Addendum To The Posting:

1. The Catholic Encylopedia was cited because it discusses the events of King John's time, not because I am a defender of the faith or a friend to the Papacy: yes, King John resigned his crown to the Papal Legate, and yes he got it back for an annual rent of 1,000 Marks; yes, Innocent III repudiated Magna Charta but Honorius III affirmed it when approving of the new king after the death of John Lackland.

2. The Protestant era was more fully developed in England and Scotland than in many other places by 1600: by the end of the events of the English Civil War and the time of Cromwell, there can be no doubt that England was a pillar of the Protestant cause and that this social upheaval was reflected in the foundations of the colonial settlements in the Americas.

3. When a King repudiates the Bishop of Rome, it really does not matter so much what is in "the Bible" unless that is the source of their quarrel: Henry VIII wanted a divorce so he could marry a woman who would give him an healthy male heir, not because he didn't agree with sacraments or the plundering of the poor by the various "monastic" orders.

4. When a King seizes the assets of the Church and executes or drives into exile those who oppose his seizures -- all of them conducted with at least some lawful authority -- that would certainly represent a major break with previous policy. Even if he continued to pay the annual rent, the bonds of concordat are broken and the contractual relationship is shattered. I have not found any historical source which indicates whether or not he paid that annual rent.

5. When William of Orange took over in England, this represented a further dimunition of the influence of the Papacy in Britain.

6. The Hanoverians and their idiot progeny have never pursued a policy which was entirely friendly to the Papacy, and Britain smashed the Imperial government of China in the Opium Wars in order to glom onto Hong Kong and to keep their poisons flowing from India into China. That is also why they seized Burma.

7. The present configuration of power indicates that British Zionism is continuing on a 100-year program of subversion and subjugation, aimed at destroying this once-free republican union of States. The general principles of logic dictate that the steward doesn't destroy his own wine cellar, and that the man who owns a house "in testate" or by any other means doesn't set it afire in order to evict the current tenants. Especially not when he has "buffaloed" them into paying the rent as an "equippage" and via an unlawful income tax which his minions collect, bank and redistribute at their leisure.

If the British truly owned this country from the beginning they would not have invested the blood and treasure necessary to corrupt, contaminate and destroy the republican government of these sovereign States. As for having Persephone on top of the Capitol ... I don't see how that proves anything at all ... and I am not even sure that that female statue is Persephone.

However I am willing to entertain more arguments concerning this statue and what it means. Frankly, I sort of like Persephone: she was a real babe and the world needs more feminine beauty.

: So, too, the early years of the government of the union --
: made possible by the Constitutional convention and the
: ratifications by Conventions of the Delegates of the People
: in the States, and not by the actions of "corporate
: boards," or by the State legislatures, required a
: resolution of the debts owed in France.

: Many citizens of these new States owed money to either British
: or Dutch factors (merchant/brokers), and to repudiate all
: of these debts would have created an impossible situation
: for the economics of the new union. Alexander Hamilton
: recognized this, and although he was clearly in favor of
: having a monarchial presidency, the two other factions at
: the Convention worked to restrain him and certain others in
: the Federalist faction.

: By the end of the Jeffersonian regime, many of these debts had
: been settled. The country was growing very quickly and only
: the interminable wars in Europe -- and the controversies
: engendered by Napoleon Bonaparte and his crew -- threatened
: the new union.

: The men who sat in the Senate in 1809 and early 1810 looked
: out on this world of turmoil and tumult, and acted
: decisively to protect their union of republican States.
: That is why the original Thirteenth Amendment was passed by
: such overwhelming votes in the Senate (26-1), and then in
: the House (87-3), and sent to the States for ratification.
: That is why the prohibition of titles of honour was
: included -- to defeat the designs of the Napoleonic dynasty
: and win the votes of Federalists -- and that is why
: "presents, pensions, offices and emoluments" are
: also put under the control of Congress, which resulted in
: the Legislatures of Ohio and Georgia giving this amendment
: their approvals.

: Their unanimous approvals!

: The Amendment was well on its way to ratification when the War
: of 1812 broke out: even after that fact, New Hampshire
: voted to approve it, but as public sentiment in the New
: England region turned against Mr. Madison, so too the
: Federalist enclaves there began to reject all things
: Madisonian. The rejection of the original Thirteenth by New
: York was predictable, as their merchant class was most
: closely-tied to British factors and their Senator (John
: Smith), had provided the sole vote against it.

: The disapprovals by Connecticut (1813), and Rhode Island
: (1814), reflect much more of the 'hard-headed Yankee'
: philosophy of that day and age, and the bitter animosity
: held towards Madison and the whole crew of Jeffersonian
: democrats abroad in the land. But following the brilliant
: victory of Andrew Jackson and his motely army of western
: militia, free men of color, Haitian refugees and Choctaw
: warriors -- at New Orleans in 1815, it can be said that any
: true links of ownership remaining between the King of
: England, Scotland, etc., and the United States were broken.

