(1) ***Subject: Re: OBL - Taliban Defies U.S. on Bin Laden Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:08:40 +0000 From: Steve Reed To: Phillip Henika
In message , Phillip Henika writes
:Taliban Defies U.S. on Bin Laden
:
:Associated Press
:Jan. 31, 2000; 4:33 p.m. EST
:
:PESHAWAR, Pakistan –– The president of Afghanistan's ruling Taliban
:militia vowed Monday not to be pressured by the United States to turn
:over accused terrorist Osama bin Laden.
:
:Addressing hundreds of students at an Islamic religious school in
:Pakistan's northern border town of Akora Khattak, some 30 miles from
:Peshawar, Mullah Mohammed Rabbani accused the West, led by the United
:States, of uniting against the Muslim world to dictate terms.
:
: "But we will not surrender or be intimidated," he said.
:
:Rabbani, who is president of the Taliban's leadership council, was in
:Pakistan on an official visit, which will include a meeting Tuesday with
:Pakistan's army ruler Gen. Pervez Musharraf and President Rafiq Tarar.
Hmmm.......this is tantamount to chatting with the Yanks, I think - no wonder he protests his attachment to the fabulous OBL so loudly!
:
:The backbone of the Taliban movement in Afghanistan is made up of
:graduates of religious schools in Pakistan, many of them in the
:country's deeply conservative Northwest Frontier Province, which borders
:Afghanistan.
:
:Rabbani referred specifically to the U.N. and U.S. sanctions against the
:Taliban, who rule 90 percent of Afghanistan. They are fighting a
:northern-based opposition on several fronts.
: These "sanctions" were intended to make the Taliban dependent on the CIA's drug-smuggling route through Pakistan, but they have since found their own outlets.
>The United Nations imposed limited sanctions against the Taliban last
:Nov. 14 to press the orthodox militia to hand over bin Laden for trial
:in the United States or a third country on charges of terrorism.
:Washington banned all trade and investment.
: How very high-minded of the UN - to press for OBL to stand trial on charges of terrorism based on no evidence whatsoever!
>Rabbani said the sanctions have had little effect in Afghanistan, a
:country battered by 20 years of war.
:
:"We are not dying of hunger. The sanctions have made no difference to
:our lives," Rabbani said.
: As I said.......
>Pakistan is one of only three countries to recognize the Taliban
:government in Afghanistan and is considered one of its strongest
:supporters.
: - as long as it is doing what Washington wants.
>The United States has pressed Pakistan to use its influence to have the
:Taliban hand over bin Laden, who has been living in Afghanistan since
:1996.
:
:There was no official word from either Pakistan or Afghanistan whether
:the issue of bin Laden will be raised in meetings between Rabbani and
:Pakistani leaders.
: The burning issue is actually the campaign (Harakat ul Mujahhideen) led by Maulana Azhar Masood, to destabilise Kashmir (India is another target for fragmentation under the NWO-plan) The question is whether the CIA's Islamist armies in Central Asia are going to turn east - now Grozny has fallen - or step up attacks against Russia on a broader front. -- Steve Reed
Philip Henika
(2) ***Subject: Re: Newsweek: bin Laden 'Procurement Agent' in U.S. Arrested by Jordan; Role Was to Get Computers, Satellite Phones, Surveillance Equipment Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:36:39 +0000 From: Steve Reed To: Phillip Henika
In message , Phillip Henika writes
:Sunday January 30, 11:36 am Eastern Time
:
:Company Press Release
:
:SOURCE: Newsweek
:
:Newsweek: bin Laden
:'Procurement Agent' in U.S.
:Arrested by Jordan; Role Was
:to Get Computers, Satellite
:Phones, Surveillance Equipment
Note also:
In message , liberius writes
:
:TERROR
:
:The Plot Thickens
But whose plot is it?
:
:
:Arrests and investigations yield clues to the broad reach of bin Laden's network
:
:By Donatella Lorch and Daniel Klaidman
:Newsweek, February 7, 2000
:
:
:When Yussef Karroum drove his Chevrolet Celebrity station wagon across the
:border at Blaine, Wash., last Thursday at 9 a.m., he told Customs officials that
:he was entering the United States "to get gasoline, milk and cheese." Suspicious
:of the reply, Customs officers directed the 34-year-old Moroccan with a Canadian
:passport toward inspectors
SNIP
> Bomb-sniffing dogs (named Leon and
:Hilda) were brought to the car, as well as a device that can identify traces of
:explosives. The ma-chine identified nitroglycerin particles, law-enforcement
:officials say.
