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9.11 PANELIST WROTE MEMO THAT MADE WALL THAT CAUSED 911

Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 21:00:04

9.11 PANEL MEMBER WROTE MEMO THAT ESTABLISHED WALL THAT CAUSED 9.11

"9-11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick wrote a 1995 memo that established a "wall" between the criminal and intelligence divisions, hindering the ability of the U.S. government to detect the Sept. 11, 2001, plot, according to testimony today by Attorney General John
Ashcroft."

WHY IS SHE STILL ON THE PANEL?
DO YOU THINK SHE CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
I DON'T...IT'S HER REPUTATION THAT IS ON THE LINE!



What does this mean to you and me? It means that if this memo hadn't been written and the right hand could share criminal information with intelligence -- i.e. terrorist information... that there "might" have been a possiblity that 9.11 could have been prevented. The question we need to ask now is WHY did the Clinton administration want to create a wall that walled off criminal activities from terrorist activities... didn't anyone in that adminstration realize that the two go hand in hand?

If someone steals 10,000 pounds of dynamite... does this mean that the FBI investigating the theft can't talk to the FBI or CIA that are invetigating people in the country that might want to blow things up? What was the REAL reason behind this law?

We might have the ask the NYT and why they objected so much to the FISA laws... needless to say.. without the NYTimes on their side... the Clintons couldn't have gotten where they did and STAYED there!! They had to keep the NYT on their side. When is someone going to look into what they Times had to gain?

Here is part of an article from Commentary Magazine that explains ALL of this. I have excerpted a small part... if you really want to understand what is going on here... please read the entire article.

Also remember... it doesn't matter WHO is funding these people or WHO these people really are... we can debate that later after we have stopped all of this. If people are shooting at you, you cant' take the time to find out if the NWO bought their guns or if Bush supplied their bullets... if you do this you are going to end up dead!

If you are being shot at, you have to stop those who are shooting at you first... and THEN when you are out of harm's way you will have the luxury of looking back and trying to figure out who was really behind all of this! then we can point to the Rothchilds, or the NWO, or Skull and Bones or Israel... or the man in the moon... but right now if we don't all start hanging together as a FREE nation... I assure you... we will no longer exist as a free nation... possible not even as a nation.

At the moment... people who believe in a God that gives them free will and RIGHTS... are under attack!! The kind of government that says that ALL our rights come from GOD... is under attack!! If people don't wake up in a real hurry... we will have fallen victim to this latest Hegelian attack on freedom!

also remember... most people who work for government love freedom as much as you and I do. they are NOT part of the cabal that is trying to turn us into the Soviet States of America. They are ordinary people who probably don't even know as much about what's going on in the world as you do.

The man who wrote the following article is one who understands the mess and seems to have a good overview of the big picture... you really need to read the entire article.




The Intelligence Mess: How It Happened, What to Do About It

Andrew C. McCarthy

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=11704013_1

snip snip snip -- this section is about halfway down the article:

Even as militant Islam began its terrorist war against the United States with the 1993 WTC bombing and the 1994-95 "Bojenka" plot to blow a dozen American airliners out of the sky over the Pacific, the Justice Department was worrying that agents and prosecutors might be perceived to be using intelligence-gathering authority to build criminal prosecutions. Often, the result was weeks or more of delay, during which identified terrorists who happened also to be committing quotidian crimes went unmonitored while the government dithered over whether to employ FISA or the criminal wiretap law. The insanity reached its apex in 1995 with the "primary purpose" guidelines drafted by the Clinton administration: henceforth, a firewall would be placed between criminal and national-security agents, generally barring them even from communicating with one another.

The damage from the firewall and the impediments to FISA has been incalculable. It took ten years to make the racketeering case against Sami al-Arian, the professor accused of helping run the murderous Palestinian Islamic Jihad from the campus of South Florida University, because the wealth of information collected by intelligence agents was withheld from their criminal counterparts. And that was a pittance compared with what happened in the waning weeks before the September 11 attacks. Zacarias Moussaoui, who had paid cash for pilot training (and was reported to authorities when his bizarre behavior—including intense interest in how cabin and cockpit doors worked—could no longer be ignored), was detained by the immigration service. Worried FBI intelligence agents were desperate to search his computer, but were turned down by supervisors who decided there was insufficient evidence to go to the FISA court. His al-Qaeda membership and numerous connections to the hijackers were not uncovered until after the attacks.

