Noah sent me an email stating that he had tried to postthis to the Forum and couldn't -- This is very important -- read past the EIR article -- the rest is very enlightening. Sorry for the mess it is in -- It came that way and I didn't have the time to clean it up.
Rayelan
###
From Noah
SEE MY ORIGINAL POST ON THE RUSSIAN SUB:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=4176
AND READ MY RESPONSE TO SPIRITUAL PIGLET BELOW. I WAS TOLD 10 YEARS IN DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT THE RUSSIANS WOULD ATTACK THE US & UK IN THE FUTURE. AT THAT TIME I HAD A HARD TIME WITHT HE IDEA OF THE BRITS AND US TOGETHER AND WHY??? I HAVE SEEN THE PROPHETIC AND PREDICTED COME TO PASS WITH 100% ACCURACY. THE HOOK IS BEING SET!!!!
_________________________________________________________________
On the Verge Of World
War III - And You Weren't
Even Told!
By Jeffrey Steinberg,
Exclusive to Rense.com
8-24-00
(EIRNS) -Thermonuclear World War III was moments from
breaking out on the weekend of Aug. 12-13, after the sinking
of
the Russian nuclear submarine Kursk--and you, the American
people, were never informed, as a result of a "wartime"
blackout
and total silence on secret war-avoidance diplomacy imposed
by
the White House.
But it is the Anglo-American financial oligarchy, grown
desperate
and hysterical over the imminent demise of their power in the
world financial collapse--not some "Seven Days in May"
military
putsch apparatus--that is the driving force behind the push
for
war, including the thermonuclear brinksmanship in the Arctic
waters of the Barents Sea.
Lyndon LaRouche spelled it out in an Aug. 20 statement
reading in
part:
"At this point, no miracle could save the present
IMF-centered
global financial and monetary system from collapse in the
immediate future. The system is doomed, hopelessly so. That
is
the good news. The bad news is, that the presently ruling
international financier-oligarchy will not willingly accept
its
inevitable doom peacefully.
"That oligarchy, as self-caricatured by the present editorial
staff of
the Wall Street Journal, is as mad as Lady Macbeth. Under
these
circumstances, every crisis-spot in the world, inside the USA
itself,
in the Americas generally, in Africa, and in Eurasia
generally, is
the site of a local political firestorm either in flames, or
about to
erupt. It is not the tinder of the local hot-spot which
causes this
phenomenon; it is, rather, the heat of the global crisis of
the
financial system which seeks out, and tends to ignite all
available
tinder, such as the case of the sinking of the Kursk. In this
state
of affairs, those firestorms tend to come together,
threatening an
early global conflagration of awesome, but otherwise
unpredictable, intensity, duration, and consequence."
LaRouche's statement was issued several days {before} the
Russian government, in "leaks" and official statements,
confirmed
that nuclear war had hung in the balance Aug. 12-13.
- What We Know -
While American and European media have jumped the gun in
attributing the Kursk sinking to onboard explosions, probably
caused by a battery fire or torpedo detonation, the
preponderance
of evidence in fact suggests that the Kursk collided with
another
vessel--a U.S. or British submarine, or drone vehicle--or, in
the
extreme case, was possibly hit by a torpedo.
Even now, details of the near-miss strategic showdown have
largely been kept out of the Western media, despite
publicized,
detailed statements by senior Russian government and military
officials, including Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev, and an
Aug. 22
Pravda.ru story with the bold headline, "World War III Could
Have
Begun on Saturday."
In an Aug. 21 interview with Russian ORT TV, Sergeyev
reported
that at roughly 6 p.m. Moscow time Aug. 12, Gen. Popov,
Commander of Russia's Northern Fleet, was informed that the
submarine Kursk had failed to establish a communication link
during Barents Sea maneuvers in which it was involved.
A search-and-rescue mission was immediately launched, and
early
sonar data showed {two} vessels lying at the bottom of the
Barents Sea.
It took approximately 24 hours, until Sunday evening, Aug.
13, for
the Kursk to be located, and by that time, according to
Sergeyev,
the second vessel, presumed to be a foreign submarine, was
gone
from the area.
The Kursk, with a crew of 118 sailors and officers, was found
at
the bottom of the Sea. Most of the crew were instantly killed
in
what Russian officials are all but certain was a collision
with the
second vessel.
