Answer: We are in the 6th. sign -- coming up on the 7th.

I am always just so amazed at the knowledgeable and articulate people who post to this e-Group. Thank you all for making it such a pleasure to read; even the bad news. Sallie

: "The end of all things is at hand"

: 1st Peter 4:7

: 3/01/01

: There is a prevailing sense amongst veteran watchers and
: prophecy students that we are ready to enter the next phase
: in man's existence known as the Tribulation of final seven
: years spoken of by the prophet Daniel and the apostle John.

: I have done a lot of prayer and study in recent months and

: years to determine where we are, and what time it is
: prophetically. I quoted Peter above, but his most relevant
: comments are probably in his second epistle chapter 3
: verses 3-8.

: 3. First of all you must understand this, that scoffers will
: come in the last days with scoffing, following their own
: passions
: 4. and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? For
: ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things have
: continued as they were from the beginning of creation."
: 5. They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God
: heavens existed long ago, and an earth formed out
: of water and by means of water,
: 6. through which the world that then existed was deluged with
: water and perished.
: 7. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist
: have been stored up for fire, being kept until the
: day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
: 8. But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the
: Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand
: years as one day.

: Based on scoffing alone which is at a seeming all time high
: among the blissfully ignorant we should be concerned! We
: are experiencing many feared problems here in the US that
: were of concern at the roll over last January 2000. Only
: now since it is not "Y2K" related then it can
: some how be ignore or downplayed as a mere anomaly or a
: bump in the road of life easily maneuvered around.

: The fact is the economic drag of Y2K related activities and
: problems (especially in the energy sector)have taken a huge
: toll on the economic health of the US and abroad. The world
: is a more unsettled place, and merely printing money ad
: infinitum is not the panacea it has been in recent years.

: The truth I believe, is partly that economic gravity has set
: in the markets etc., and that the powers of the NWO are
: wanting to make the huge and painful transfer to their
: malevolent New Order or 4th Reich. They have cashed in on
: the huge bubbles and feathered their nests in the trillions
: of dollars while setting up the unsuspecting masses for a
: total washout once the plug is permanently pulled on the US
: and other economies.

: Probably the most significant weaknesses in America lie in our
: culture and military. Like the last days of Rome we are
: collapsing within from our our sins and decadence. This
: will likely allow the barbarians to over run us which
: heretofore was unthinkable.

: It has been said that the Bush family represents an American
: centered NWO. The problem with this is that rest of the
: world does not want this, and will oppose it with weapons
: of warfare both militarilyand economically. I believe we
: are close to seeing this unfold and there is little the US
: will be able to
: do about it. This excerpt is from a website for a conference
: in Russia next week that outlines in detail the demise of
: the US and new coalitions and currencies formed by Russia,
: China, some of Europe, Asia and the Arab nations:
: http://www.ffo.ru/crisis/eindex.html

: INTERNATIONAL FINANCE CONGRESS

: GLOBALIZATION PROCESS AND HIDDEN MENACE OF THE CRISIS OF THE

: WORLD RESERVE CURRENCIES

: Dear colleagues!

: After analyzing the current performance and trends at the
: world stock market, currency market, position U.S. dollar
: and the U.S. Government’s obligations we and You as well
: not unfounded have been anxious with the increasing number
: of publications concerning the feasible crisis of the
: U.S.Federal Reserve System, world stock market and results
: in worrying rise of inflation which will be tailed the
: depreciation the U.S.D., the core world reserve currency.

: In connection with the emerging tension both at the
: international finance market and stock market as well,
: considerable fluctuation in the oil prices, and some other
: indicators of instability in the financial world, a group
: which composed of Russian and foreign financial analysts
: has made a decision to call a special meeting to debate the
: current precrisis situation in order to consider ways in
: which we can meet these challenges and elaborate an optimum
: strategy for the authorities of financial structures in
: Russia and in other emerging market economies.

: snip>

: Topics of speech and issues for discussion

: The opportunities occurred to Russia by the world financial
: crisis for its new foreign policy and supporting the U.S.
: economy soft landing.

: The crisis of the finance system of the U.S.A. in the new
: millennium.

: The converting Russian state stocks and reserve currencies
: from the U.S. dollars in the euro and the yuan.

