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Posted By: Swami
Date: Friday, 22-Nov-2019 20:10:09
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In Response To: The USA Constitution: It Did What it Was Written to Do (Swami)

[Swami: comments in brackets]

Wow, RumorMill, I really disagree with some points in this article.

The original Constitution was a governing document among the several states, not “we the (many) people”. It’s enumerates specific ways things should be formed - Congress, some courts, what lawful money is supposed to be, and some very specific limitations on what that federal government is supposed to be allowed to do like not allowing Congress to make laws about religious expression, which obviously - like everything else written in English - be subject to some debate by people alive at the time to do the debating.

Just because the Federalists seemed to have achieved their goals back then and because others have misused and abused the rule book left to us by our ancestors does not mean we should throw it out along with the baby and the bath water. The document was incomplete and possibly imperfect, but starting over completely is NOT a move I am ok with. What have we done to fix the problem using the tools our ancestors left us?

[Swami: What exactly are we throwing out, by getting rid of government? What if the problem is having a government in the first place? What if the brick and mortar hierarchy is what allows the corruption to take place? Can the States and the People really control a fictional creation from a distance?]

Until now, did we even understand who the enemies were who had overtaken our government by corruption and secrecy and lies on top of lies? Sure, there have been people attempting to raise awareness in probably every decade since 1781, but if there was such a thing as “skull and bones” or pizzagate back then, people were unaware of it. But we know now who these monsters are and we fully know what they have done to our country using an incomplete but workable document.

[Was "our" government ours to begin with? Just because people are more aware of the situation today, doesn't imply that brick and mortar hierarchies haven't been attracting control-freaks and financial-junkies since mankind first imagined hierarchies. Even today, with all we know, we, the people, have continued to allow this behavior.]

Sure, I agree more with much of the anti-federalist sentiment than the federalist concept, but even in the worst case federalist scenario, the original constitution was began as a thin veneer compared to what years of corruption since then have turned it into.

We are in a really big mess and we have to be careful — on that, I completely agree with the author, but why shouldn’t we fix the federal government by first fixing our respective states? I don’t have an obligation to the federal government, but the state in which I reside does, and I most certainly have obligations to my state!

The state constitutions look much like the federal one in many ways. Here in Washington State, there is strong resemblance — including placing most of the constraints in the bill of rights right into it, and that state constitution, unlike the federal one absolutely DOES apply to me!!!

[Swami: Apply to you? In what way? Duty? Respect?]

Both healthy charity and a healthy republic begin at home, and that means in our respective states, folks! Our form of government was designed to be a representative republic — run by he rule of law, not mob rule!

[Swami: We neither have rule of law or mob rule, unless you consider it to be Mobster rule.]

Do I want to see Fmr. Secretary Clinton, James Comey, Debbie Wasserman Shultz and other bad actors answer for their treasonous actions? Absolutely!!! But if we for instance, throw away our system of government and lynch then first, then we will have become no better than the kings and queens of Europe who just shouted “off with their heads”!!! Or maybe that was Carrol’s Red Queen, but I find little difference as I am descended from both Hessian and French blood who disagreed in the first place.

[Swami: Even if you eliminate all the bad actors presently in positions of power or influence, and the Federal Reserve, it would take less time for the control-freaks and financial-junkies to regain control, especially since the majority of the population is more clueless than ever. The argument that we would be no any better than the kings and queens is ridiculous. People always use this excuse to avoid doing what needs to be done. Seriously, if people are not prepared to kill, in order to oppose those that are trying to kill them, then we have more serious issues to deal with first. "They" are already killing us. The difference between kings/queens/etc, and normal people, is most people don't want to dominate everyone on the planet.]

Remember what Benjamin Franklin allegedly said to Betsy Ross about what kind of government our ancestors chose? “You have a republic, Madaam, if you can keep it!” If we no longer have it, shall we blame all our dead predecessors or should we get to work at breakneck speed working on our own states to heal it from within? I vote we lock arms and choose the latter. After all, there are 50 of we States and only One federal government. Do you really think it can take us all? Who’s going to pay their paychecks if the states suddenly start doing what they should have been all along — enforcing the behavior and the laws we folks down in the states want to be law in our country!

[Swami: you can work at breakneck speed, but if you are working withing a specifically designed to be parasitical construct, then you are wasting your time, because it will revert to its intended purpose. It has already taken us all, and no one made a whimper about it, all these years. Recall what they get paid with, is created out of thin air, already.]

So, fix my state first, then make my state fix the federal government. That’s my plan because it’s what my ancestors left me, and because I am not arrogant or wreckless enough to think I can come up with anything better just because I am from their future! I actually hope the author will post another article and propose a solution or solutions that he or she feels we should be taking action on to improve America.

[Swami: If your ancestors left you with a horse and buggy, does that mean you wouldn't utilize the modern car? Arrogant and/or wreck-less, is not required to invent. It is also common, for people to disregard logic, if it doesn't simultaneously come with a solution. As if simply discussing the logic around the ideas are insufficient and insignificant. If you don't really know what the problems are, how can you design a solution to fix them?]

I agree that taxation is legalized theft and that my rights end where the author’s nose begins (a little Texas-style common law maxim), but beyond that, I felt the piece was heavy on criticism but light on solutions.

I am actually a monthly contributor to this site, so I do appreciate this forum and the opportunity it affords is all to discuss these most important of topics!

I believe we should find a way to heal our Republic. What say you all?




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The USA Constitution: It Did What it Was Written to Do
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