On Aug. 21, the Russian news agency Interfax reported that
Russian rescue workers had found a fragment of a submarine,
"most likely British," near the Kursk. This followed earlier
reports
that emergency buoys, also identified as British, were seen
floating near the collision site.
Then came the Aug. 22 Pravda.ru story: "On Saturday, Aug. 12,
an
incident occurred in the Barents Sea, where the Russian
Federation's Northern Fleet was conducting exercises, which
nearly
led to the outbreak of full-scale combat--a third world
war.... For
several days the world hung by a thread, and one false
political
move could have led to an exchange of nuclear strikes."
Citing hydroacoustical evidence of three explosions,
"indicating
the possibility that the Kursk had suffered a torpedo
attack."
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> Yesterday, Q posted and article titled RECENT EXPLOSIONS AND CRASHES. It the
> article he talks about a Canadian investigation. One of our RMNews Agents
> found the article Q said would appear. The following is the link to Q's
> article. The Canadian newspaper article is at the end of this email.
>
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=4203
>
> ###
>
> >From the Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum
>
> FROM CANADA WITH LOVE -- IT HAS BEGUN
>
> Posted By: Rayelan
> Date: Friday, 25 August 2000, 5:36 p.m.
>
> In Response To: Re: RECENT EXPLOSIONS AND CRASHES (Noah)
>
> FROM CANADA WITH LOVE -- IT HAS BEGUN --
>
> Thanks to Noah for finding this --
>
> I looked for this article this morning but could not find it -- and I even
> knew what papers to look in.
>
> After you read this, you will see that an old scandal from the Reagan/Bush
> days is popping up again. Q told us it would, Q also told us (in another
> article) that "The Ghosts of the Past Reappear. In the article of the same
> name, he started with a poem -- "The Ghosts of the Past Reappear, Casting
> their Shadows from Hull to Nir."
>
> The names John Hull and Amiram Nir are well known to researchers of the
> crimes of the 80's. But is Q trying to tell us something else?
>
> Remember Lt Col Jeremiah Mathis? Here is an article from the RMNews Egroups
> web page:
>
> http://www.egroups.com/message/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/2947
>
> Lt Col Jeremiah Mathis served as a senior intelligence officer in the U.S.
> Army and had access to top-secret information. He defected to Israel last
> week to be with his girlfriend, Rivka Artzi-Nir. And there is the Nir name
> again -- remember was Q said, "The Ghosts of the Past Reappear."
>
> When Q write things, he/they don't write them for ALL the readers of Rumor
> Mill -- their things are written for a select few who will understand the
> hidden messages.
>
> The article that Q sent is posted on the Forum. Here is the link:
>
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=4186
>
> The article is about the "suicide" of S&L operative Robert Corson. He
> supposedly killed himself in an El Paso hotel. In one of the articles about
> Lt Col Mathis, it said he lived in El Paso. All the other articles said he
> was from San Antonio.
>
> When you read the following article from the Canadian newspaper remember
> what my sources have said -- "The Canadian reporters have it wrong -- not
> ALL wrong -- just wrong. The playing field is right, they just don't have
> the right players yet."
>
> Regular readers of Rumor Mill News will remember that I have written quite a
> bit about the "back door" of the Promis software. This is how the infamous
> "fifth column" led by Chuckie Hayes was able to drain many bank accounts
> belonging to the crooks who call themselves our leaders.
>
> I also wrote that the Promis back door is the way that Faction Two and Three
> convinced many banks to redo their software in order to patch the "back
> door".
>
> The new software blocked the United States goverment and Israel from having
> open access to all the countries and institutions they used to spy on. But
> the new patch also had a back door -- the new "back door" gave Faction Two
> and Faction Three access to banks, justice files, and anything else that
> their "patch" was designed to protect.
>
> Can you begin to see that the best laid plans of mice and men are beginning
> to come undone?
>
> Stay tuned -- this may be the official beginning -- but I assure you -- It
> has barely begun! The best is yet to come.
>
> Rayelan
> ###
>
> >From Noah --
>
> : Here's something from Canada: Canada said probing possible
> : spying by U.S., Israel
>
> : Updated 11:54 AM ET August 25, 2000
>
> : OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canadian police are investigating whether
> : U.S. and Israeli spies used rigged computer software to hack
> : into
> : Canada's top secret intelligence files, the Toronto Star
> : newspaper
> : said Friday.
>
> : The paper said the probe revolved around Promis, a software
> : program first developed to assist prosecutors in the United
> : States
> : Department of Justice which was the centre of a U.S. scandal a
> : decade ago.