And the Moussaoui travesty itself pales in comparison to the story of Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, excruciatingly recounted in Slate by Stewart Baker, general counsel of the National Security Agency during the early Clinton administration. The pair, who had trained to pilot planes, lived in California. In August 2001, an astute FBI intelligence agent was trying to find them, and asked the criminal division for help. But FBI headquarters stepped in and insisted that the firewall not be breached: criminal agents were to stay out of the intelligence effort. A few weeks later, al-Midhar and al-Hazmi plunged Flight 77 into the Pentagon, their manifold ties to Mohammed Atta and the other hijackers kept safely under wraps.

V

In attempting to "connect the dots" on how branches of our government erected barricades against efficient information-sharing, one cannot avoid addressing the most basic blunder of all. In the years after World War II, the designers of the CIA conceived of it as, in one sense, an analogue to the American military. Just as the armed forces are generally precluded by law from domestic policing (which is left to the FBI and other federal, state, and local agencies), so the CIA could not conduct its operations within U.S. territory.

The CIA, then, is confined to foreign intelligence and counterintelligence activities. When leads cross into U.S. territory, the FBI takes over—mainly through its foreign-counterintelligence division, which is separate from its law-enforcement side. This division of labor, and not simple rivalry, is the salient reason for the inter-agency warfare of the last half-century.

Turf aside, however, the structure is not analogous to the military doctrine of posse comitatus, which bars the armed forces from domestic policing. For if the United States were invaded by a foreign army, our military would respond; that would be a national-defense function, not policing. Similarly, hostile foreign operatives within the U.S.—plotting, recruiting, providing funding and material support to their principals—fit the mold of an invading foreign army far better than that of a criminal collaborator.

Yet U.S. law and tradition (strenuously supported by many of the same politicians who today bluster about the CIA’s lack of dot-connecting skills) rig intelligence as if it were Russian roulette: the agency whose raison d’être is to counter foreign threats to our national security is precluded from participating in investigations once they cross into our nation, while the agency that is expected to pick up the ball and run with it from there does so without the CIA’s depth of knowledge and expertise.

The ill-conception of this arrangement has become increasingly patent. With the info-tech revolution, al-Qaeda operatives seamlessly share information across borders with the click of a mouse, enabling them instantly to construct a complete picture of their prey. By contrast, the forces charged with keeping us safe from them are expected to complete awkward hand-offs as persons and information roam in and out of the country. The windfall beneficiary is, ironically, the terrorist operative who happens also to be an American citizen. Such an operative is not only protected by the full panoply of constitutional rights wherever in the world he travels but is radioactive to the CIA, which is no less fearful of the perception that it is spying on Americans than the Justice Department was about the appearance of misusing FISA.

VI

It is bad enough that, prior to 9/11, terrorists could easily survive in the lacunae of our domestic intelligence apparatus. Worse, they positively thrived on the way it operated.

Throughout the eight years of the Clinton administration, as militant Islam’s jihad against America escalated, the federal courts became the linchpin of counterterror strategy. This began understandably enough. The 1993 WTC bombing was viewed as a domestic crime. Although, years later, investigators and journalists would link the bombing to al Qaeda, and al Qaeda in turn to prior terrorist acts against the U.S., at the time not much was known about Osama bin Laden, his network, and his national support systems in Afghanistan and Sudan. No one credibly could fault President Clinton for handling the matter as a court case or for not responding militarily. As the murder and mayhem grew, however, and as it became clearer that indictments were a pusillanimous response to suicide bombers geared to obliterate American embassies and naval destroyers, Clinton stayed the self-defeating course.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RUMORMILLNEWS/message/17609

GORELICK SHOULDN'T BE ON THE 9.11 COMMITTEE, SHE SHOULD BE TESTIFYING BEFORE IT!!

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/04/27/National/Gorelick.Memo.Exposes.feckles\s.Clinton.Policy-658995.shtml

Articles In This Thread

9.11 PANELIST WROTE MEMO THAT MADE WALL THAT CAUSED 911
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 21:00:04
GORELICK DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ~LINK
Ghost -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 23:28:54
HMMMM... AMERICA! SOMETHING IS ROTTEN ON THIS COMMISSION!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Wednesday, 14-Apr-2004 23:54:37
GORELICK REFUSES TO STEP DOWN, LAME EXCUSES!!!
PRAVDASEEKER -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 13:23:07
GORELICK US OFFICIAL MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
Ghost -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 13:38:33
GORELICK MEMO IS A BRICK IN THE SCHEME OF THE BREAKDOWN
Ghost -- Thursday, 15-Apr-2004 17:22:56

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