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Reader AG: "You can put your views to the test."

Posted By: Lion
Date: Monday, 5-Dec-2011 23:58:36

In Response To: Reader R Returns: "Looking Forward to a Gog and Magog FREE World." (Lion)

-------------------

Thanks, AG

I'll let you know when I get an answer...

Meanwhile, I see a cultivated mindset that Iran is the criminal here.

I disagree.

I personally, do not believe Russia fears Iran.

Ahmadinejad is not foolish enough to attack anyone.

He knows Iran would be decimated in a few hours.

Nor has Iran attacked any other country in the past 600 years.

He also understands that the real psychopaths, the real war mongering fools are in the west and the UN.

Did you hear his speech at the UN nuclear conference?

Full Video: Ahmadinejad speech at UN nuclear conference:

http://youtu.be/4__ZZy-3IQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__ZZy-3IQs

At what point would the people of the world decide that - US, Canada, France, England, Germany, Brussels, or Israel, China, or Russia - should NOT obtain nuclear weapons?

Lion

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Re: Reader R Returns: 'Looking Forward to a Go....

You can put your views to the test. If you can marshal some resources you can ask the Russians, put it to them,

"That at what point would they decide that Iran should not obtain nuclear weapons?

At the point when they have successfully test fired an ICBM over Russian soil to land in the Artic Sea despite magnetic field anomalies?

Plus detonated an underground nuke on their, Iranian, soil? At what would they, the Russians, make their objections known to the world, with intent for action?"

If you are right they may spell out an answer.

You see, what they think, right or wrong, is also part of the equation.

Then there is the other perspective, but I won't go into that.

: ------------------

: Re: Reader R: 'Stand By for the Transition Phase.'

: G’day Lion,

: I trust that you are well and looking forward to a Gog and
: Magog free world.

: In his 29 November 2011 newwithviews.com article entitled
: 'ISRAEL, IRAN, ARMAGEDDON & THE COMING WAR OF GOG AND
: MAGOG', posted in
: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=223363
: , Paul McGuire predicates his views on the false premise
: that: ‘the prophet Ezekiel in Ezekiel 38 predicts a last
: days’ invasion of Israel, led by Russia, Iran and other
: Middle Eastern nations. The Ezekiel 38 invasion is also
: known as the War of Gog and Magog.

: The joke on Western Christendom, and especially on
: fundamentalist US Christians is that Gog and Magog are the
: Khazar Jews from the Kingdom of the North - Khazaria -
: originally situated north of the Caucuses mountains and in
: the southern steppes of Russia.

: Gog and Magog do NOT refer to the Russians but to the Khazars
: who have stealthly, in a slow-motion tidal wave already
: invaded from the north as per Biblical prophecy.

: The Khazars have not only invaded Palestine BUT THE ENTIRE
: WORLD, setting up Fifth Column enclaves everywhere: 'every
: nation on the "four quarters of the earth" has
: come within the pale of their influence. These descendants
: of the "pagan Khazars" who profess to be the true
: and original people of God have insinuated themselves into
: every bastion of power on earth.

: If there are any exceptions to that fact, they are as
: insignificant, in their estimation of things, as a fly to a
: rhinoceros.'

: Most Jews are either Sephardim or Ashkenazim.

: Sephardim is derived from Sepharad, the Hebrew word for Spain,
: and as they came from North Africa, they are probably the
: closest to actual Semitic Jews that can be established.

: They were expelled from Spain toward the beginning of the 16th
: century and immigrated to the eastern Mediterranean and the
: New World. They probably represent under 8% of Jews.

: Alan Brook says "The geographic location of the Ashkenaz,
: based on references in the Torah, may be centered around
: southern Russia, Armenia, and Asia Minor.

: The ashkaenoi (askae or askai) were the people also known as
: Phrygians or Mysians (Meshech)."

: Some historians claim that the name Ashkenaz applies
: exclusively to German Jews.

: However, more recent evidence shows that they had immigrated
: from the southern regions of Russia and western Asia and
: Asia Minor -- that region clearly identified as the
: location and origin of the ancient Khazars.

: The name originally indicated Iranians and was later given as
: the name of the god of Meshech, Men Askaenos. "… Brook
: adds, "that Ashkenaz did not become a definite Jewish
: designation for Germany until the eleventh century."

: -snip-

: "According to the explanation by the Talmud," writes
: Hugo Freiherr, "Ashkenaz thus means a country near the
: Black Sea between Ararat and the Caucasus, within the
: original region of the Khazar empire." 63

: This, again, is precisely the geographic locality of the
: Khazarian empire.

