AN EXPLANATION OF THE FACTIONS  
 

[ DONATE TO RMN ] [ View Thread ] [ Archive Search Page ] [ RMN Reading Room ] [ CGI Media News Room ] [ SUBSCRIBE TO RMN ]

RMN is Reader Supported

Our Goal for
JAN 8 - FEB 5:
$2500

Powered by FundRazr

Click Widget
or Click Here to contribute.

Checks & Money Orders:

Raye Allan Smith
P.O. Box 95
Ashtabula, OH 44005


Users Online:
165

Who Founded RMNews?


Dewitt Jones' Video
"Celebrate What's Right
With The World"


"When the
Starships Fly!"

Listen at YouTube


The Theme for The Obergon Chronicles

Listen at YouTube


The Obergon Chronicles ebook


RUMOR MILL
NEWS RADIO


CGI ROOM
Common Ground
Independent Media


WHAT ARE
THE FACTIONS?


THE AMAZING
RAYELAN ALLAN


BIORHYTHMS

LOTTO PICKS

OTHER WAYS TO DONATE


CURRENT MOON




RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENTS WHO'VE BEEN INTERVIEWED ON RUMOR MILL NEWS RADIO

______________

NOVEMBER 2008

Kevin Courtois - Kcbjedi
______________

Dr Robin Falkov

______________

Melinda Pillsbury Hr1

Melinda Pillsbury Hr2

______________

Daneen Peterson

______________

Daneen Peterson

______________

Disclosure Hr1

Disclosure Hr2
______________

Scribe
______________

in_PHI_nitti
______________

Jasmine Hr1
Jasmine Hr2
______________

Tom Chittum Hr1
Tom Chittum Hr2
______________

Kevin Courtois
______________

Dr Syberlux
______________

Gary Larrabee Hr1
Gary Larrabee Hr2
______________

Kevin Courtois
______________

Pravdaseeker Hr1
Pravdaseeker Hr2
______________

DECEMBER 2008

Tom Chittum
______________

Crystal River
______________

Stewart Swerdlow Hr1
Stewart Swerdlow Hr2
______________

Janet Swerdlow Hr1
Janet Swerdlow Hr2
______________

Dr. Robin Falkov Hr1
Dr. Robin Falkov Hr2
Dr. Robin Falkov Hr3

JANUARY 2009 ______________

Patriotlad
______________

Patriotlad
______________

Crystal River
______________

Patriotlad
______________

Dr. Robin Falcov
______________

Patriotlad

FEBRUARY 2009

Find UFOs, The Apocalypse, New World Order, Political Analysis,
Alternative Health, Armageddon, Conspiracies, Prophecies, Spirituality,
Home Schooling, Home Mortgages and more, in:

Rumor Mill News Reading Room, Current Archive

Reader Charles: "Thank you Hobie for your comments. These open a dialogue where ..."

Posted By: hobie
Date: Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:27
www.rumormill.news/122037

In Response To: Reader Charles: "I believe these questions are of high public service in accord with the American experiment in self governance." (hobie)

(Thanks, C. :)

(My impression: The Constitution with a dozen or so amendments has -not- been terminated but appears to have been functionally overlaid by the "Corp US" one, without identifying that fact to the People. It's been said that initially our elected 'officials' held positions in both the true government offices and also in the Corp US ones, but that beginning about 1914, incumbent and newly elected 'officials' were and have been seated in the Corp US offices only, leaving the true governmental ones vacant.

In seeking to identify parties to contracts, one would need to consider statements by Anna Von Reitz (and others) concerning distinctions between the People, Lawful Persons, Legal Persons, American Nationals, State citizens, and federal citizens. In other words, while any action requires that a living man or woman provide consciousness and capacity for it, the action taken may be in the realm of one kind of legal fiction or another and not binding upon living men or women. This applies to those providing consciousness and capacity for the judiciary as well as for other fictions in the realm of commerce.)

Reader Charles Miller writes:

***************************************************************************

Re: Reader Charles: 'I believe these questions....

Thank you Hobie for your comments. These open a dialogue where the facts, written, dated, public record may be reviewed.

