are special. I am writing your number down and I’ll give it to Ray afterwards.

Caller: I have emailed him, and never got a response. I do have a zim question; will people over there be able to exchange like we are here?

Tony: No. They will get the economic benefit, but they will not get the same rate we do.

Caller: I will tell that to my friend in Zimbabwe. Is there any way for my sister to listen to the previous calls? She and I are not on the forum; Pam had already closed it.

Tony: I will give Pam your number, too. I know the calls are someone on the forum, but I don’t know where. I don’t do that stuff, but I’ll give them both your number.

Caller: I admire your patience in answering the same questions over and over again.

DC: We answer those questions because maybe we didn’t answer clearly enough or maybe people need to hear it again.

Tony: OM people, I do adore each one of you and didn’t really compare you to anyone in Texas. Every birthday and anniversary, OM has a special celebration or us, and we thank you for that!

281 caller: Are we going to play golf at these events?

DC: I play, but I’m miserable at it.

Tony: I have golf clubs, but I’ve never played. Do you really want me to play my first game in Vegas?

Caller: [Appreciation] We’ve got projects in Africa, Indonesia, Vietnam and in the US as well. This money will allow us to empower the operations we have been doing for 40 years: feed more orphans and widows, provide more education, changing people, not just giving them fish but the ability to catch and clean the fish. You can always do more when you’ve got more, so we are excited about that. For 40 years, I’ve been all around the world with people of different backgrounds and religions, helping where I can. I have plans in Indonesia; will they be exchanging at $3.91 there as well? Of course my business partner there will want to maximize his return over there.

DC: It will be the international rate wherever you exchange -- $3.91 to the US dollar. It will be a similar rate to their local currency. They can change it to dollars in Indonesia if their local laws allow it. It will be the same as changing their pounds or euros or any other major currencies.

Tony: It will no longer be an exotic currency.

DC: Whether your partner can exchange in the US depends on his particular situation. My law enforcement buddies are a little concerned about foreign nationals exchanging in the US; for contract rates, we did hear a six-month residence would be needed.

903 caller: This has been an awesome ride.

254 caller: The other day, there was a gentleman who said that Shabibi could beat the hedge funds with a $16 rate.

DC: Shabibi did say that he could support a $16 in a press speech a few years ago. He said that Iraq could support that, but I don’t think he will. If he did, I think Shabibi would have to pick us all up off the floor.

Caller: Have you heard anything about the big groups?

DC: I am not too familiar with the groups. I only know about the Admiral’s group, and I do know there are some bad groups that will take your money and take off. Pelase do NOT give your dinar to anyone!

Caller: If there is a paymaster involved, how long before we find something out?

Tony: Don’t’ get me started on that. I have explained about that many times. You will live to regret it, with bank accounts frozen, people arrested and law suits everywhere, and all. I already know that some are well on their way with that.

936 caller: You said that there are four phases of this… were there more than four?

DC: In Iraq, they were saying there were basically four phases: the first was to get all the laws passed, the second to pay the past debts paid in the provinces, the third is paying the contractors, and the fourth is paying the citizens and then us. So we are probably next. There is no news on taxes, and I’m as confused as ever on taxes.

Caller: We heard that one group has the tax rates in their agreement… and it’s lower than capital gains. We heard about half of the two capital gains rates.

DC: I did hear that, and that it’s somewhere between long-term and short-term capital gains. The only one I’ve heard was 30%, from credible sources. I don’t’ think anyone will know for sure until after the RV and sometime further down the road.

Caller: So we think we’ll just leave 50% in the banks to cover that.

DC: Banks will make their own decisions. They may bump up the rate; that is part of the negotiation. Whatever they expect you to keep in their bank will be after setting aside your money for taxes.

Tony: You can set an escrow account for taxes.

DC: You can also put that tax money into something super-safe like a money market account or a CDARS account, so that it will be safe.

Caller: There is a Swiss bank in Houston; do you know anything about that bank?

DC: There are several Swiss banks with branches in Houston, and I’m very comfortable with them. The more speculative tax-sheltering programs have been cut out in the last few years, but the Swiss banks are well-run and regulated, so I trust them. They are good at international business. All the big banks and investments will help you invest overseas once you get past a certain levels. You don’t’ have to go to an international bank to handle that; it’s who you are comfortable and who you trust. All the 800 numbers will be for the big four banks and their foreign currency departments.

951 caller: Do you think this thing will happen any time soon? People are getting frustrated at all the hype talk. My phone is on my nightstand, waiting for the blessing and it never came…

DC: All of us in this game and in the process are highly frustrated by the delays. I do believe that we are very, very close. I don’t know everything, but everyone I’ve talked to in Iraq and Europe are in the exact same mentality.

Caller: So we should be this before the end of March?

DC: It had better!

Caller: If you have three currencies and three banks, where do you put the tax money?

DC: In California, the overall taxes will be about 58%, right, Tony? Set aside that amount at least.

Tony: It doesn’t matter how many currencies you have or how many banks; you will be taxed on the total dollars you end up with. We were told some time ago that the dinar might be taxed differently; we haven’t heard that lately. But it’s about how much money you have, not how many banks it’s spread across.

304 caller: I’m in West Virginia and there is only one of the big banks here. Will there be somewhere to exchange in the state? [Appreciation]

DC: I know there are several tier 2 banks that will also be able to exchange there. How many are in your city – 90,000? Charleston will have exchange places.

405 caller: You are saying that the US is not dragging this out?

DC: As of the last two months, No. They have cautioned several things, but it has clearly been in Abadi and Shabibi’s hands in the last few months. They do take counsel from other countries including the US, but the US is not in charge.

We are very, very close. Everyone in Iraq is ready for stage four, which is us. They continue to pay folks out at $3,91. The US banks are ready for this to go down at any moment, as well as the rest of the world. They expect this to go in the next several days. Don’t do anything silly or go out and buy more dinar. We will continue to give you information as we get it.

Pam: I am here, just wanted to keep out of the discussion about letting people on the forum. You did really well at One-question Wednesday – not! Remember, we may not be right, but TNT is never wrong. All we do is report what we are hearing. We don’t make this stuff up, we just report it. We are the free press!

Tony: This is Why-not Wednesday for Ray. You have the information ; we gave you everything apart from the exact rate and any particular time. All systems are go, all lights are green, everyone is on standby – we cannot be at a higher state of readiness. All our sources and our intel team are ready and telling us to be sensitive and not to go over the edge. I hope that if we have to have a conversation on Friday it will be a different conversation, and I hope to have it before then. WE have never been THIS close before, and we’ve been ten minutes away. No one is fussing and fighting, and some people are getting ready to celebrate over there. Let’s see what happens; if it goes, we’ll send you a tweet. Otherwise, enjoy your day!

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