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WAS 4-STAR BYRNES 1 OF CLINTOON'S PERFUME GENERALS?

Posted By: Ghost
Date: Wednesday, 24-Aug-2005 12:45:25

In Response To: GEN.BYRNES WANTED NO GREEN-CARD SOLDIERS, THE NEXT GOES (FarSight3)

Since the speculation runs rampant on RMN's lets take a look at Byrnes record and speculate. After looking at his record a person will go HMMMM!!!

I've looked closely at his commands and because of his 36yrs as probably a darn good soldier...I backed off hoping this story would die.

Col. Byrnes:

Jun 91-May 93 Commander, Division Artillery, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas

Ft. Hood is approx. 100 miles from WACO.

Less than a month after WACO, Col. Byrnes receives a NEW COMMAND!!!

May 93-Dec 93 Chief of Staff, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas

Now I've been told Army was NOT involved in WACO except for Delta and those Delta Teams were at Ft. Hood - highly irregular.

Was Byrnes one of Clintoon's Perfume Generals? So look at this and you decide:

Brynes received his

1st Star BG 1 Jan 95
2nd Star MG 1 Sep 97
3rd Star LTG 1 Nov 99

Actually when you're not in a time of war which we weren't with clintoon's joke presidency receiving your stars this fast is IRREGULAR!!!

Also, Byrnes was given the order to CEASE & DESIST* in his affair** with a civilian. 4-Star Byrnes elected NOT to follow that order, therefore, he was relieved from his command.

Was this only used as a technicality...could be?

I would say more house cleaning is taking place throughout our military along with the CIA, STATE...it's been infested with the clintoon hangovers!!!

Feed back I've received.***

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*UCMJ
Article 134—Adultery
Text.

Paragraph 60.

Elements.

(1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;

(2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and

(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

Explanation.

(1) Nature of offense. Adultery is clearly unacceptable conduct, and it reflects adversely on the service record of the military member.

(2) Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces. To constitute an offense under the UCMJ, the adulterous conduct must either be directly prejudicial to good order and discipline or service discrediting.

Adulterous conduct that is directly prejudicial includes conduct that has an obvious, and measurably divisive effect on unit or organization discipline, morale, or cohesion, or is clearly detrimental to the authority or stature of or respect toward a servicemember. Adultery may also be service discrediting, even though the conduct is only indirectly or remotely prejudicial to good order and discipline. Discredit means to injure the reputation of the armed forces and includes adulterous conduct that has a tendency, because of its open or notorious nature, to bring the service into disrepute, make it subject to public ridicule, or lower it in public esteem. While adulterous conduct that is private and discreet in nature may not be service discrediting by this standard, under the circumstances, it may be determined to be conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline. Commanders should consider all relevant circumstances, including but not limited to the following factors, when determining whether adulterous acts are prejudicial to good order and discipline or are of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces:

(a) The accused's marital status, military rank, grade, or position;

(b) The co-actor's marital status, military rank, grade, and position, or relationship to the armed forces;

(c) The military status of the accused's spouse or the spouse of co-actor, or their relationship to the armed forces;

(d) The impact, if any, of the adulterous relationship on the ability of the accused, the co-actor, or the spouse of either to perform their duties in support of the armed forces;

(e) The misuse, if any, of government time and resources to facilitate the commission of the conduct;

(f) Whether the conduct persisted despite counseling or orders to desist; the flagrancy of the conduct, such as whether any notoriety ensued; and whether the adulterous act was accompanied by other violations of the UCMJ;

(g) The negative impact of the conduct on the units or organizations of the accused, the co-actor or the spouse of either of them, such as a detrimental effect on unit or organization morale, teamwork, and efficiency;

(h) Whether the accused or co-actor was legally separated; and

(i) Whether the adulterous misconduct involves an ongoing or recent relationship or is remote in time.

(3) Marriage. A marriage exists until it is dissolved in accordance with the laws of a competent state or foreign jurisdiction.

(4) Mistake of fact. A defense of mistake of fact exists if the accused had an honest and reasonable belief either that the accused and the co-actor were both unmarried, or that they were lawfully married to each other. If this defense is raised by the evidence, then the burden of proof is upon the United States to establish that the accused's belief was unreasonable or not honest.".

Maximum punishment.

Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

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**Many of us remember this most recent case, below:

Some of you may remember the famous Lt. Kelly Flynn case of a few years back. Lt. Kelly Flynn was the Air Force's first female B-52 pilot. Unfortunately, Lt Flynn was an unmarried officer who was having an affair with a married civilian. Lt Flynn was advised by a First Sergeant, and later ordered by her Commander, to terminate the affair. She broke up with her "boyfriend," but later they got back together, and -- when asked about it -- Lt Flynn lied. Lt. Flynn was then charged with the offenses of adultery, giving a false official statement, conduct unbecoming an officer, and disobeying an order of a superior commissioned officer.

So, where was the "military connection" for the adultery charge? Well, the civilian "boyfriend," was the husband of an active duty enlisted Air Force member, stationed at the same base as Lt Flynn. Therefore, Lt Flynn's "affair" had a direct negative impact on the morale of that military service member (the enlisted wife is the one who originally complained about the inappropriate actions of Lt. Flynn).

Lt Flynn didn't face a military court, however; she was allowed to resign her commission in lieu of court martial (lots of media attention probably had something to do with this decision by the Air Force).

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***Feed back I've received:

The clueless on the Internet regarding military life is often breathtaking.

It was a subordinate’s wife, particularly if the subordinate was deployed. The military will not stand for that, as it demoralizes the ranks, especially in time of war.
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Gen Byrnes was burned for adultery, an actionable offense under the UCMJ. He is not the first senior officer to go down for this – I saw it happen in the course of my military career several times – and I doubt he’ll be the last. The clueless on the Internet regarding military life is often breathtaking.
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He had an affair with a woman who was married to another army officer. That is the sort of thing that can cause all sorts of problems. The woman involved would be civilian, but her husband .....
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[F]our-star generals are few in the services and are appointed very carefully by the president both to that rank and to their jobs. There’s no doubt that before Gen. Schoomaker relived Byrnes he and the secretary of the Army both had lengthy conversations with each other and with President Bush. And there is also no doubt that the president approved the relief in advance because there’s no chance that Gen. Schoomaker or the Army secretary did the deed and then informed the commander in chief.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to learn that President Bush actually ordered the relief, although I don’t think we’ll ever learn that, if so.

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