: The converting the assets of the Russian commercial banks in
: the euro and the depositors’ funds into the independent
: currency.

: The withdrawal the U.S. dollars from cash and draft in Europe
: and Asia.

: New financial saving systems of the euro and the yuan. The
: yuan as the main currency in the Asian region.

: Dollar-depended economics and their policies during the global
: finance crisis.

: The new targets: the economic growth and the investing
: opportunities in the Asian countries and Russia.

: China and other Asian countries’ finance systems are opened to
: the foreign deposits.

: The new map of the financial world.

: Converting the accounts for gas and oil from U.S. dollars in
: the euro by the Arabian countries.

: The unmotivated armed conflicts as the regulator of the
: financial and stock markets’ fluctuations.

: The sovereign default of the U.S. Federal Reserve System - two
: months’ forecast.

: Paying off the Russian foreign debts to the“ dollar - zone “
: countries, the London Club and the Paris

: Club as well under the devaluation of the U.S. dollar.

: The external indebtedness to Russia into the state bonds and
: stock shares of the natural resources

: (energy and gold-mining) companies.

: The force-major circumstances for TNC and TNB in dealing with
: unhedged contracts during the

: sovereign default of the U.S Federal Reserve System.

: snip>

: The US has been key to the production of the NWO having spent
: its huge scientific, economic and military prowess to bring
: about globalization and the agenda of the UN. The UN is
: really an American invention that would not have been
: possible or viable unless the US built and maintained it
: financially and physically.

: For those who see the UN as some insidious cancer foisted upon
: ignorant lawmakers in Washington, D.C. I say you are naive
: and foolish. The fact that the UN would dry up and blow
: away overnight without US taxpayer money and military
: prowess is de facto evidence it is a creature of our
: making,and feigned antagonism by such
: "conservatives" as high level Mason Senator Jesse
: Helms (R-NC) is nothing but a cover designed to rally the
: constitutionalists and nationalists, but to no avail or
: import.
: Most recently Senator Helms the reputed arch foe of the UN,
: delivered the check personally to keep this oppressive
: organization afloat.

: Within the past two weeks Sec. of State Colin Powell a CFR
: lackey publicly assured the UN staff that they could count
: a cozy relationship with the GW Bush administration, and
: said that the president had the "highest respect"
: for this the prime vehicle of world oppression and
: globalization. To top it off Bush, appointed Mr. Negroponte
: a lifelong diplomat and CFR member to the be the ambassador
: to the UN. This excerpt sums it up nicely:
: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010214/pl/un_powell_dc_1.html

: Powell Signals Days of U.S. Dumping on UN Over

: By Evelyn Leopold

: UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Paying his first visit to the

: United Nations (news - web sites) on Wednesday, Secretary of
: State Colin Powell (news - web sites) gave assurances that
: the days of acrimony between Republicans and the world body
: were over.

: Lavish in his praise, Powell, after meeting Secretary-General
: Kofi Annan (news - web sites), told reporters, ``I took the
: opportunity in our conversations to express to the
: secretary-general our strong support, the president's
: strong support of the work of the United Nations.''

: Snip>

: Likewise, the terrorist organization turned government
: Arafat's Palestinian Authority would dry up and cease to
: exist if the Israeli's stopped funding and arming it. They
: can blame the rest of the world, but if they had not
: legitimized and supported its existence it would not have
: made this far as a thorn in their side, and an internal
: threat to Israel.

: This all smacks of a conspiracy, but the end of it is what we
: need to focus on because it not a "happily ever
: after" type of ending. The God of the Bible determined
: the "end from the beginning", and what the NWO
: has planned has played into His sovereign plan not the
: other way around, as the Illuminati would have us to
: believe.

: I have had the opportunity to correspond with and read the
: writings of some ex-Illuminists, and they all tell me that
: Illuminati acknowledges the various battles and scenarios
: of the biblical books, but they believe it will work to
: their end or they can alter the course of things to thwart
: God. I would scoff at this except it fits their arrogance
: and m.o. of the past several centuries.

: This brings me to my next point. Are we on man's timetable or
: God's?? The problem that most learned analysts including
: many fine Christian ones, is that they are looking for
: things to logically be played out according to worldly
: parameters. They look at Russia and China and contend that
: they won't be ready for a major war for at least 2-3 years
: or beyond. Likewise they look at the US and say it is not
: weak enough yet, nor is Europe strong enough yet for the
: advent of the final 7 years.

