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JEFFERSON IS HERE!

Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Saturday, 8-Sep-2001 21:29:38

In Response To: JEFFERSON WOULD BE PROUD (oliverhaddo)

: Rayelan, I understand your annoyance that a posting about
: Thomas Jefferson's alleged dalliance with a slave named
: Sally Hemmings triggered a thread that quickly departed
: from the subject. The time it takes his portrait to load on
: your front page (sigh) is a measure of how important you
: felt it was.

Oliver,

I didn't realize that it took a long time for the picture to load. My new computer is so fast that I fear I forget about the rest of you!! I will try not to be so self-centered in the future. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Tom has been up there for almost a week now -- I think I will take him off the front page and put him here!! I think we have certainly made people remember Thomas Jefferson.

The reason I have followed the debate about Tom and Sally is I believe his alledged "sexual" dalliance with a slave was being used to topple him off his "Founding Father Pedastal". I have seen this done to many of our Founding Fathers and our Heros. And I believe that the people who were trumpeting the Tom and Sally love affair were MORE interested in making Thomas Jefferson look like Bill Clinton than in anything else. Remember, Bill Clinton is alledged to have fathered a son by a Black Little Rock Prostitute. People who have seen the child says he looks EXACTLY like Bill Clinton. The DNA study in THIS case is also flawed!!

My own take on the Tom and Sally affair is influenced by stories I have heard from Virginians. I was married to a Virginian who came from one of the founding families of Virginia. He attended "Mr. Jefferson's School", as the University of Virginia is called. He and his mother were a wealth of information about the history of Virginia.

One of the stories that either he or his mother told me, (I have shared this story with Patricia Crouch), was about Sally Hemmings and Thomas Jefferson's wife.

The story I was told is Sally and Jefferson's wife were sisters. I was told that the two girls were raised together and knew they were sisters. I was also told that Sally was taken to Montecello when her half sister married Thomas Jefferson.

When I first heard the story that the decendents of Sally Hemmings had Jefferson DNA, I thought to myself that it would be natural for a grieving husband to be comforted in the arms of his wife's sister. Whoever told me the story about Sally and Tom's wife being sisters, emphasized the fact that Sally WAS a real beauty!!

I do not know if the story of his wife and Sally being half sisters is factual. It may be one of the many myths that populate history books and family legends.

My own beliefs about whether or not Jefferson had sex with a slave, center more about whether or not he loved Sally. From what I was told by my husband and/or his mother, at least THEY, and whoever told THEM the story, believed he did.

I have a hard time understanding people who can hate a person based on the person's DNA. I have always looked beyond the "case" the soul is "encased" in, to the spirit that is dwelling in the body. Since I also believe in reincarnation, or the continuity of the soul, it is hard for me to understand people who can hate Blacks, or Jews or any race! A soul can incarnate in any color body it wants to... this is the BIG secret that religions and the NWO controllers don't want any of us to know.

People who hate Blacks are destined to come back in a Black body!! People who hate Jews will end up Jewish! Men who hate women will be born as a woman. People who hate homosexuals will get a chance to walk in their shoes by being born gay! NO WONDER THESE TRUTHS ARE DENIED BY WESTERN RELIGIONS!!

If people knew this... how could we perpetuate war? War is based on hatred. If we REALLY knew that we were all God's children and our Father loves each one of us equally, then HOW could any of us HATE one of our brothers of sisters enough to kill him/her or to make him or her a slave?

It's simple... we are TAUGHT TO HATE! The people who teach us to hate have a major stake in keeping us separated and hating each other. If we DON'T hate each other, we might join together and turn the anger where it needs to be turned... ON THE BLOODLINE OF INTERCONNECTED FAMILIES WHO HAVE USED AND ABUSED HUMANITY FOR COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF YEARS!

In this day and age, we refer to these people as the New World Order. Throughout the ages, these souls have wandered in and out of powerful families and royal bloodlines throughout the world. In one age they may be on the throne of France, in the next life they may be the rich bankers who are financing the revolution to bring down the royal family of France!

The fire that feeds the hatred of one race is fed to us at the moment by the media and by people who are trying to destroy our country by dividing us. If we hate each other, we will eventually destroy our nation. That is their plan! Yes, that is the Plan the NWO has for America.

People like Jesse Jackson, either knowingly or unknowingly, are working for the NWO to destroy not only the Black race, but the United States as well! (I have often wondered if someone didn't get to him with the CIA's mind control techniques and "overlay" another agenda.)

Anyone who has spent any amount of time reading the things I have written about the NWO's plans for the United States, knows that a race war is in the Plan. Not just ANY race war, but a race war that is designed to eliminate the Black race from the planet!!

(I wonder what is in black DNA that makes the NWO fear them so much?)

The slave reparations that is being talked about in South Africa will cause such a back lash here in this country that I suspect we will return to "separate and unequal", as it was before the revolution of the 60's.

Hatred is dividing this country. And with the United Nations trumpeting things like "slave reparations"... which I will remind you... Rumor Mill News warned you about over a year ago... we have little chance of sanity taking hold.

Where is THOMAS JEFFERSON when we need him?? Where is his voice of reason?

Maybe he is quite happy, living a normal life, as a normal man. Maybe he even lives in the Virginia that he loved so much. I wonder what color his skin is this life?

Thomas, we thank you for the great country you helped create. I only wish the people who are currently living here could become more worthy of living in this Great Country that you and my ancestors sacrificed to bring into being!

Maybe the only way the current residents will learn to appreciate what they have, is by taking it away from them! Maybe this is just one of the many cycles that humanity must live through!

ASSAULT ON A FOUNDING FATHER

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: But in a serendipitous fashion that annoying thread turned
: into a reasoned and well-mannered dialog about freedom of
: speech versus responsibility for one's words. So if the
: lead post was about Thomas Jefferson, the thread quickly
: bypassed what some of us thought was ethno-hatred, and
: centered on a topic quite dear to the man regarded as the
: Father of or Bill of Rights.

: We also discovered that Zapper is not that jug-eared bouncer
: in your neighborhood dive, beady eyes moving everywhere,
: brass knuckles in his pocket. Z revealed himself through
: this dialog as one who takes his job with military
: seriousness, but who also modulates it with sensitivity,
: and with a deep reluctance to interfere with free
: expression. Someone it was once fashionable to call a
: "good American." I think even Mark would agree.

: So I don't think it was a total "Off Topic" thread
: at all. Sure, it detracted from the question of whether Tom
: was a mescegenating philanderer (I for one do not care; but
: I can see the dark propaganda value in asserting he slept
: with black women). Yet in the end it was in perfect harmony
: with the spirit of the man.

: When you share a dream with others, you have to let them run
: with it, and they will sometimes take it places you never
: imagined, so you will hardly recognize it.

: Love,

: oliver

: BTW, it's a very handsome portrait!

Articles In This Thread

JEFFERSON WOULD BE PROUD
oliverhaddo -- Saturday, 8-Sep-2001 13:14:39
SPELLING CORRECTION
oliverhaddo -- Saturday, 8-Sep-2001 15:31:06
JEFFERSON IS HERE!
Rayelan -- Saturday, 8-Sep-2001 21:29:38

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