The thinner the evidence, the thicker the plot - to pin something on somebody!
-- Steve Reed
I think these are all people who, like Ben Laden himself, are, or were, employed by American security agencies to oppose Russian and Iranian influence in the Middle East, but who have begun to follow their own agenda. I think it unlikely that any of the alleged horrific outrages were envisaged by them. I think these outrages have been invented by the Americans as an excuse to wind up networks which they themselves established, but which are no longer answering to the controls.
:
-- Steve Reed
Philip Henika
(3)***Subject: Re: OBL - Dadallah - Taliban Urges Help for Chechens Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:51:08 +0000 From: Steve Reed To: Phillip Henika
In message , Phillip Henika writes
:Hi Steve - got a dumb question for you - could Maulana Dadallah be the real
:Osama bin Laden?
:
:- "Dadallah lost his leg below the knee during the 10-year Russian
:intervention in Afghanistan." (1)
From what I've heard, OBL walks with a stick. But so do many people - especially those who have been the objects of assassination-attempts.
:
:- ""Dadallah is a very famous man . . . I heard once on Radio Iran the
:opposition saying the Taliban were planning a big offensive in the north
:because Dadallah ... was seen there [in Chechnya]," said Aziz Khan, a Kabul
:shopowner. (1)
:
:Philip Henika
:
:(1)***Taliban Urges Help for Chechens
:
:Associated Press
:Jan. 31, 2000; 2:58 p.m. EST
:
:KABUL, Afghanistan –– Muslim nations should be ashamed for not helping
:Chechen militants in their fight against Russia, the Taliban's foreign
:minister said Monday, but refused to confirm reports that Afghan troops
:are fighting in Chechnya.
: Curious - others should be ashamed because they have not sent troops - the man who says this is ashamed to say whether he has sent troops or not. You would expect him to say, "we have sent troops, why don't you?" or "we have not sent troops, and we're ashamed too!"
Whatever the truth of this, it is clear that the Taleban are backing what is essentially a NATO scheme to destabilise southern Russia - and yet they refuse to extradite Ben Laden. Curious again.
>"They are my brothers. They are Muslims," Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil said in
:an interview with The Associated Press. "They are not terrorists they
:are fighting for their freedom, for their independence against Russia."
: Associated Press is a notorious CIA media-outlet, of course. Perhaps we should just disbelieve the entire report!
>Muttawakil, however, declined to say what help his government has
:offered the Chechens.
:
:But a senior Taliban commander said Taliban troops have gone to Chechnya
:and are led by one of the Taliban's best-known commanders, Maulana
:Dadallah. The troops left Afghanistan for Chechnya 20 days ago, said the
:commander, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
: Then comes the "leak"!
>The commander noted that in 1979, Russia sent troops to Afghanistan to
:fight Islamic guerrillas who were battling a regime allied with Moscow.
:At the same time, he said, Russian Muslims aided Islamic fighters.
:
:Dadallah lost his leg below the knee during the 10-year Russian
:intervention in Afghanistan.
:
:"Dadallah is a very famous man . . . I heard once on Radio Iran the
:opposition saying the Taliban were planning a big offensive in the north
:because Dadallah ... was seen there," said Aziz Khan, a Kabul shopowner.
: AP attempting to glorify a hero to rival OBL?
>At several military bases around Kabul on Monday, dozens of Taliban
:soldiers were seen congregating outside, sitting in trucks, squatting on
:the sidewalks wrapped in blankets against the winter cold.
: Meaning - that they were just off to Grozny? If that's what's intended, one has to ask how they would get there (it's about 1200 miles away across several, hostile, international borders)
>The Taliban expanded their relationship with the Chechen militants by
:allowing a Chechen Embassy to open in Kabul a week ago and recognizing
:Chechnya as an independent nation.
:
:However, there is no one at the two-story building designated as the
:Chechen Embassy. The rusty brown steel gates are shuttered and owners of
:nearby shops said no Chechens were working in the mission.
:
:"The Chechens opened the embassy and then left for the airport," said
:one shop owner, Rehmatullah. "Maybe they have gone to bring their
:ambassador back."
Curious also. It sounds rather as though they were forced to leave. I think there is a power-struggle going on within the Taliban, between those who wish to take dollars and fight Russians (Mutawakil, Dadallah) and those who wish to take roubles and fight Americans (OBL) -- Steve Reed
Philip Henika