AMEND: transitive verb: 1. to put right. Merriam-Webster.

“ RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Reading the foundational documents as written, fully identifying the parties, their capacities, the intent expressed in the writings, the intended result and the actions based on those results clarifies the issues.

Any one believing there is more than one national constitution misses the essential elements of the documents them selves and what they say in black and white, as dated and archived. More to the point where, when, how and by whom was the original national Constitution cancelled or terminated?

The Bill of Rights, puts right, the Constitution on orders of the derivative servant parties the states, acting for their principals the good People. The People ordered the Amendments for their purpose, the agents carried out the orders. The language is clear or it is not.

Please reflect on the question of who holds the position to determine their rights and duties in contract. In the case of dispute one of or both of the parties purchase a contract to have a neutral 3rd party determine the rights and duties. That is what courts are for. Courts deal with and enforce the law of the contract. Courts are never authorized to alter or change the contract.

There is another article on RMN that might help clear up confusions on the positions that can terminate a contract. Positions and parties are very often different legal capacities.

TJ and Scuba, perhaps you might explain how the Documents created by servants or their associates, masters or controllers, your constitution, controls, alters, amends or voids the original constitution as amended by both principals, the People, and the agents to them along with the Congress made up of states creating the constitution.

The reason I identify the papers you apparently hold loyalty to as, your constitution, is you give those papers credence in the face of the facts on record.

It appears to me that refusal recognize the original contracts creating governments is first hand testimony, and that those giving credence to fraudulent, usurpatious overlays of valid archived before the the world public records, have made a choice to live in that fraudulent world rather than the one that protects the rights to choose political loyalties.

It appears to me that those refusing to answer simple straight forward questions either do not understand the question or have no answered.

For my self I refuse to cooperate with frauds, particularly when the obvious intent is to alter the operations of legitimate governments created by the good People’s contracts.

Perhaps you fellows might explain why the foundational documents I cited are not contracts between the People.

“ ……in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies,…… “.

If that statement in the last paragraph of the Declaration does not identify a contract and the parties what does it identify? What purpose does it serve in the Declaration?

My last question to both TJ and Scuba is, why are you so protective of your positions when production of the documents you rely on might resolve all questions and assist others in their understanding for them selves?

Inquiring minds would like to know!

***************************************************************************




RMN is an RA production.

Articles In This Thread

Reader Charles: "I believe these questions are of high public service in accord with the American experiment in self governance."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26
Reader JT: "What a ridiculous attempt to open an intelligent debate."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26
Reader JT: "When is a fraud not a fraud? Illogical question."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26
Reader Scuba: "Hobie is on the right track, there is not just one Constitution."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26
Reader: "Hobie is correct but mistaken at the same time."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:27
Reader: "well there are certainly more trust indentures than that ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:27
Reader Charles: "Thank you Hobie for your comments. These open a dialogue where ..."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:27
Reader JT: "Charles seems to assume that I rely on any of the documents on his list."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26
Reader: "Anyone who doesn't believe that there's more than one Constitution has not done their own thorough research."
hobie -- Wednesday, 13-Jan-2021 05:52:26

The only pay your RMN moderators receive
comes from ads.
Please consider putting RMN in
your ad blocker's whitelist.

Serving Truth and Freedom
Worldwide since 1996
 
Politically Incorrect News
Stranger than Fiction
Usually True!


Powered
by FundRazr
Click Widget
or Click Here to contribute.


Organic Sulfur 4 Health

^


AGENTS WEBPAGES

Provided free to RMN Agents

Organic Sulfur 4 Health

^


AGENTS WEBPAGES

Provided free to RMN Agents



[ DONATE TO RMN ] [ View Thread ] [ Archive Search Page ] [ RMN Reading Room ] [ CGI Media News Room ] [ SUBSCRIBE TO RMN ]

Rumor Mill News Reading Room, Current Archive is maintained by Forum Admin with WebBBS 5.12.

If you can't find what you're looking
for using our RMN search, try the Google or ixquick searches below:

Google
 
Web www.rumormillnews.com
www.bringemon.org

Ixquick
WebThis Site

AN EXPLANATION OF THE FACTIONS