: Let us consider two fundamental things, first Satan has been
: trying to implement his evil plans of a one world under his
: rule in total rebellion against God for millennia.
: Secondly, God is not interested in man's timetable and when
: its time its time, period.

: That fact that the wicked and unbelieving would not perceive
: these things is no mystery and many biblical scriptures
: address this, with my favorite being Daniel 12:10: Many
: shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be
: refined; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the
: wicked shall understand; but they that are wise shall
: understand.

: We do need the wisdom of God in these last days. We need to
: avoid the tendency to project our timetable onto His. What
: is actually govt. spin these days is accepted by the
: ignorant and unwitting.

: For instance, the headlines currently are largely about Saddam
: Hussein: Upgraded Moscow-Beijing Military

: Relations as Manifested in Aid to

: Baghdad – Primary Washington MidEast Concern

: Feb. 25: According to DEBKAfile’s US sources, the Bush

: administration’s concerns are dominated

: not only by Saddam’s threat to the Middle

: East, but equally by the transformation of Baghdad into a hive
: of radical anti-American forces, organizations and

: interests, Russian, Serb, North Korean, Iranian,

: Chinese and others.

: snip>

: Defectors Say Iraq Tested Its First

: Nuclear Bomb In 1989

: By Uzi Mahnaimi and Tom Walker

:
: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/02/25/stifgnmid03001.html

: 2-25-1

: Disturbing new evidence has emerged about

: Saddam Hussein's nuclear arsenal as tension

: rises in the Middle East over an increasingly

: aggressive Iraq.

: According to two former senior scientists in the Iraqi nuclear
: programme - corroborated by a Former aide to Saddam's son
: Uday - Iraq carried out a successful nuclear test before
: the Gulf war and now has a nuclear stockpile.

: snip>

: Many people are startled at these articles as some type of new
: revelation that is hard to swallow. Furthermore, spin
: articles are abounding that Iran will not have functional
: nuclear missile for 2-3 years. HOGWASH!!! If you have been
: really paying attention to detail and intel reports over
: the past several years you will know that the Iranians
: should have completed their arsenal by now. You would also
: know that Iraq has its best weapons in Libya and Sudan.
: Hussein's best Scuds along with
: nuclear weapons were sequestered there before the Gulf War and
: US intelligence (if there such a thing) knows this very
: well.

: Khaddfy for instance, has a huge underground complex he built,
: and Saddam's weapons are stored there as well in the Sudan
: which is now home to 700k Chinese troops according as
: reported in major
: publications in recent months. I have been reporting this type
: information for the past 4 years, and for solid three years
: in my online newsletter "Prophetic News and
: Analysis" which some of you read faithfully when it
: was up and running.

: The point I want to make is, that many analysts are saying the
: next war in the Middle East will be a limited one kept
: contained to Israel and her immediate neighbors. This seems
: to be the plan of the NWO powers as it would help usher in
: the false "Christ" and help them gain control
: over the oil in the Arab countries and the Temple Mount in
: Jerusalem.

: The problem is that the next major battle is referred to as
: the Ezekiel 38-39 battle which includes a group of Arab/
: Islamic nations led by Russia against Israel (and her
: allies most likely). Indeed the forces of the yet to be
: fought battle prophesied in Psalm 83 revolve around the
: immediate neighbors
: of Israel including Syria and Iraq.

: However, these same countries have mutual protection treaties
: signed with Russia, Iran, China, Libya and Sudan. With
: Saddam vowing to retaliate with everything he has, this
: would likely include his weapons in Libya and Sudan as well
: as the rest he acquires from China, Russia and North Korea.

: So are we to believe that the soon coming showdown will
: reserve its self to a small confined area?? Perhaps it will
: initially, but you can be sure that the full blown battle
: of Ezekiel 38-39 will not be long to follow as Israel has
: to annihilate its enemies round about and face the
: onslaught of the surviving
: nations and their big brother Russia. Or it be simultaneous.

: It seems that we are being mislead today as to the scope and
: severity of what lies ahead, and when it will likely
: shakedown. That makes me even more suspicious. However, I
: believe that spiritually the battle will begin as outlined
: in Psalm 83 and then escalate to the Ezekiel 38-39 battle
: as Israel destroys
: its immediate neighbors with superior weapons of mass
: destruction.

