Tony Malone's essay posted below has some interesting points, but like a good Swiss cheese, it is full of holes.
A) Unless I missed one, ALL his Biblical quotes are from the Old Testament which is only the first foundation of Christianity. The Christians he refers to are fundamentalists, many of whom seem not to have gotten past the violence, warring and Draconian "God" of the OT. If his examples are still so obsessively focused on the OT (as Malone implies), how can they call themselves "Christians"?
B) The writer pretty much ignores Jesus' New Testament message of peace, love, charity, compassion, forgiveness, and tolerance. A true "Christian" is defined as one who lives this message which was meant to improve on, surpass, and enLighten OT Jewish law.
C) If Pres. Bush is really studying the Talmud (proof?) I would be delighted, as it could give him some insight into Zionist and Jewish logic and argumentation, and might even help his administration get into the heads of the Israeli rulers. (The Talmud is not part of the Old Testament, but is a collection of Jewish "commentary", ongoing through the ages.)
D) The "Lion of Judah" (represented by the astrological sign of Leo) has IMO, long ago seen its day of power. Its memory may be surfacing now as our world enters its opposite sign of Aquarius, but Aquarius elevates the 'common man". Thus "Everyman" attains personal sovereignty along with TRUE democracy, equality, justice, This new paradigm brings a sense of connectedness among the entire human family. No more slaves. No more tyrants. No more starvation, torture nor injustice.
As Lord of the Piscean Age, Jesus' teachings set the stage for this Aquarian mindset, Sadly only those who can grasp that truth and those teachings will be able to participate.Those who are 'stuck" in Old Testament thinking are doomed to live its violence, warring and injustice. We are as we think!
Those are just a few of the holes I noted in Malone's Swiss cheese.
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Frankly, I am weary of the recently popularized game of "religion bashing". It is a game by those who have just awakened to the fact that their own religious training wasn't perfect, and perhaps they are annoyed at themselves for having swallowed everything whole, and not having questioned their teachers.
Like all other institutions (e.g. corporations) all organized "religions" have done some very beautiful and wonderful things for our world along with some very nasty and evil things. I have a number of friends and students who call themselves "recovering Catholics" who are angry about much of what was taught to them. I have other friends who grew out of Judaism into wider horizons and gentler mindsets. I have Moslem friends whose behavior has been far more "Christian" than many who call themselves that.
Some of my disillusioned friends have resorted to condemning all religions, but most, thankfully, have used their religious training and backgrounds as springboards into greater spirituality and truthseeking. Isn't that what we are all here for?
So let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. In the USA we arguably still have the world's greatest smorgasbord of religious choices (including atheism and agnosticism) all of which ideologies we are still free to follow as we choose. THAT is what "separation of church and state" is REALLY all about.
Is atheism the next step beyond religion bashing? Atheism is clearly encouraged by the dark ones of the PTB (c.f. communism) which would love to see everyone separated from his/her "God Within" so that Big Brother can step into the void and become everyone's new "god". We saw this demonstrated in many East European nations in the last half of the 20th century.
I wish peace and enLightenment to all beings.
Namaskar
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: tena's note: FINALLY! Someone who actually is thinking about
: religion and the place IT MADE FOR ITSELF, in this world.
: This could certainly explain why Bush studies the TALMUD
: every day! I think I want to be a priest. Yes, a priest
: with a GUN!
: The Holy Babble
: By Tony Malone
: 7-31-6
: [note: I do not believe that the people who today call
: themselves Jews have any blood relation to the Israelites
: of the Old Testament. When I speak of the ancient
: Israelites, it should not be taken to have anything to do
: with modern
: Jewish people. My agenda is to show the Israelite plan of the
: Bible, and how modern Zionism is consistent with its
: instructions. You don't have to be Jewish to follow an old
: plan, thus an attack on Zionism should not be seen as an
: attack on Jews.]
: "You will arise and have compassion on Zion, for it is
: time to show favor to her; the appointed time has
: come." (Psalm 102:13)
: With all the attention focused on Jewish Zionists, the
: Christian Right's unquestioning support of Israel, and
: naughty Talmud quotes being pulled out of hats, people are
: ignoring part of the Zionist picture. A BIG part. The
: modern
: Zionist Plan was fomented more than a century ago by some very
: ambitious Jewish men. They've been largely successful at
: getting the Jews of the world on their side, telling them
: that Zionism (their new version of it) and Judaism and
: being Jewish are all the same thing. Many Jews are so
: afraid of non-Jews, because of the Holocaust, that they'll
: follow their leaders over a cliff rather than face the rest
: of humanity. But Jews, being only 0.2% of the North
: American population and 0.02% of the world's population,
: can hardly be the sole supporters of Zionism. Importantly,
: not all Jews are Zionists.
