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Re: DISCLOSURE: Pseudo Christianity

Posted By: useless
Date: Friday, 11-May-2001 13:38:53
www.rumormill.news/9273

In Response To: DISCLOSURE: Pseudo Christianity (WINTER)

: The 'fallen angels of deceit' bear many disguises and may look
: EXACTLY like those who even now pretend to be 'flogging
: themselves' in supplication, all the while they spout their
: false message of self-righteousness and control.

Hmm. Who might you be referring to? Actually, if you look at the phrase "self-righteousness" it is a lot more descriptive of those that preach the new age doctrine of finding God within ones own self.

To say that one is righteous, by their own effort, is the very definition of self-righteousness. If you read my post you might note that I never referred to my own righteousness. Quite the contrary, I stated that I have no righteousness of my own. I stated that I am a sinner and am no "Christ".

1 John

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

: How do we know who is telling the truth? We must keep our own
: counsel. Towards that end there is a litmus test that makes
: the Controller's Puppets obvious: Do they spout FEAR and
: Hatred? or do they speak the Language of the Heart? Do they
: continue to clog the Earth's Heart with their message of
: doom? Or do they open a doorway to Love and Awakening?

So telling people the truth about the fallen human condition is fear and hate? Hmm.. that's strange, I always thought that it was loving to tell the truth, regardless of how it makes someone "feel".

If you are terrified about the fact that these "aliens" are demonic, then maybe you better get right with the Creator so that you might rest in the sure knowledge of His protection.

: CSETI's message is certainly speaking my Heart when it speaks
: of Revealing Truth about the UFO situation. Truth seems to
: threaten Pseudo Christianity because it destroys the false
: pretenses on which it is based. I OWN my own Mind...last
: time I checked. And I will decide for ME what is true and
: what is not. But I can only do that when I have available
: as much information as possible. Why would you seek to deny
: me this opportunity?

I don't seek to deny you an opportunity to believe a lie. That's your prerogative. I will continue to speak the truth however, as that is the loving thing to do.

: To react to fear with hatred is the Christian version of the
: Devil. AND yet, it is interesting that it is some calling
: themselves Christians on these pages that seem to be
: partaking in this mental 'sodomy'.

No, the devil's main sin is pride, or self centeredness. He likes to forget the fact that God created the universe and everything in it. He likes to forget the Creator and worship the creature. He likes to think that HE knows what's best for himself, not God.

: Why are you so afraid of Disclosure? Is it because
: Christianity itself was never meant to be a Religion? but a
: 'way' to return to one's own godsource? Pseudo Christianity
: was created by Constantine as a tool of Control. It was
: based on the Babylonian Belief system and absorbed bits and
: pieces of all religions in order to 'absorb' them into its
: clutches. It is memorized drivel and therefore rote.

I am not afraid of disclosure. I say bring the buggers on. They will only prove their true nature by their words.

They will reject that only Jesus is the Christ, thereby proving the source of their "enlightenment".

1 John 2 states

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also"

You are correct in stating that Christianity is not a religion, it is reality.

Christians live by the word of God. They know that God created all things by His word, and that His word is reality.

The "christianity" you are referring to is not true Christianity. It is not the Christianity to which I myself subscribe.

I do not believe in a works or law based salvation. Trying to attain enlightenment or salvation through one's own works is self-righteousness. It is the religion of the devil.

: "Don't you DARE think for your Self!" It decries,
: "WE will do your thinking for you!" Every person
: who is indoctrinated into it is forced into the yoke of
: addiction to their own misery. You can hear it resound in
: the heartless echoes of their self-flagulation here on
: these pages.

I don't want to think for myself. I have seen where that will get me. I want to live by God's words. I am a fallen puny little man. I have nothing in myself but selfish rebellion against God. Why would I want to look within to find God?

I'm glad I'm not God, because things sure would be a mess if I were.

: REAL Christianity comes from INSIDE. It comes from the Heart
: when it becomes the 'ruler' of the Mind, after the Mind
: becomes an 'adult'. It comes from the person who has found
: the Inner Path and walked inside to meet the Christ within.

Real Christianity believes the words of God. God's word says that man is sinful, wicked and fallen.

Romans 3 states

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Their feet are swift to shed blood:

Destruction and misery are in their ways:

And the way of peace have they not known:

There is no fear of God before their eyes.

: This kind of Christianity doesn't need to be defended. It
: is so simple and beautiful and reflects the truth of our
: spiritual essence. This kind of Christianity is based in
: LOVE; not hatred and fear. This Christianity is NOT a
: Religion, but a KNOWING that echoes from within
: (Esclarmonde's resonant cavity?).

Love can only be found within a relationship based on truth. If one is not able to face the truth about one's self, then it is impossible for that person to truly love.