>
> : The Star said police were probing whether the software -- used
> : by
> : the Mounties and Canada's spy service to co-ordinate secret
> : investigations -- had been rigged with a so-called "trap
> : door"
> : allowing unauthorized access to sensitive data.
>
> : "That could include economic intelligence on trading
> : partners,
> : detailed information on the whereabouts of terrorism suspects
> : in
> : Canada or strategic information on the positions Canada
> : intends to
> : take in international relations," it said.
>
> : The Mounties did not return calls seeking comment on the
> : allegations and no one was immediately available at the
> : Israeli or
> : U.S. embassies.
>
> : Promis was developed by U.S. company Inslaw Inc., which
> : alleged
> : in the late 1980s that the U.S. government had stolen their
> : software
> : and -- working with Israel -- pedaled pirated versions to
> : intelligence
> : agencies around the world. The case was eventually thrown out
> : of
> : court.
>
> : The Toronto Star said the Mounties had interviewed a number of
> : people linked to the Promis affair to see whether there might
> : have
> : been a breach in Canadian national security.
>
> : Canada's national counterintelligence agency said in a June
> : report
> : that friendly nations were making concerted efforts to steal
> : sensitive
> : technology and information.
>
> : The Canadian Security Intelligence Service said outsiders were
> : particularly interested in aerospace, biotechnology,
> : chemicals,
> : communications, information technology, mining and metallurgy,
> : nuclear energy, oil and gas, and the environment.
>
> : ^ REUTERS@
>
> : Here's something from Canada: Canada said probing possible
> : spying by U.S., Israel
>
> : Updated 11:54 AM ET August 25, 2000
>
> : OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canadian police are investigating whether
> : U.S. and Israeli spies used rigged computer software to hack
> : into
> : Canada's top secret intelligence files, the Toronto Star
> : newspaper
> : said Friday.
>
> : The paper said the probe revolved around Promis, a software
> : program first developed to assist prosecutors in the United
> : States
> : Department of Justice which was the centre of a U.S. scandal a
> : decade ago.
>
> : The Star said police were probing whether the software -- used
> : by
> : the Mounties and Canada's spy service to co-ordinate secret
> : investigations -- had been rigged with a so-called "trap
> : door"
> : allowing unauthorized access to sensitive data.
>
> : "That could include economic intelligence on trading
> : partners,
> : detailed information on the whereabouts of terrorism suspects
> : in
> : Canada or strategic information on the positions Canada
> : intends to
> : take in international relations," it said.
>
> : The Mounties did not return calls seeking comment on the
> : allegations and no one was immediately available at the
> : Israeli or
> : U.S. embassies.
>
> : Promis was developed by U.S. company Inslaw Inc., which
> : alleged
> : in the late 1980s that the U.S. government had stolen their
> : software
> : and -- working with Israel -- pedaled pirated versions to
> : intelligence
> : agencies around the world. The case was eventually thrown out
> : of
> : court.
>
> : The Toronto Star said the Mounties had interviewed a number of
> : people linked to the Promis affair to see whether there might
> : have
> : been a breach in Canadian national security.
>
> : Canada's national counterintelligence agency said in a June
> : report
> : that friendly nations were making concerted efforts to steal
> : sensitive
> : technology and information.
>
> : The Canadian Security Intelligence Service said outsiders were
> : particularly interested in aerospace, biotechnology,
> : chemicals,
> : communications, information technology, mining and metallurgy,
> : nuclear energy, oil and gas, and the environment.
>
> : ^ REUTERS@
>
> Messages In This Thread
>
> RECENT EXPLOSIONS AND CRASHES (views: 178)
> Q -- Friday, 25 August 2000, 12:23 a.m.
> Re: RECENT EXPLOSIONS (views: 128)
> Patriotlad -- Friday, 25 August 2000, 7:10 a.m.
> NEW: Re: RECENT EXPLOSIONS AND CRASHES (views: 43)
> Noah -- Friday, 25 August 2000, 3:07 p.m.
> NEW: FROM CANADA WITH LOVE -- IT HAS BEGUN (views: 4)
> Rayelan -- Friday, 25 August 2000, 5:36 p.m.
> NEW: TURNING AND TURNING IN A WIDENING GYRE (views: 14)
> Rayelan -- Friday, 25 August 2000, 4:40 p.m.
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