The Octopus companies use the Echelon Project by data mining and collecting economic information about their competitors large or small.

As an example: ATT and SCR-Thompson were both bidding on a contract from Bazil. ATT with the help of Echelon intercepted some information concerning the SCR-Thompson communication with Bazil's government. Based on this information ATT had the competive edge and it won the contract with the help of Echelon.

Remember these four companies IBM, ATT, LOR, and LMT are major contractors for NSA. If you doubt this just write the NSA under the FOIA and ask.

NSA is a great agency provided it works within it charter; but the tapping of information by these companies is an outright scandal and illegal.

Also consider LOR, it's on the NYSE. Check the company out. It is incorporated in Bermuda. Why is a $2 billion dollar American company that handles ultra secret projects incorporated in a foreign country?

Back in the 1970, LOR had a big scandal and mob connections. Recently their is the problem of Bernie Schwartz, the CEO of LOR, and his contributions to the present Administration.

LMT when it was just Lockheed back in the 1970's had ties with the Yakuusa. I know this is old information, but it shows these companies will and have dealt with anyone.

IBM corporation is a convicted felon as of last year. Yes felon, for selling supercomputers to Russia. I assure you if you tried to do such a thing you would be in jail and they would throw away the key. But IBM just got a $8.5M fine and all was hush hush.

GmH and LOR just had a big investigation for selling missile technology to the chinese.

So in conclusion I would not worry about the NSA per se, but I am very concerned of the missuse of Project Echelon by these octopus companies. This could only occur if there are some bad apples in NSA.

This may be a hard pill for some to take, but years ago when I consulted for the GAO on certain projects I use to say, "I found out that motherhood was prostitution."

Dominica is real. The private Project Echelon is real. These companies are real IBM, LOR, LMT and GmH.

Finally the concerns of the late Senator Church is real. Who are watching the contractors of Project Echelon?

Remember Casolero and Standorf tried to alert the Congress and it ended in their death via murder.