: Numbers are required for the plan to work. There are a billion
: Catholics, and another billion (more or less) Christians of
: various denominations in the world today, a third of the
: total world population. Why do so many of them
: blindly support Israel? Why has Zionist behaviour been allowed
: and encouraged for a century by so many non-Jews?
: Because the Bible ORDERS it. The so-called Christian nation of
: America is actually a Zionist nation. The Christian world
: is a Zionist world. Jewish Zionists know this. They don't
: have to fool anyone into anything. Christians are
: following the same Old Testament the Zionists are following,
: and they all received their orders two thousand years ago.
: Why do people ignore this? Because all who call themselves
: "Christian" are beholden in some way to this
: book, because they're convinced that these Israelite
: priests, who straggled around the Middle East 3,000 years
: ago in tents and offered animal sacrifices, actually spoke
: to the Creator of the Universe. And they believe that this
: Creator gave to these primitive priests a mysterious set of
: rules for all of mankind to live by. Without this belief,
: Judaism and
: Christianity collapse; without the revelation, they have
: nothing. But let's be serious. Some "Israelite"
: religious fanatics created a book two thousand years ago
: about how much more favoured they were by "God"
: than everyone else. And they said that "God" told
: them to write it. Should anyone fall for their ridiculous
: story? Oh! A third of the world's population has decided
: that this revelation is true, that this obscure little band
: of priests had the right message and
: they were the first humans to get it right! Metaphysical
: concepts have been developed by philosophers all through
: history; thousands of gods have come and gone (Osiris was
: the greatest god for three thousand years - Jesus needs to
: survive another thousand just to be in a tie position). But
: NOW we know we've got the correct answer.
: This belief is illogical, since no one knows one single thing
: about any of the people who wrote the Bible. Yet, the world
: has decided to trust the authors as though they were
: intimate friends.
: Why? Because the whole book is about being on the winning
: team. And when people read it, they are immediately jealous
: and covetous of the supreme Israelite
: position. They all want to be included. So they find ways for
: the Bible to be about them.
: Would you like to be on the winning team? First, make sure
: you're an Israelite. Their god is planning to smash all
: their enemies for them. If you're not an Israelite, become
: their slaves. It's the only way you'll avoid the tumult.
: "I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and
: they shall be drunk with their own blood as with wine. Then
: all flesh shall know that I am the Lordthe Mighty One of
: Jacob [Israel]." (Isaiah 49:26)
: This next quote should cause concern. The Israelite god has
: blessed Israel, and everyone will understand this when they
: finally realize that Israel will never go away.
: "Then the nations will know that I the Lord sanctify
: Israel, when my sanctuary is in the midst of them for
: evermore." (Ezekiel 37:28)
: For evermore. If you are on the winning team, peoples will
: come to you to be educated in your "ways". You
: and your god will rule over all nations from the temple in
: Jerusalem, the mountain of Zion.
: "And many nations shall come, and say: "Come, let us
: go up to the mountain of the Lord [Zion], to the house of
: the God of Jacob [Israel], that he may teach us his ways
: and we may walk in his paths." For out of Zion shall
: go forth the law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
: And he shall judge between many people, and shall decide
: for nations far off." (Micah 4:2-3)
: People will have to turn over all their possessions to the
: Israelites. We shouldn't really have any problem with the
: Israeli Debt-Money banking system. The Bible orders that
: all land and wealth are to go into the hands of Israel. A
: few of God's promises to the Israelites: "Foreigners
: will build your walls, and their kings will serve youYour
: gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day
: or night, so that men may bring you the wealth of the
: nations" (Isaiah 60:10-11)
: "You will feed on the wealth of nations, and in their
: riches you will boast..." (Isaiah 61:6)
: The king of Israel (the messiah) will "judge"
: everyone, meaning he will create a single world law system,
: controlling even nations far away. People's means to
: protect themselves (their swords and spears) will be taken
: away; they'll be forced to smelt their weapons into farming
: tools. All will become farm slaves and must never be
: allowed to revolt; must never again remember how to fight
: back.
: "He shall judge between many peoples, and shall decide
: for strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their
: swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning
: hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
: neither shall
: they learn war anymore" (Micah 4:3)
: Of course, many Jews and Christians have a romantic
: interpretation of that last quote. They believe the messiah
: will bring peace to the world. If you thinkyou'll find
: slavery under the Israelites peaceful, then go for it.
