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BEING CIVIL AND COURTEOUS TO EACHOTHER AT RMN

Posted By: StClair
Date: Sunday, 28-May-2006 22:09:41

In Response To: WHERE IS THE SAFETY? (StClair)

Dear Friends

So many readers have written to me over this weekend on many of my posts - and every single e-mail was very kind and helpful, plus one who offered me constructive criticism about "off-planet races"; and I thank all of you. I just cannot post them all. Now I have to say something I can say even if it is a "Secret of The Lounge":

A few days ago I posted what seemed "funny" at the time, at least situationally while discussing the Da Vinci Code - an old report from BBC online about the photo mimicking the Last Supper with the all girls cast, which was the ad for a French fashion designer, showing essentially a female Christ and John The Beloved. Some readers found it funny too, but I know many others did not find this a very attractive move, even though it was situated in the never-ending DaVinci Code discussion.

Freedom4Ever found it extremely offensive that I of all people posted this here, and as you know she mentioned it here at the ReadingRoom. I wanted to think about the whole thing first, and meanwhile we then got into another debate about the Bible, Isaiah, Oneness, Unconditional Love, the New World Order, etc. and more specifically also about the general "bashing of America" that seems to be fashionable these days. It was misunderstood that I was for bashing "America."

As all my readers know I am totally against degrading any community or human being, and have never bashed America, as I try always to explain things in balanced or at least non-divisive ways. Quite to the contrary I am well-known in Europe for defending and explaining the problem all my American friends face in the system they live.

I have many friends in America and we do not find the situation they are in funny at all. But it is time to wake up now. I found out in the back ground talks about this whole big discussion that the subject that really irked quite a few was that famous "female Christ" photo ad post, and this is what set then the stage for further unhappiness. I also found out what it is that Christians find offensive about it.

So, I wanted to let you know I did apologize on my free will to my friend Bonnie Freedom4Ever, and I see in hindsight it was not exactly the smartest post I sent in here. I certainly did not mean to offend anybody or their religious feelings. We should not do anything that could offend another, that is quite true.

I think we want to stay open to find out the truth about Christ whose real teachings I respect (which are not the ones in the Bible) as they are quite the same as those of any of the great sages, Krishnamurti included. A little voice tells me that probably Christ himself would have seen the funny side in that ad but I see that in these times of change it is best we stay in neutral gear.

About the prophecies in the Bible I can say I have studied them all intensely and this is why I can comment on them at par level with any scholar world-wide. The prophecies are to be seen in terms of cosmology and mathematics, but this eludes the scholars totally, anyway that is of course explained in my book.

About the bashing of America, let me be clear: I am against it. However, I do agree with much of what PROZZAK stated in his post (see it further below in this page here) which got picked up by Rense.com and was read by over 13,000 people here at Rumormillnews. I disagree only with the approach that we single out "America" and call "Americans" "sheeple" and other words that cause offense to feelings.

That part needs to be revised or thought throug again, because indeed the world over we have huge problems, and much of what PROZZAK stated for "America" is of course valid in most other Western nations too, except, certain others did not invade Iraq and Afghanistan. You have to study his post to see how multi-layered his points are. I can see how some Americans might not like what was said.

But I think most of our readers see the economical and social context in which PROZZAK posted his comments, and you will agree what he states is actually quite true, except yes, AMERICA as such is NOT DEAD. We all have to see to it that the "Spirit" of the lands between the Atlantic and the Pacific survives. This is something we all want to do, world-wide, because the Spirit that drives "America" is the Spirit that drove the natives and high cultures all over the world.

He only asked what if it was dead and we had not noticed it?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=89088
Read his first opening line again carefully!

His last line was in effect saying to all Americans "Get Out While You CAN!" and here I would say we have to differentiate things a little bit and be more specific in the advice we want to give, which I have done throughout my book.

I say to readers that allover the world, wherever you are, it is a smart idea to look into how you can start a small local economy and that it is not a good idea to stay inside or close to large cities because the risk is great that large infrastructures will soon collapse due to several reasons I elaborate in the book in great detail.

Again in PROZZAKs post the issue is a bit like in my female Christ photo post in that we come close to offending some feelings. So while I say I kind of agree with what PROZZAK stated, I am not saying this to offend anyone. Even if what is said in that post is maybe "unpopular" or does not sound very nice, some of it is true, particularly the economic realities described in it. This is not meant to rub salt into any wounds, I know PROZZAK did not mean to do that.

I take this opportunity just to say we want to stay civil but we also dont want to be attacked for making our points in civil ways. We have to be able to think freely and to say what we mean - without fearing repercussions for doing so.

When I say we cannot use Bible prophecies to suit agendas then this is a very civil comment, even if it annoys some, but it is a true comment I think nonetheless, and it came about because I responded to the post by colleague Ghost who in a way responded to PROZZAK in a new thread that began here, so you see how all this developed:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=89103

I say it again we really want to avoid anything that causes division among us, for that is precisely what the New World Order types like to do, to cause division and hatred so as to rule the world better.

In any event, my post about the "female Christ" did trigger some emotions which carried through the whole week, and so I am in a way a bit responsible for the thick air we had here lately.

"Lets stay friends" is what I stated to Bonnie.
Lets move on to constructive positive subjects.

Peace
M StC.

ZEN OF STARS

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