: The clincher is what happens to the US. If the Bush and
: Rockefellers have their way the US will be run by the UN,
: and likewise the world. The snag as I see it is that God
: will move Russia and China to take the US out of commission
: so to speak for the remainder of days as the Ezk. 38 battle
: unfolds. God will make sure the hook is set to cause Russia
: to betray the US branch of the NWO, and strike to cripple
: and destroy much of our country and most assuredly the UN
: and New York City.

: Many have debated the notion that the US will be destroyed,
: and that it fits as Babylon in Rev. 18 which is burned in
: one hour and loses its status as the largest influence on
: the Earth economically and governmentally. First of all,
: what other nation or entity can be fit in this mold besides
: the USA??? The
: UN without a doubt has served to be the prime vehicle for the
: goals of the Illuminati in the last half of the 20th
: century, and the US has bar none has had the largest
: economic impact and prowess of any nation or group of
: nations.

: Our capital is one giant occultic center with its Babylonian
: symbols and "Lady Liberty" in New York Harbor is
: an exact likeness of the chief goddess of ancient Babylon
: as displayed in modern day Hatra, Iraq.

: I have a video shot by a group of Christian men showing the
: idols of Babylon; filmed just prior to the 1991 Persian
: Gulf war. The French Freemasons who built the statue knew
: exactly what they were signifying and it is memorialized on
: the base of the Statue in New York. Likewise, the world's
: largest obelisk of Nimrod is in Washington, DC which was
: designed and built by French Freemasons.

: My best source of information in Israel and friend Barry
: Chamish is telling us that the war chiefs of Israel know
: that a war will be in earnest by April. In the meantime,the
: finishing touches on the NWO/CFR plans for a limited but
: devastating war in and around Israel are being completed
: with CFR stooges Sharon and Peres in control of Israel.

: This will set into motion or be concurrent with other major
: events around the world and in the US. The NWO dominated by
: the US and Britain will be a thing of the past with Europe
: and Asia rising out of the ashes to dominate the final
: seven years of tribulation. The Antichrist will arise out
: of Europe with occultic connections to various blood cults
: that believe they are destined to produce the Christ who
: will rule the world from Jerusalem while having the full
: military prowess of the EU behind him. He will credential
: himself with Israel by rebuilding the Temple, and making
: sure everyone knows he has Davidic blood amongst other
: signs and wonders.

: The Vatican with its last pope will produce the false prophet
: and world religion that will make the Anti-christ gain the
: world's trust and adoration. I had very vivid dream of the
: False Prophet in the Vatican. I saw it clearly and in
: living color. I got a glimpse of Lucifer, and he was very
: impressive and
: mesmerizing. What I saw was in total agreement with scripture
: and made me realize just how deceived the world will be.
: This dream is as close as I want to get to that situation,
: and I plan to see it from thebalcony of Heaven when it
: unfolds in the near future.

: The following scripture from Revelation 17 makes it clear why
: all this transpires: For God hath put in their hearts to
: fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto
: the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

: I want to underscore the fact that the final seven years is
: Satan's last stand and not a picnic for the NWO and
: Illuminati who have carried out his will for centuries and
: millennia. They may delude themselves t that they are going
: to overcome God, but the fact that He determined the end
: from the beginning makes this impossible. They are simply
: acting out their rebellion to its final conclusion, and
: Satan is facing his own Waterloo or "Custer's last
: stand". No contest does not even begin to
: describe what it will be like; each time the world rebels and
: does not repent they will be hit with something much worse,
: and so it will be for 7 years; especially in the final half
: of that 7 years.

: These things are nigh to the door and yet most people are
: earnestly in denial mode. This head in the sand approach
: will not prevent anything, and will only make matters worse
: for many. We are about to turn the corner and many people
: are sensing it.

: My prayer is that we will draw close to the Lord and His son
: Jesus (Yeshua) with our hearts and lives. We need His
: wisdom on what to do to be prepared, but the prepping is
: about over all the way around.

: What you sense and known in your heart and spirit is not a
: hoax or paranoia. Do what you can to alert others, but down
: get bogged down in it.

: God bless and keep the faith,

: Mike