This is by seer EarthStar:
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The Fall of the Roman Empire
"A Turkish general said on August 2nd that there are plans for the US to carry out military style regime change in Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Which pretty much makes sense in terms of the US/Israeli dominance of the Middle East. I think it was in July that a Pakistani general told the media that if America invade Iran then pakistan's nuclear missiles would be used to defend Iran from US aggression.
The current world wars are similar to the fall of Rome, and in some way give us hope that we will be able to establish a world based on peace and mutual cooperation after the present Empire has fallen into ashes.
The similarities between the two Empires are astonishing.
I watched some of these Google videos on the secret Nazi UFO's, and old footage of the Third Reich.
(See FIRST CONTACT page for those: http://EarthStar.de/Contact/Front.htm )
People carrying the Roman battle standards, the architecture, the beliefs, the gods and the occult lodges. In one video it was suggested that Von Braun was working for the Americans very early on during the war. Apparently the Secret German and American projects shared the same scientists, the same plans, and the same manufacturing base. While the war was going on...
The ideals of the Nazi Occult Empire were secretly transferred to America after the war, and its occult ideals were perpetuated in hidden forms throughout all areas of American commerce, government, and financial institutions.
It is clear that the same geeks who were behind the destruction of Germany are behind the current destruction of the United States.
Today, no one disputes that the burning of the Reichstag in Berlin was carried out by the Nazis in order to seize political power. The government buildings were burned down shortly before the German elections. This is a clear occult symbol, the old was burned, destroyed in fire (Agni) - and the new Phoenix (Hitler's Nazis) were to arise from the ashes.
The German people did not vote Hitler and the Nazi party into power after the burning of the Reichstag. The Nazis did not get the majority they desired. The Catholic Centre party and the Conservatives joined with Hitler to pass the legislation giving Hitler dictatorial powers (the SPD socialist party was outlawed).
Of course the Catholics and the Conservatives were the arch old enemy of the communists. Knowing the German people, I doubt that Germany would have become a communist slave society. For the Nazis this was a convenient enemy, similar to today's Islam.
At the time of early Rome Augustus defeated Mark Antony (27BC) and reorganised the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire. Some historians argue that Julius Ceasar's appointment as perpetual dictatorship (44BC), was the beginning of the Roman Empire.
With the fall of the Roman Empire the Eastern and Western Empires were fighting to establish dominance of their own territories. At every corner of the globe Rome had to exercise military power to try to maintain control of its resources.
Until then the Empire had existed due to the fact that these struggles and wars were not breaking out. The Romans had control in the same way the Americans had control in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's.
At the end of the Roman Empire, regions not only began to resent being controlled by the Romans, they rebelled. And the rebellions were at every corner of the Empire. Local military commanders rebelled, as will happen in the Middle East.
The US and British maintain a military presence in Iraq to prevent the Iraqi government from aligning itself with Iran.
The Romans legions did not want to endlessly live in lands far from home, and so the local populations were used to police the various regions by making them Roman soldiers.
This meant that the local populations eventually had command of Roman armaments, supplies, military styles and strategies. These well equipped armies later turned against their masters as commanders and regional stratagists conspired to get rid of the Romans.
Why pay taxes to Rome? The taxes would be paid to local government leaders, to local regional leaders and used for the regional military governments. It is the same in the Middle East now. Why be economic slaves to the west? Why should western powers control local and regional resources? Why should they control governments? Who are they to come into another sovereign state and control what goes on there?
It's the fall of the Roman Empire all over again, and as the Empire falls it becomes increasingly violent, it attempts to do through military might what it cannot do through agreement. They are not going to get this kind of control through military might.
The US/UK soldiers will eventually get annoyed at being deployed overseas for longer periods of time. They will want to go home. The clock is ticking, time is running out.
When the western military powers finally hand over control to the local forces, the local forces will rebel, they will ask: Why are we being controlled by the west? They will turn around and seek to establish local and regional control of the resources. Exactly as happened during the last days of the Roman Empire.
The "barbarians" who fought their way to Rome were well trained by the Romans themselves, and they knew how to payback what was due. There was no way the Roman Empire could maintain the level of control it had achieved through ongoing mililtary campaigns across the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.
The regional powers had simply waited, built up their powers and had prepared for the rebellions that then spread like wildfire from region to region.
The reason the British foreign office are tearing out their hair, is because they know control cannot be affected through brute force, bombing, killing, genocide...
Bush and Blair have done more in the past month to destroy diplomacy than all the Middle Eastern wars combined.
Silently, the whole Arab world has decided this cannot continue.
The effects of these decisions will be seen across the Middle East over the next two generations as the small children who survive the killings bring up their children and their grandchildren."
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Here the ongoing analysis - with new hotlinks -
at blog SOCRATES CAVE - Socrates & The State
http://socratescave.blogspot.com/2006/08/fall-of-roman-empire.html
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Doris Lessing: On Dreams & The Ending of Empires
BILL MOYERS: But dreams are not rubbish.
DORIS LESSING: They're rubbish if they lead you to very unrealistic actions. That's what's bad about them. If you're dreaming about wonderful Utopias, and great horizons, and great dawns and all that, you're not really seeing what's there, and what could be done.
BILL MOYERS: Well, of course, you spent a lot of time trying to undo the British Empire. And I would say that you were successful. You and history.
DORIS LESSING: You know, when I was a girl, the idea that the British Empire could ever end was absolutely inconceivable. And it just disappeared, like all the other empires. You know, when people talk about the British Empire, they always forget that all the European countries had empires. You know, the French, and the Portuguese, and the Dutch, and you name it, excepting Germans, because they lost theirs. But they all had empires. And that's one of the themes of the …
BILL MOYERS: The sweetest dream? Do you ever stop writing?
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SEE:
DORIS LESSING - CANOPUS IN ARGOS
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91519
IDRIES SHAH - THE WAY OF THE SUFI
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91523
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See here another analysis by seer EarthStar at RMN:
