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THE TWO FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *PIC*

Posted By: Ghost
Date: Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 20:34:09

In Response To: IT'S PICTORIAL - YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ TO UNDERSTAND IT (Rayelan)

THE TWO FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

by Richard McDonald

The people of the United States actually have two national flags: one for our military government and another for the civil. Each one has fifty stars in its canton and thirteen red and white stripes, but there are several important differences.

Although most Americans think of the Stars and Stripes (below left) as their only flag, it is actually for military affairs only. The other one, meant by its makers for wider use (peacetime), has vertical stripes with blue stars on a white field (below right). You can see this design, which bears civil jurisdiction, in the U.S. Coast Guard and Customs flags, but their service insignias replace the fifty stars.

I first learned of the separate, civil flag when I was reading Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter, published in 1850. The introduction, titled "The Custom House," includes this description:

From the loftiest point of its roof, during precisely three and a half hours of each forenoon, floats or droops, in breeze or calm, the banner of the republic; but with the thirteen stripes turned vertically, instead of horizontally, and thus indicating that a civil, and not a military post of Uncle Sam's government, is here established.

It took me two years of digging before I found a picture that matched what he was describing: my second clue was an original Illuminated History of North America (1860). If this runs against your beliefs, look up those two references.

History book publishers contribute to the public's miseducation by always picturing the flag in military settings, creating the impression that the one with horizontal stripes is the only one there is. They don't actually lie; they just tell half the truth. For example, the "first American flag" they show Betsy Ross sewing at George Washington's request, was for the Revolution - of course it was military.

The U.S. government hasn't flown the civil flag since the Civil War, as that war is still going on. Peace has never been declared, nor have hostilities against the people ended. The government is still operating under quasi-military rule.

You movie buffs may recall this: In the old Westerns, "Old Glory" has her stripes running sideways and a military yellow fringe. Most of these films are historically accurate about that; their stories usually took place in the territories still under military law and not yet states. Before WWII, no U.S. flag, civil or military, flew within the forty-eight states (except in federal settings); only state flags did. Since then, the U.S. government seems to have decided the supposedly sovereign states are its territories too, so it asserts its military power over them under the "law of the flag."

Today the U.S. military flag appears alongside, or in place of, the state flags in nearly all locations within the states. All of the state courts and even the municipal ones now openly display it. This should have raised serious questions from many citizens long ago, but we've been educated to listen and believe what we are told, not to ask questions, or think or search for the truth.

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http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Two-Flags.html

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NEW FLAG? WHY *9*STRIPED FLAG BEHIND BUSH LAST NIGHT?!! *PIC*
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 14:26:21
BACK TO CONSTITUTIONAL GOVT.?????
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 14:39:24
NEVER BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THEY ARE BENEVOLENT!
tenavision -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 15:58:38
I REMAIN SCEPTIC - ESPECIALLY IN CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:30:08
9 BEAT 11(ANNUNAKI); NOW 9 BEATS 13!!!? SPIRIT ITSELF!
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:04:03
THE ORIGINAL NINE STATES WERE...
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:54:51
SOME KIND OF LOGICAL FALLACY IN THERE, SOMEWHERE....
hobie -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 18:45:27
SUPREMES: STATE CAN TELL FEDS TO 'GET OUT'!
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 22:09:01
Reader: "...THE VERY NEXUS OF THE FLINT AND TINDER..."
hobie -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 02:46:03
S OPS RESPONDS WITH INTEREST
monk -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 18:06:24
THE STRIPES ARE VERTICAL!! LIKE THE US CIVIL FLAG!! A RETURN TO CONSTITUTIONAL RULE?
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 19:29:11
IT'S PICTORIAL - YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ TO UNDERSTAND IT
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 19:38:33
THE TWO FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *PIC*
Ghost -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 20:34:09
READER: HOW MANY STARS?
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 21:58:50
DEPENDING ON WHICH FLAG YOU COUNT - 26 OR 30
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 22:47:21
NO GOLD FRINGE IN A MILITARY SETTING....HMMM... *PIC*
Ghost -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 00:20:48
I COUNTED 28. INTERESTING NUMBER; WHEN YOU LOOK...
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 04:42:05
POSSIBLY, SOMETHING CONNECTED TO RED/BLUE STATES... *PIC*
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 20:01:53

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