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Reader: AN EXCELLENT OVERVIEW ON BALI"SUICIDE-BOMBERS"

Posted By: FarSight3
Date: Sunday, 9-Oct-2005 15:46:18

In Response To: BALI "SUICIDE-BOMBERS" CAUGHT ON CAMERA... *PIC* (FarSight3)

An interesting summary on the latest Bali bombings from an informed reader:


First of all, considering the fact Indonesian reporters (I won't call them
journalists) cannot write a coherent paragraph in their own language, I am
amazed that we have any remotely reliable information at all regarding the
bombings a week after the fact. Foreign reporters are no doubt facing a
challenge to get clear, straight answers in English, or Indonesian for that
matter. That said, I have attempted to make an analysis of some news
reports in English and Indonesian.

The main obstacle to making progress in the bombing case is the obtuse
statements of the police themselves. Their chief of police is suffering a
relapse of his 'foot in mouth' disease with his consistently inane
comments. First, in their zeal to chase after their two 'boogeymen'
masterminds in order to conceal their incompetence, they jumped the gun in
naming the three severed heads as 'suicide bombers', effectively
making it impossible for family and friends to step forward and identify these
perpetrators (or hapless victims?)
, not only for the shame it would bring, but
for the ensuing investigation which would add to their misery. But fortunately
a police chief in Java has made a major break in the case, positively
identifying one of the heads as "a guy named Gareng."

Second, in order to strengthen their 'extremist JI suicide bomber'
profile, police said that the three had explosive belts strapped to their
bodies.
Unfortunately, this seems to be possibly true in one of the cases, as a
man on the beach was seen pulling the detonation cord at an open-air,
beachfront restaurant:"a witness said that my father was sitting, facing
the beach when a man opened his jacket and pulled the trigger in front of
him." In the second bombing at a nearby restaurant, Australian men and
women said that they saw someone throw something under their table and run, and
a waiter and receptionist said that the explosion came from under/between the
tables. Some witnesses in this beach area even claimed one bomb had been buried
in the sand. Far away at the Raja's restaurant, the fuzzy amateur video
shows a guy clutching/carrying something (some say possibly a backpack), which
he adjusts (others say it is firmly attached), goes off camera, and then a bang
is heard. Meanwhile, Nicholas Scott said he saw someone throw a white bag into
Raja's. So the third is still speculation. Possibly one out of three
isn't all that bad for an international criminal investigation, eh?

Third on the list of copper goof-ups, they claimed that cellular phones were
used to detonate the bombs.
Australian police already doubt this. For an
'international criminal terrorist network' who can get their hands on
TNT, you'd think these guys could get some remote detonation devices that
didn't depend on cellular phone carriers. Kind of an unnecessary risk
after all that effort to find and outfit your stooge bombers, isn't it?
But it fits perfectly with their previously established hearsay of the modus in
other cases.

Fourth, and possibly the most embarrassing, is the reduction of the number of
dead from 26 to 22, after discovering that body parts believed to been seven
people turned out to be just three.
These body pieces were put in eight body
bags, and a forensic medicine expert pieced together three perfect bodies (not
clear if they were headless). The problem is, it was said that the body parts
were taken from two crime scenes.

First of all, there were three crime scenes:
(a) Menenga Café on Jimbaran Beach,
(b) the nearby Nyoman Café, and
(c) Raja's restaurant in Kuta, 18 miles away.

To believe this story, we are
expected to believe that the police took body parts from two (three?) crime
scenes, threw then in 8 body bags, and then tried to reconstruct the bodies.

Their conclusion was that these three were the closest to the explosions,
implying that they were the 3 suicide bombers (or not?), conveniently fitting
into their three-severed head-bomber theory, one at each location. Even though
it seems that the two beach bombings in Jimbaran are being lumped together as
one bombing location, the language is unclear as to whether the bodies were
reconstructed from parts kept separate for each location, or mixed together.
The head of the Japanese who died was also dismembered. What gives?

The obligatory item that a nine-volt battery was discovered was also repeated,
as if there could be no other logical explanation for its presence in a
multinational tourist area. This was collaborated as the 'style' of
their bombings by Ali Imron, the dimwitted 'mastermind' of the
previous Bali escapade now in prison. Funny, but the APF police commissioner
said that new tactics were used in this bombing: "they're quite a
different bomb to the ones we have seen being used before."
Perhaps since
the Indonesian police have the video recording of the white blast and mushroom
cloud from the mininuke used at the Australian embassy bombing in Jakarta

(which is still in a state of disrepair over a year after the incident),
whoever is staging these events has had to go back to conventional explosives
so as not to be so 'obvious'.

So, the police are hot on the trail of the two 'masterminds' of Top
and Azahari. These faces of these two have been plastered in the media for the
past three years, so they cannot move anywhere about the country, let alone
Bali, where they would be the most hated. They were said to be in one location,
but when they got there, oh, they weren't there. So they continue to
carpet bomb Java and Bali with wanted posters.

Regarding the presence of Australian Health Minister Tony Abbot in Bali at the
time of blasts
, one has to wonder:

(a) would that be a wise choice of a
vacation spot considering the death toll they experienced only a few years ago,
considering the fact that they issue travel warnings for this place? And

(b) was this an official visit, in which case there would be security provided,
making a bit odd for a family vacation, or was it an unofficial visit, arriving
as an ordinary citizen, in which case it would be extremely reckless?