: The Talmudic observation is abetted by Scripture which names
: Ashkenaz as descending not from Shem but from Japheth
: through Gomer, and whose uncles were Magog and Tubal. (See
: Gen. 10:3)

: Ashkenaz (alt. spelling: Ashchenaz) is mentioned in but one
: scripture other than 1 Chronicles 6:1, which is only
: another reference to the genealogy as descending from
: Japheth.

: In the book of Jeremiah the prophet, God announces that Israel
: is to call upon other nations as allies in bringing His
: judgments against Babylon.

: Among those allies, who are not part of Israel or Judah, and
: therefore could not be numbered as Jews, is Ashchenaz. (See
: Jer. 51:27)

: UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and
: Cultural Organization, published a series of booklets
: entitled, The Race Question in Modern Science, in which one
: of the authors, Harry Shapiro, states: The wide range of
: variation between Jewish populations in their physical
: characteristics and the diversity of the gene frequencies
: of their blood groups render any unified racial
: classification for them a contradiction in terms.

: For although modern racial theory admits some degree of
: polymorphism or variation within a racial group, it does
: not permit distinctly different groups, measured by its own
: criteria of race, to be identified as one.

: To do so would make the biological purposes of racial
: classification futile and the whole procedure arbitrary and
: meaningless. ...despite the evidence efforts continue to be
: made to somehow segregate the Jews as a distinct racial
: entity. 64

: Thus, attempting to claim the existence of a "race"
: of Jews has been proven to be an anthropological
: impossibility.

: Though their God consistently warned them against
: intermingling themselves amongst non-Jewish races, their
: miscegenistic tendencies are well documented, and has
: resulted in their complete erasure as a distinct, genetic
: peoples.

: When, inevitably, there was mixing of Western European and
: Khazarian Jews, there was a notable difference between the
: educational levels of the two Jewish sub-cultures.

: The Khazars greatly admired their vastly less numerous but far
: more learned Western (German speaking) brethren and quickly
: adopted their language, education and cultural practices.

: This resulted, also, in an assimilation of their other talents
: in the area of economics, business and things politik.

: "The Khazars were not descended from the Tribes,"
: says Koestler, "but, as we have seen, they shared a
: certain cosmopolitanism and other social characteristics
: with their co-religionists.
: …

: In response to those who believe that Gog in the land of Magog
: is specifically Russia, Revelation 20:8 provides a
: clarification as to the true geographical region of Gog in
: the last days: "the nations which are in the four
: quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog,..."

: This world force, from "the four quarters of the
: earth" is ubiquitous, not existing in Russia only; not
: just exclusive to the area of the compass north of
: Palestine.

: The names Gog and Magog appear to be used only as an
: indication of their origins, not their final location.

: There is but one identifiable group which fits that
: "ubiquitous" designation of occupying "the
: four quarters of the earth";

: a group whose religious-cultural identity has remained intact,
: though their ethnic origins have vanished in antiquity;

: that, in spite of two thousand years of being decimated by
: persecution, forced emigration, disease and war, have still
: survived;

: whose roots are precisely where prophetic Scripture says they
: would be -- in the northland of Magog, the southern steppes
: of Russia.

: Just as the Jews, by misinterpreting Scripture to suit their
: nationalistic desires, missed the first coming of their
: Messiah, so also have Christians, in the same way,
: reinventing the same mistakes, missed the prophetic issues
: of the last days -- and -- the second coming of Messiah.

: They have placed the invasion of Palestine as being sometime
: in the future when it has already taken place, and in such
: an unexpected manner as to have come upon them, as does the
: Messiah, like "a thief in the night."

: See: http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/khazars_2.html

: -End Snip-

: Similarly, Christians have failed to recognise that the
: Apocalyptic times in which we live are about to segue into
: a new epoch in which the Creator of this universe will once
: again walk this Earth.

: (The sooner the better, R, our Earth must be wrestled away
: from the Satanic forces presently having their day in in
: the darkness, so that we may once again have our day in the
: Light. - Lion)

: See:
: http://abundanthope.net/pages/hazel/A-Father-s-Plea--The-Creator.shtml

: Blessings,

: R
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Articles In This Thread

Reader R Returns: "Looking Forward to a Gog and Magog FREE World."
Lion -- Sunday, 4-Dec-2011 09:22:28
Reader J: "...Gog is Satan, and Magog are his followers and will be turned into ashes in the sight of all..."
Lion -- Sunday, 4-Dec-2011 13:23:01
Reader AG: "You can put your views to the test."
Lion -- Monday, 5-Dec-2011 23:58:36


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