...that there may be a mind control mindset seems plausible to me as an advantage for secret groups. another article on programming is raye's ( http://www.sightings.com/politics2/manchurian.htm ). for me, some intuits; questions dervied from the Greenbaum speech were: was the JFK assassination a black op of a 'delta' assassin; a 'delta' Jimmy Rosselli as a possible means to close out putative Kennedy investigations into mind control black ops in the CIA - among other reasons; was the seduction of Clinton via 'beta' op; a 'beta' Monica Lewinsky (she seemed to be doing most of the oral sex) as a means to weaken US foreign policy which the incident has - among other things; is the threat of an 'omega'; an 'omega' suicide bomber with a nuclear device rushing the Temple Mount in Jerusalem for real? i am curious as well about the manipulation of the 'background' for preconditioning; that which could lead to a contagion of violence. the perfect example is the Columbine High School(CHS) killings in Littleton, Colorado. There is a Group called the "Group With No Name" which has, as an alledged possible long-term agenda item, the desensitization of America toward violence. In the case of the CHS killings, I recall (but i did not collect the proof) that the media was asked to tone down the coverage as there was a predictable contagion of copy cat incidents - eventually this contagion numbered in the hundreds. the media in this country constantly reports on who killed who today - as an advertisement, IMO, for the benefit of their sponsers. it is very difficult to find a video game that does not include violence as part of its solution; creative and peaceful means of solving problems do not sell apparently. the coverge of Kosovo give priority to military strategems and glory eg the accuracy of laser-directed hits on targets but little attention is paid to brilliant (if any) diplomatic or peace efforts. why doesn't "pax" sell? is peace; a lasting peace kept off the market by secret Groups paying off media? IMO - the background desensitization of the American culture to violence really increases the effectiveness of those 300 or so (from what i recall from raye's article) individuals that are mind controlled to task and it increases the scope of a putative contagion; the number of copy catters. and i also bring in here the hypothesis that more these incidents will occur as we pass through the Millennium. so, in a full circle argument here, i would be concerned that the two teens that did the killing at CHS were 'omega' trained. i have expressed the concern in discussions with Karen C. Jones - http://members.tripod.com/~Curio_5_/index.html - that early teens who are computer-literate and video-gamed trained, if you will, are particularly susceptible to Internet recruitment into cults. in conclusion, i have surmised that mind control on both a cultural and individual level is an agenda item for secret groups. currently, i think it is necessary for American citizens to inquire with their local Congressional Reps on the issues of violence and mind control. we have seen some success by addressing, in mass, the issues and not the secret group. For example - terminator seed research has been stopped by Monsanto because of protests in Europe. what most don't know is that Monsanto CEO Robert Shapiro attended the secret Bilderberg meeting in Portugal and is attending the Bilderberg steering committee meeting in Washington this week. when i wrote a letter to my Congressional Rep about this link of Bilderberg secrecy to terminator seed technology, i received a reply that only included a recognition of the terminator seed issue...