I know it is an ongoing question. I don't know how long it has gone on and it may continue to go on for as long as there are minds to raise questions. It is not an ongoing question for me. I have answered that question to my own satisfaction and that is all that matters, or all that should matter. We are not here to work out other people's crises of faith. I say crises of faith because, regardless of whatever assurances anyone might have, at some point it comes down to faith. Faith is the last step that ignites the flame of enduring awareness that is seated upon a bottomless well, filled with the oil of eternal love. That step of faith is sometimes a leap of faith because the gulf that must be traversed, varies in relation to whatever lingering doubts are possessed by the one faced with the crossing.

By now you have probably guessed that the question is whether a divine being exists or not. For some there is no question about it; God absolutely does exist or... there is no god. The belief that there is no god is as irrelevant as was the argument concerning whether the Earth revolved around The Sun or The Sun revolved around the Earth. What is true concerning that has been effectively proven in a scientific manner and is no longer in doubt, except where doubt is the objective.

There are places where people still put out bowls of fruit to appease the god of thunder, or rip the hearts out of sacrificial victims in order to satisfy the blood lusts of demons who are worshiped as god. Both of these events still occur, though they may be cloaked as something else. That's how they like to do it in these modern times. They conceal it as something else. One example of that would be the routine, ritual murder of The Palestinians by those who stole their lands and their identity and now present themselves as the original people from that location, which they are not. They have a contract with The Demon Kingdom and must provide the blood of innocents that the demons drink from the sands where they are murdered.

Now... as far as whether god exists in a way that can be scientifically proven, well, that has already been done. As you should know by now, since we mention it often enough here, physicists have proven that the universe is thought born. What else can that possibly mean? It most evidently means that there had to be an original thinker and there had to be a mind capable of generating existence through the power of thought. Is this not proof? Sure... defining the ineffable, that is going to be uh... heh heh, impossible, now and forever more but that there is such a being, however mysterious and incomprehensible it might be, that is no longer a matter of doubt. It is only a matter of denial.

99.99% of the time, when you ask an atheist or an agnostic why they have the perspective they have, they will mention religion. Even I, with my limited grasp of the subject, can shoot as many holes in that apples and oranges debate as I can in the NIST explanation of what happened on 9/11. Now, of course, just because something can be proven means nothing to those who prefer to argue, no matter what the facts may say. By example we have that particular retort that has been heard in several locations in recent times by 9/11 deniers; “even if it were proven to be true, I still wouldn't believe it.”

It bothers the faithful all over the world, in many different ways and at many levels of intensity that there is such a large portion of the world that does not believe in god; more specifically, their god. In many cases, all that bothers them is that these others do not believe in their god. This means they believe in some version of god but their faith only exists within the confines of their own particular- and in some cases- peculiar tradition of scripture and ritual. Everything outside of that is wrong, misled and might as well be atheistic because it certainly is heretical. I'm guessing we all know what has happened to heretics at certain times. As far as modern day expressions of dealing with heretics goes, one has only to look at what is happening to Christians in Africa at the hands of Muslim fundamentalists.

The whole matter is drenched in irony. One example is that the majority force behind the financing and promotion of atheism are the so inclined Jews. Supposedly Judaism is a religion. Okay... Satanism is a religion too and Judaism is a version of that ...just as is Scientology and all kinds of other organizations from O.T.O. to any number of New Age curriculums. Unfortunately, most of the major religions presently qualify as Satanism. I don't think I need to go into how that happens to be true. Let me simply say, “by their works ye shall know them.”

This isn't recent. This has been the case for centuries and therein lies the fallacy of using religions as evidence that there is no god. Certainly, a sincere seeker who searches after the ineffable, within the confines of any religion, can find the ineffable. A true believer can be transfigured by the preaching of a total charlatan or mountebank, if their faith is real. Many an Elmer Gantry has brought a seeking soul to Jesus Christ. That is just one of the curiosities of the whole dynamic.

Let's move on to why any of this got brought up today here. If god is a proven, though an impossible to define or comprehend entity, then what should be the number one concern of anyone who has ever lived or who is presently alive? That would seem to me to be a no brainer. It would, of course, be one's relationship to the almighty. If the divine is real then what else should one be doing with their time? It seems clear to me that people rationalize away this truth in order to make accommodations for lifestyles built around physical attractions, personal desires and appetites. That is what it comes down to and once we have lied to ourselves and... that is what any accommodation of convenience amounts to, that lie begins to replicate into everything we do. Once the initial deception is set, it is all downhill from there and whatever religion one engages in gets bent to accommodate as well. The good news with that, if it is good news, is that it has already been bent for these very reasons. You may not find it in the original scriptures, should you have access to them, but you will definitely find it in the interpretations and footnotes.

By now, anyone in possession of a brain should be able to see to what extent the organized church is in bed with their depraved and demonic government. Let me further mention that what is taking place between the church and state in that bed is not for the faint of heart. What other conclusion can we come to when we observe what it is the parishioners are exhorted to do and programmed to believe by their priests and pastors?

Why does the corruption, on the one hand, continue to get worse and worse and on the other hand, continue to get more and more exposed? It is The Apocalypse. It is for the purpose of judgment and for the purpose of demonstration. This is a regular occurrence in the cycle of events within any age. Do you want to know what time it is? This is what time it is. Part of me would love for it to be yesterday- meaning much further back than yesterday and some portion of me would like it to be tomorrow; some kind of new tomorrow but... it is what it is. We are who we are and we are where we are. It is what it is. What it is we may not be completely clear on but... it still is what it is, just like the rotation of The Sun and The Earth and the existence of God.

Alright then. If God is Real, then it goes without saying that nothing and no one is more powerful than God. It goes without saying that no one, no matter how independently it seems that they operate, is outside of the sphere of the influence of the divine. The power of the divine is greater than the massed power of everything else put together.

What does all scripture say? It says that God is merciful and forgiving. We have heard that God is Love. We have been told that God is friend and lover, Mother and Father. We have been told that God is the origin of our being and the final resolution of it. What conclusions and direction can we draw from all of this? I will leave that in your hands.

There is no greater occupation or objective than the pursuit of the ineffable. There is no more rewarding pursuit. There is no more profitable pursuit and there is no such thing as hyperbole in this regard. Words fail and I will take my leave of them at this point.

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