: Jackson went on to rout the British from Florida and to
: secure, in his own somewhat Draconian way, the western
: frontier against the non-stop agitation of British spies
: and provocateurs. The country survived the banking crisis
: and financial panic of 1819, and in the midst of all that
: tumult and change, the legislature of Virginia issued the
: Revised Code of its laws, with the original Thirteenth
: printed as being lawfully approved. Which is precisely what
: it was, having been considered, tabled, and then
: "pretermitted" for later action. Virginia had the
: right to vote in "en bloc," and that is
: apparently what they did.

: The benefits it brought to the union of sovereign States were
: immediate and long-lasting: James Monroe was made stronger
: and his Doctrine stands as a triumph of American diplomacy;
: John Quincy Adams -- a great thinker and diplomat -- passed
: through his term without the major achievements which he
: would later gather. The article was printed as being lawful
: numerous times by States in both the north and south, and
: Adams raised no objections to any of these printings. Nor
: did any member of Congress question the validity of laws
: issued by Illinois, or Connecticut, or Rhode Island or
: Maine, which contained the original Thirteenth Amendment
: and the Constitution ... intact.

: Andrew Jackson then came into the presidency, and with the
: help of certain key men from the north, he weathered the
: Nullification Crisis and defeated the Bank of the United
: States. Martin Van Buren was elected following Jackson and
: many of the same policies were continued, as they were also
: under John Tyler. Again the States repeatedly issued their
: Laws with the original Thirteenth Amendment included, as
: is, and intact. No controversies!

: If King Henry the VIII had not broken completely with the
: Bishop of Rome, then the argument could -- perhaps -- be
: made that land ownership which proceeded from royal grants
: was continuing into the new era of the united republics.
: But since the colonial States were devoid of their own
: credit, by the maxims of British policy in the previous
: sixty years or so, they had to obtain it somewhere. To
: borrow from the French and the Dutch and then to refuse to
: repay them would only corrupt, weaken and then ruin the new
: republican confederation. Whatever his other faults,
: Alexander Hamilton knew this very well. The union of States
: was founded by men who were once British-Americans and who
: had all the foibles and fancies characteristic of that
: time. Nearly 25% of the population remained in sympathy to
: the Crown at the time of revolution, and many of these
: people fled afterwards.

: Had they been sure of their property and their possessions, by
: some "trick" of accounting or some Papal Bull,
: these Tories would have returned to the States soon after
: the founding of the new government. Most preferred to
: remain in Canada or in England.

: The final point of logic rests on the proper issuance and
: ratification of the original Thirteenth Amendment: it was
: and is the eleventh plank of the Bill of Rights, a
: guarantee of free and fair elections in the States and a
: proviso against the creation of spies and traitors amongst
: our federal officers.

: The British have labored hard and long to suppress the
: knowledge of this lawful act of a lawfully-elected Senate
: and House, and the argument that they burned the government
: offices in Washington in order to destroy the evidence of
: its passage is one that has many merits. But they could not
: move against it for more than another full generation,
: following the events of 1815.

: Not until Andrew Jackson was dead and buried could they enact
: the careful, well-crafted plans for its suppression, which
: they accomplished with the help of pro-slavery politicians
: and the lawyers/attorneys paid by the slave-traffickers
: themselves. Even so it has taken the British oligarchy --
: drunken, blundering and stupidly crass beyond belief --
: fully another 124 years to get their most ambitious plan
: drafted and passed, which is NAFTA.

: The so-called North American Free Trade Agreement is the
: device which the British intend to use to dissolve the
: sovereignty of the States which formed and still remain the
: body of the union.

: The argument that they already own everything here and are
: running the U.S. for the benefit of the Papacy fails
: because of the rejection by Henry VIII of the Pope, and the
: two hundred + years of independent rule which follow. The
: States which made up this federal union claimed their
: sovereignty by right of revolution and by success in war.
: Any subsequent claims on the political life of the country
: were quashed by the issuance, ratification and public
: printing of the original Thirteenth Amendment. The fact
: that the British laid a trap for this union with the
: connivance of pro-slavery lawyers and attorneys does not
: validate a claim to their ownership of us, our lands or
: waters.

: If we have voluntarily given it away to them, since, that is
: yet another matter for another time. The Constitution was
: done in a lawful manner. The Bill of Rights was approved in
: a lawful manner. The original Thirteenth Amendment and the
: Anti-Slavery Amendment of 1865 were passed in a lawful
: manner and ratified. So too was the Fifteenth Amendment.
: These things taken together are a legal framework for
: resistance to all forms of British aggression and
: subversion. They are the patrimony of all who consider
: themselves to be lovers of freedom and certainly the
: property of all citizens of these United States.

: Free men can sell themselves into slavery, it is true. But at
: the present time the people here are being held as hostages
: to a debt which was not created by them and which is being
: collected from them without their direct knowledge or
: assent. Debts which cannot be explained and which can never
: be paid off are not really debts, now are they? But what
: are they?