As for the airlift he helped orchestrate: "Australia offered help again
after Saturday's blasts in packed Bali restaurants, with federal police,
medical teams and victim identification experts sent within hours. Two
Australian military C-130 transport planes took 17 injured people, most of them
Australians as well as Indonesians and one Japanese national, to Darwin for
emergency treatment." Leaving little or no time to ask questions or check
identities
(such as special forces backgrounds; two SAS Brits were just
captured a month ago in Iraq dressed as locals and carrying explosives and
remotes making their way to a public event).

Regarding the Times website report that three unexploded bombs were found in
Jimbaran beach
, and that the mobile telephone network was shut down, both are
difficult to evaluate. It is difficult to believe since it has not been
reported in the Indonesian media, and it would most certainly reveal the
construction of the bombs. It is also a bit hard to believe that the police can
'hastily' shut down the transmissions of private cellular phone
carriers in Bali (although certainly a possibility).

The number killed varies from 20-27, although the current totals do not match
this, 26 being the most quoted, before being reduced to 22 by the police.
The
devastation caused by the three packages of TNT has made it "difficult for
authorities to count" the toll, due to the "many bodies left in
fragments". Of those confirmed dead in news reports (by name or coffin),
the following can be deduced: 15 Indonesians now dead, 4 Australians, 1
Japanese, and 9 or 10 unidentified bodies (and the confusion caused by
prematurely naming 3 heads as suicide bombers). This adds up to a possible 30
or 33
, assuming that the bodies which belong to those heads are to be found on
the scene. In addition to this 22-25 people are still listed as missing.

The conclusion of all this is only that there has been shoddy reporting and
horrendous investigative work. As a result: "Comments from world leaders
showed they assumed it was the work of a militant Islamic group. Security
experts said the strikes bore the hallmarks of Jemaah Islamiah (JI)"
Which it didn't. When you assume'¦

W.S.

Online sources: AP, AAP, Times (timesonline.co.uk), Antara News Agency, AEST,
Bloomberg, ABC, AFP, Metro TV, Detik.com, Reuters, and ABS-CBN.

Thank you! Excellent work!

Far Sight 3

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Between YOU and E- these NUMBERS are making me DIZZY !
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THE ABOVE POST = 25 = 7 !!
APHRODITE -- Friday, 8-Jul-2005 09:45:42
NOT ONLY "7" - IT'S A "DOUBLE SEVEN"!! THX FOR SHOWING!
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WELL, IF YOU MUST KNOW MY TROUSERS ARE "7"
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IF PEOPLE CAN GET PAST THE *satanist* Propaganda
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Reader: WATCH THE AGES OF THE 3 UNFORTUNATE!! AGAIN "7"
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Reader: LONDON-"THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR"...
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A REVEALING PIC FROM THE LONDON BUS... *PIC*
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INCIDENT AT WHITEHALL
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THE *PHOTO OP* OF THE *ARREST* IS
APHRODITE -- Thursday, 21-Jul-2005 10:36:15
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APHRODITE -- Thursday, 21-Jul-2005 10:54:48
MPs GOING HOME FOR SUMMER AS WESTMINSTER IS SEALED
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CURIOUS LOCATION INVOLVED
Useless_Eater -- Thursday, 21-Jul-2005 13:13:09
THIS IS *LONDON*,FOLKS!WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE ON THE PIC? *PIC*
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ANYONE KNOWING, WHICH COMPANY MENEZES WAS WORKING FOR?
FarSight3 -- Tuesday, 26-Jul-2005 12:07:48
777: SUSPECTS IMPOSSIBLE ARRIVING DUE TO TIMETABLE...
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 25-Aug-2005 16:14:04
RUMOR: DID SHOT BRAZIL ELECTRICIAN KNOW TOO MUCH......?
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 28-Jul-2005 07:58:26
Readers: DON'T LET THE ptbs GET AWAY WITH THAT SO EASY!
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 28-Jul-2005 10:07:09
LONDON'S SUSPECT MASTERMIND "PROTECTED" BY US-ADMIN...? *PIC*
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FarSight3 -- Friday, 29-Jul-2005 15:14:41
US COUNTERSPIN STARTS! CNN:UK"GUILTY"OF BLOCKING ARREST
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FarSight3 -- Monday, 1-Aug-2005 08:28:57
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FarSight3 -- Monday, 3-Oct-2005 10:15:17
Reader:"AUSSIE MINIST.WAS THERE",AGAIN FOREKNOWLEDGE?
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I'VE SENT A MAIL TO THE FORMER INDON. PREZI AND ASKED..
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MORE CLUES FROM "RENSE"...
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FarSight3 -- Sunday, 16-Oct-2005 14:44:50
Readers: EVERYTH.HOWARD DON'T WANTS TO HEAR,BALI,SIEV-X
FarSight3 -- Monday, 17-Oct-2005 18:46:29
Reader: AN EXCELLENT OVERVIEW ON BALI"SUICIDE-BOMBERS"
FarSight3 -- Sunday, 9-Oct-2005 15:46:18
FINALLY: TRANSCRIPT OF WAHID'S COMMENTS ON BALI BOMBING
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METHODIC MADNESS? HADASHI: THE PATH TO WWIII...
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