Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:43 am
Subject: Eye witness to The 18th of April, 1995 and that relations
From: taz@i... (Kenneth "Huck" McWilliams )
Eye witness to The 18th of April, 1995 and that relationship to OKC
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001
To whom it may concern,
There may be a few very minor discrepancies between what I have written
here and the affidavit sent to Mr. Charles Key and his private
investigator L.K.
However I have a copy of that affidavit should any questions arise from my
statements contained in this e-mail. Oh, and please forgive any spelling
errors, my spell checker is on the fritz again. :) I am sure there will be
no such errors in Mr Key's book!
It should by now be common knowledge that I worked in a CW ( undercover )
capacity for the FBI. With that in mind the following data was given to
Special Agent Fisher who worked at the San Antonio office if the FBI. He
stated that this data was of NO use to the FBI since they already had those
responsible for the explosion at the Murrah Building in OKC. Even though
my history while working for them was proof enough for another agent that I
was always truthful and accurate, this information was dismissed quickly
and I was told to forget it. This and other evidence that the FBI was not
always truthful in their disclosures is why I quit. The truth will most
certainly set you free, but first it will make you ............ .......!!!
When you can no longer trust those who took essentially the same oath we
took as soldiers, then who can we trust?
On April 18, 1995, I was on my way to visit a friend in MO. and I stopped
twice to call home to let my wife know that I was ok. According to phone
records obtained for me by an attorney friend in San Antonio, Texas, the
first call was made from near Checotah, OK, at 3:35 A.M. CST. The second
call was made from Wagoner, OK at 4:55 A.M. CST and lasted for 7
minutes. It was routed through Telecom, USA.
Within a few minutes ( approximately at 5:05 a.m. CST of my finishing that
phone call, I entered one of those all night combination gas station,
convenience stores.
At that time I witnessed several individuals who were later identified by
Glen Wiburn from my complete verbal description of the people I saw. I
gave Mr. Wilburn a complete description down to hair color, eye color,
height and weight of each individual.Those included Andreas Strasmeyer,
Michael Brescia at that time unidentified, and unidentified third male and
a female, later identified as Esther Millar. The third male was middle
eastern in appearance, with dark brown or black hair, brown eyes, about my
weight and height. ( roughly 5'9'' tall and 160 pounds ) I say roughly
since he was wearing a light windbreaker style jacket. I had met Andy once
before at a gun show in North Texas or possibly OK ( to the best of my
recollection it was in Fort Worth )
since at that time I was frequenting as many shows as possible, so I have
no doubts as to Andy's identity since we had a long conversation about the
necessity of civilian actions needed in restructuring our government.
Upon exiting the establishment I also saw what I believed to be a rental
truck similar to the Ryder truck that was used in OKC on the 19th. except
it did not have anything written on the side of it that was visible to me.
After leaving that area I proceeded north on Rt. 69 to the Big Cabin toll
booth and arrived there at 06:05:45, paid my toll, ( kept the receipt ) and
headed east on lane 268 to MO 44. I arrived at my destination early on the
morning of the 18th and received a call from home ( in Texas ) at 9:59
A.M. CST. To be honest, when I first heard about the explosion on the
19th. and that a rental truck had been used I thought it was these
individuals who had done it. I first heard about the explosion through an
employee who came up to the smoking area at the lab and told several of us
that she had just heard about it on the radio. This was later confirmed by
news reports that I saw on television that evening.
There is much more to this story, including conversations with Kirk Lyons
whom I feel covered up the truth about his client. I find it amusing that
the FBI agent I was working with at that time asked me to see if I could
locate him and it turned out that Andy had already been secreted out of the
U.S. through Mexico. Not to mention the fact that he admitted in a fax to
Mike Vanderbough that he had used funds that were to be used to defend the
Branch Davidians to get Andy out of the country. I first told this story
to Mike Kemp and he allowed me to use the alias Patrick Henry to contact
Lyons about his client mainly to protect my identity. Mike was very
helpful although there seemed to have been several players in what I was
sending to Kirk including Mike Vanderbough and Jeff Randall. BTW, for
those that have condemned Jeff Randall, all I can say is from my private
conversations with certain fedgov individuals that unless the agencies were
playing the old game of cat and mouse to cover their inside man he is
innocent of anything other than what a true God fearing American would have
done.
As for the so called VSA evidence, by a certain individual, he knew nothing
until we took an evening stroll up the street from his home where I
revealed the entire truth of what I had been doing, including this complete
story as well. We did that so in case their were bugs our conversation
could be private. I hold no grudges against any of these individuals
despite some accusations made by at least one of them.
NOW I have an accusation of my own. Since ONLY three individuals knew of
Patrick Henry, one of the three, Jeff Randall, Mike Kemp, or Mike
Vanderboegh gave my identity up to Kirk Lyons. So in your parlance, who is
the SNITCH??? Seems to me it's my turn to ask that seemingly popular
question of paranoid patriots! Kind of like a case of the pot calling the
kettle black.
I'm curious if that hate monger Martin Linsdedt will be so eager to find
the real snitch. I sincerely doubt it since this entire letter on my part
proves on which side of the fence my loyalties belong.
Seems that someone gave Kirk Lyons my real name and phone number ( that's
called a snitch )
and he quickly called me about his client. His story was that Andy and
Mike were fixing fence on that morning and left early because of the
rain. I find that interesting since it also rained the day before.
After wasting considerable energy discussing this issue with Lyons, I feel
he knows his client is guilty at least within the confines of a conspiracy
to blow up a federal building either in Tulsa or OKC. My photo record of
Mike B. has convinced me that he was JD #2. That and his tattoos which
were readily visible that morning.
Feel free to send this data to anyone you like. Everything written here is
substantiated by records that I have kept since I quit working with the FBI.
I'm sure that those who have accused me of still being a snitch will have a
field day with this, but I feel the truth needs to be told, especially
since one man is going to die for the work and guilt of many.
I swear that the above information is as honest and accurate as I can make
it after so many years have passed, and that most of this was taken from
records I have retained for my own protection. Those of you who have known
me personally know that since my conversion to Christianity I have tried to
be as honest and above board as is humanly possible.
Kenneth "Huck" McWilliams