: These Pseudo Christians seem to identify themselves by their
: fear of Truth. Why are you so afraid of the Human Mind
: determining for its Self what is 'true' and what is not? I
: must ask them: Are you afraid they will find out the truth
: about your pseudo Christianity?

Who has a fear of the truth here? I have stated the truth about man's fallen nature. You have become upset because of that truth. Remember God's word. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. If you do not believe God's words, then don't attempt to take on the mantle of Christianity.

: AND, why do you beat up on Esclarmonde who revels in the joy
: of freedom? Is Freedom a Sin, as well?

I have nothing against Esclarmonde personally. I admire her writing skill. I am just tired of the doctrines of devils being trotted out as truth and enlightenment. Any doctrine that tells one to look within for enlightenment without repentance of sin is Luciferianism through and through.

: PERHAPS IT IS TIME FOR A LITTLE DISCLOSURE OF THOSE WHO STEEP
: THEMSELVES IN BIBLICAL TREATISE AS THOUGH IT WERE A SHIELD
: FROM FACING THE TRUTH: And Jesus himself sat down in their
: midst and said: "I tell you truly, none can be happy,
: except he do the
: Law." And the others answered: "We all do the laws
: of Moses, our lawgiver, even as they are written in
: the holy scriptures."
: And Jesus answered: "Seek not the law in your scriptures,
: for the law is life, whereas the scripture is
: dead. I tell you truly, Moses received not his laws from God
: in writing, but through the living word. The
: law is living word of living God to living prophets for living
: men. In everything that is life is the law
: written. You find it in the grass, in the tree, in the river,
: in the mountain, in the birds of heaven, in the
: fishes of the sea; but seek it chiefly in yourselves. For I
: tell you truly, all living things are nearer to God
: than the scripture which is without life. God so made life and
: all living things that they might by the
: everlasting word teach the laws of the true God to man. God
: wrote not the laws in the pages of books,
: but in your heart and in your spirit. They are in your breath,
: your blood, your bone; in your flesh, your
: bowels, your eyes, your cars, and in every little part of your
: body. They are present in the air, in the
: water, in the earth, in the plants, in the sunbeams, in the
: depths and in the heights. They all speak to you
: that you may understand the tongue and the will of the living
: God. But you shut your eyes that you may
: not see, and you shut your ears that you may not hear. I tell
: you truly, that the scripture is the work of
: man, but life and all its hosts are the work of our God.
: Wherefore do you not listen to the words of God
: which are written in His works? And wherefore do you study the
: dead scriptures which are the work of
: the hands of men?"
: "How may we read the laws of God elsewhere than in the
: scriptures? Where are they written? Read them
: to us from there where you see them, for we know nothing else
: but the scriptures which we have
: inherited from our forefathers. Tell us the laws of which you
: speak, that hearing them we may be healed
: and justified."
: Jesus said: "You do not understand the words of life,
: because you are in death. Darkness darkens your eyes
: and your ears are stopped with deafness. For I tell you, it
: profits you not at all that you pore over dead
: scriptures if by your deeds you deny him who has given you the
: scriptures.
: From the Essene Gospel of Peace
: Full text can be found here:
: http://www.sccsi.com/~sparhawk/peace.htm

: Interestingly, this wonderful, albeit ancient, piece was found
: in a dusty corner of the Vatican Library. The Austrian
: Government owns a copy.

I do not have enough knowledge about the validity of these writings to either uphold or dismiss them. I would say however that Jesus also said "I am the way, the truth and the Life. No man commeth to the Father but by me." The above writings, if they are truly words spoken by Jesus Christ, must be interpreted in the context of the other words spoken by Jesus.

: Yes, perhaps ALL needs to be disclosed: Even the Roman
: Catholic/Protestant fake Christianity!

Do you believe that you sin? Do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins? Do you believe that He was THE Christ? Would you agree that you are nothing without Him?

If your answer is NO to any of the above questions, you prove the source of your doctrine. If you answer yes, then you better repent and get right with your Creator. When you repent of your sin, then you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. God himself takes up residence in your heart. Only His perfection residing within you can save you from your own foolish imaginations.



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Articles In This Thread

Disclosure Was A Success
maggie -- Friday, 11-May-2001 01:21:12
DISCLOSURE: Pseudo Christianity
WINTER -- Friday, 11-May-2001 09:28:53
Good, Bad, and Ugly
Terra -- Friday, 11-May-2001 11:25:15
IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE!!!
WINTER -- Friday, 11-May-2001 11:50:46
Re: DISCLOSURE: Pseudo Christianity
useless -- Friday, 11-May-2001 13:38:53
SAY WHAT?! "I don't want to think for myself...."
Esclarmonde -- Friday, 11-May-2001 14:08:16
Re: SAY WHAT?! "I don't want to think for myself..
useless -- Friday, 11-May-2001 14:52:55
the name useless
useless -- Friday, 11-May-2001 15:18:11

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