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TIME OUT - ON TIME *PIC*

Posted By: StClair
Date: Tuesday, 20-Jun-2006 22:22:17

In Response To: WHERE IS THE SAFETY? (StClair)

Dear Friends

what is time?

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* http://www.soultravel.nu/2005/0205-Krishnamurti/index.shtml

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TIME THE ROOT ??

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Time is the Root

By J. Krishnamurti

So, you need attention to observe the unconscious; otherwise, you cannot observe it. This means that the conscious mind must not see any result, it must not wish to transform what it sees, it must not try to interpret what it sees according to its likes and dislikes."

This whole consciousness is of time - time being thought, thought being the response of memory, memory being the past, the past moving through the present to the future in a limited way or in an expansive way. The whole structure of the conscious as well as the unconscious is in the framework of time - time being not only chronological time but also psychological time. We have divided this consciousness as the superficial and the hidden. The superficial is the educated mind, the modern mind. And then there is the hidden mind. The hidden mind is all the latent factors of the past; certain parts of it are awake, other parts of it are asleep.

To become conscious, to know all the contents of our mind, requires an attention, an observation which is attentive - not in terms of condemnation or justification, but merely attentive.

Attention is necessary in order to find out the whole content of the unconscious. I mean by ATTENTION a mind that is attentive without any subjective or objective condemnation, a mind which is merely attentive. I must go into the meaning of the word "attentive." Because most of us do not know what it means; we know only what it is to be concentrated, to focus the attention, to focus the thought on a particular thing. And in that focusing of the thought on a particular thing, which is called concentration, there is an exclusive process - you are putting everything aside.

Therefore, concentration is a form of RESISTANCE. Concentration is not attention because in attention there is no resistance. Attention can concentrate; even then, it is not exclusive. One must be very clear between these two facts: the implication of concentration, and the implication of attention. In attention, there is complete emptiness; otherwise, you can't attend. Now, if you are attentive, you listen to the noise of the train on the bridge, you listen to the hoot of the train, you listen to the speaker. But if you are concentrated, you cannot be aware of all this extraordinary movement.

So, you need attention to observe the unconscious; otherwise, you cannot observe it. This means that the conscious mind must not see any result, it must not wish to transform what it sees, it must not try to interpret what it sees according to its likes and dislikes.

So the conscious mind must be attentively aware, which means 'aware without any preoccupation.' The conscious mind must be in a non-interpretative, non-condemnative state; this means it must be quiet - quiet, not forced, not compelled. And that is only possible when there is no ambition, when the conscious mind is psychologically free from society - then the conscious mind can be quiet because there is no resistance.

When the conscious mind is quiet - which means when the conscious mind is attentive - it has no thought, it is empty but aware; then it can observe.

This observation is not analytical or interpretative. This attention has no introspective or analytical quality; the conscious mind merely observes.

Thought is the origin of fear; time gives soil to fear. So one has to understand fear and be free of fear - not the fear of the snake, but the deep down fear which gives sorrow, the fear which prevents affection, the fear which clouds the mind, the fear which creates conflict, the fear which brings about darkness. Most of us live in darkness and die in darkness. If one would really understand that fear, one must understand this whole process of consciousness which is time."

From the collected works of J. Krishnamurti

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COOL

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TIME ? OUT ?
ON TIME ???

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"Time provides no solution. All religions have maintained that time is necessary, the psychological time we are talking about. Heaven is very far away, and one can only come to it through the gradual process of evolution, through suppression, through growth, or through identification with an object, with something superior. Our question is whether it is possible to be free of fear immediately. Otherwise fear breeds disorder; psychological time invariably does breed extraordinary disorder within one."

"I am questioning the whole idea of evolution, not of the physical being, but of thought which has identified itself with a particular form of existence in time. The brain has obviously evolved to come to this present stage, and it may evolve still further, expand still more. But as a human being, I have lived for forty or fifty years in a world made up of all kinds of theories, conflicts, and concepts; in a society in which greed, envy, and competition have bred wars. I am a part of all that."

"To a man who is in sorrow, there is no significance in looking to time for a solution, in evolving slowly for the next two million years as a human being. Constituted as we are, is it possible to be free from fear and from psychological time? Physical time must exist; you can’t get away from that. The question is whether psychological time can bring not only order within the individual but also social order. We are part of society; we are not separate. Where there is order in a human being, there will inevitably be social order outwardly."

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