: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations
: around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy
: some of the temporary residents living among you and
: members of their clans born in your country, and they will
: become your property. You can will them to your children as
: inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but
: you must not rule over your fellow Israelites
: ruthlessly." (Leviticus 25:44-46)
: The plan is for one group of people, one set of tribes,
: essentially ONE FAMILY, to be raised up by their own people
: to a place above others. Other peoples are to be robbed,
: enslaved and murdered, but Israelites may not treat each
: other this way. In this manner the Israelites will gradually
: amass all power and wealth into their family. By keeping
: all parts of their family strong, they become like a
: corporation that goes out to absorb, own and control
: everything in
: its path.
: "Now therefore, if you will obey my voice and keep my
: covenant, you shall be my own possession among all peoples
: and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy
: nation." (Exodus 19:5-6)
: "Aliens shall stand and feed your flocks. Foreigners
: shall be your ploughmen and vinedressers. But you shall be
: called priests of the Lord. Men will speak of you as
: ministers of our God." (Isaiah 61:5-6)
: The priest, according to Bible rules, did no work and didn't
: have to go to war. He was even in charge of the military,
: and they fought when and with whomever he told them to
: (Numbers 27:18-21). Priests got free land (Joshua 21:1-3)
: and all the best food (Numbers 18: 1-32), they lived off
: everyone else, made laws, and extracted sin and tax
: payments and other monies (see Lev 7:28-36 / Num 18:8-30 /
: Num 27:15-21 / Deut 17:8-13 / Deut 18:1, 6-8 / Deut 12:19 /
: Deut 14:27 for a taste). This is the position planned for
: the Israelites over the rest of the world's population. And
: it's guaranteed.
: "For the Lord, the most high, is terrible; a great king
: over all the earth. He subdues nations under us, and
: peoples under our feet." (Psalm 47:2-3)
: What Is Zionism?
: Many modern Jews seem to believe, romantically, that Zionism
: is some kind of do-good organization, whose ultimate goal
: is to one day bring all the Israelite tribes back together.
: "At that time I will gather you; at that time I will
: bring you home. I will give you honor and praise among all
: the peoples of the earth" (Zephaniah 3:20)
: Zionists, in modern folklore, work toward this end by gently
: caring for downtrodden Jews in Jerusalem, and protecting
: their people from "anti-semitism" in other parts
: of the world.
: But the real story is not so pretty. So why do we allow it?
: Zionism, technically, is a plan to reclaim the territory
: once supposedly dominated by King David (c1000 BCE) and his
: son Solomon: the original proto-Zionist Empire that
: stretched from the Sinai desert up to Lebanon and from the
: Mediterranean coast halfway across modern Iraq.
: "Your territory will extend from the [Sinai] desert to
: Lebanon, and from the great river the Euphrates, all the
: Hittite country to the Great Sea [Mediterranean] on the
: west." (Joshua 1:4 - see also Ezekiel 47:13-23)
: "I will establish your borders. I will hand over to you
: the people who live in the land, and you will drive them
: out before you. Do not make a covenant with them or with
: their gods. Do not let them live in your land, or they will
: cause
: you to sin against me" (Exodus 23:31-33)
: The stories of David and Solomon exist nowhere other than in
: the Bible, and archaeology has not been able to prove a
: word the Bible says about them. Not a stone, not a vessel,
: has been found from Solomon's supposed first temple.
: Nothing has ever been found of David or Solomon's supposed
: royal homes. No signs of an empire exist at all: no
: political or legal connection between the various
: towns in ancient Judea; no official army or tax records or
: public organizing; no indication that they ever banded
: together to do anything about anything (let alone conquer
: vast territories). Archaeology only finds a population of
: about 5,000 people living in disparate pockets in Judea during
: the supposed times of David and Solomon. How could David
: assemble gigantic armies out of this?
: The original Zionist Empire was a dream, a lie. Our
: contemporary Zionist Empire is real, taking all its
: inspiration from that old dream. The dream included a place
: for the Israelites at the top of the human heap. And where
: are the
: Israelites who concocted this ancient plan? All that's left
: today is a bunch of people (who claim to be) from the
: Israelite tribe of Judah. Conveniently, that's the only
: tribe in the Bible that survived, while the others faded
: away or were absorbed by Judah. All God's plans for the
: Israelites will be inherited by the one remaining tribe,
: Judah, whose symbol is a lion, the king of beasts. Judah
: will be king, the rest of humanity his beasts. God's Word
: says: "You are a lion's cub, O Judah" (Genesis
: 49:9)
: "The remnant of Jacob [tribe of Judah] will be among the
: nations, in the midst of many peoples, like a lion among
: the beasts of the forest, like a younglion among flocks of
: sheep, which mauls and mangles as it goes, and no one can
: rescue." (Micah 5:8)
: First the Israelites must be convinced that all non-Israelites
: are their enemies, to keep them separate.
: "Consider how many are my foes, and with what violent
: hatred they hate me." (Psalm 25:19)
: The Israelite hates them right back.
: "I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my
: enemies." (Psalm 139:22)
: Is an Israelite in trouble? No matter where he is, Israel must
: help.
: "May he send you help from the sanctuary [Jerusalem] and
: grant you support from Zion." (Psalm 20:2)
: All other religions will be stamped out and forgotten.
: "I will banish the names of the idols from the land, and
: they will be remembered no more, declares the Lord
: Almighty." (Zechariah 13:2)
: "The Lord will be awesome to them when he destroys all
: the gods of the land" (Zephaniah 2:11)
: The Israelite god punished his Chosen People many times for
: being bad. The worst punishment was being at the mercy of
: non-Israelites; barbarians who would ultimately destroy
: them.
: "He gave them into the hand of the nations, so that those
: who hated them ruled over them." (Psalm 106:41)
: Non-Israelites who do not bow to Israel have this in store:
: "But now many nations are gathered against you
: [Israel]. They say, "Let her be defiled, let our eyes
: gloat over Zion!" But they do not know the thoughts of
: the Lord. They do not understand his plan, he who gathers
: them like sheaves
: to the threshing floor. Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion!
: For I will give you horns of iron, I will give you hoofs of
: bronze, and you will break to pieces many nations"
: (Micah 4:11-13)
: And if they try to fight back, Israel's god will torture them:
: "This is the plague with which the Lord will strike
: all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh
: will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their
: eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot
: in their mouths. On that day men will be stricken by the
: Lord with great panic.
: Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack
: each otherThen the survivors from all the nations that have
: attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship
: the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of
: Tabernacles*." (Zechariah 14:12-16)
: [* a Bible law ordering Israelites to live in tents for a week
: once a year, to remind them of the time they wandered in
: the desert (Leviticus 23:33-36); all humanity will be
: forced every year to remember the ancient Israelite
: experience; this tent-law is disobeyed by nearly all Jews
: today]
: Christians For Zion
: How did the world come to follow this bizarre, obscure
: religion? This wacky cult of "Israelites" living
: in tents near the Mediterranean have somehow spread the
: name of their god and his importance across the whole
: planet. Jews
: couldn't have done this alone. Rome and the Vatican did all
: the work, selling the wild idea that all metaphysical
: questions have now been answered, that all previous answers
: have been trumped. 'No more searching! Ten easy steps to
: heaven!'
: The Word Of God caught on big with the Romans, who attached
: the New Testament to the Jewish Bible, saying, "The
: messiah has come! Here is the final chapterto the
: story!" And the Vatican took charge of humanity's
: future. Jews aren't pleased with this. Christians don't
: care. "You killed Jesus. This is a very important part
: of your story that you don't want to admit!"
: The Old Testament is a series of steps leading the Israelites
: to become the most powerful people in the world. Christians
: have simply adjusted the story to make themselves the true
: Israelites, while making the Jews the rejected ones who got
: the offer first but blew it. Either way,
: "Israelites" are supposed to rule the world with
: their messiah-god-king on the throne in
: Jerusalem(Christians think it'll be Jesus; Jews think it'll
: be someone else). A New World Order. The Bible orders this.
: All other religions are to be stamped out, and the Old
: Testament will become World Law.
: One world ruler over one world religion over one world
: government. And the Israelites, as world priests, will be
: in charge of everything.
: "And you will be called priests of the Lord" (Isaiah
: 61:6)
: "Their descendants will be known among the nations...All
: who see them will acknowledge that they are a people the
: Lord has blessed." (Isaiah 61:9)
: The Zionist Plan is supported by many Christians while
: condemned by many others. A Christian who thinks that
: Zionist behaviour is right and good, justbecause the Bible
: orders it, is a useful tool for the Zionists. But he won't
: get
: anything out of it himself, other than slavery and the
: trashing of his own religion. A Christian who thinks that
: Zionism is bad, while believing that Christianity is
: somehow the correct interpretation of the Old Testament, is
: just as lost, because he feeds the equally lunatic Vatican
: plan for a one world Christian religion.
: Zionism comes from the same Bible that the Christian religion
: is based on, and Israel's behaviour today, though repugnant
: to many, is quite comfortably in line with God's
: instructions. If Christians become the New Israelites, as
: St.
: Paul told them they will, they expect to be in the regal
: position that was promised to the Israelites, and they will
: carry out the same atrocities that Israel carries out
: (under Biblical orders), against their designated
: enemies.History has already shown that this will happen.
: The New Testament (along with a modified Old Testament) will
: become world law, with Jesus ruling from the throne in
: Jerusalem. And they'll kill whoever fights against them.
: Because God said.
: "From Zion, perfect in beauty, God shines forth."
: (Psalm 50:2)
: "May all who hate Zion be put to shame and turned
: backward!" (Psalm 129:5)
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