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THE ORIGINAL NINE STATES WERE...

Posted By: FarSight3
Date: Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:54:51

In Response To: 9 BEAT 11(ANNUNAKI); NOW 9 BEATS 13!!!? SPIRIT ITSELF! (Esclarmonde)

Patriotlad should tell us more about. Anyhow - I give a try:

On June 14, 1777 THE FIRST FLAG ACT was passed by the Continental Congress - provided for 13 stripes and 13 stars.

The articles of Confederation were approved by Congress on November 15,1777 and went into force after ratification by Maryland on March 1, 1781

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION- was approved by Congress September 17, 1787. The ratification required 9 states and was completed on June 21, 1788. It went into force on March 4, 1789.

The dates of ratification or admission into the FEDERAL Union were...


Delaware - December 7, 1787
Pennsylvania - December 12, 1787
New Jersey - December 18, 1787
Georgia - January 2, 1788 (readmitted July 15, 1870)
Connecticut - January 9, 1788
Massachusetts - February 6, 1788
Maryland - April 28, 1788
South Carolina - May 23, 1788 (readmitted July 9, 1868)
New Hampshire - June 21, 1788
Virginia - June 25, 1788 (readmitted January 26, 1870)
New York - July 26, 1788
North Carolina - November 21, 1789 (readmitted July 4, 1868)
Rhode Island - May 19, 1790

...so NINE STATES...

...plus...
Vermont - March 4, 1791
Kentucky - June 1, 1792

Starting on December 20, 1860, eleven Southern states seceded from the Federal Union (States highlighted in bold are those Southern States officially recognized by the United States as being in rebellion), with two others (Kentucky and Missouri) contesting a secession.

The Federal government did not recognize the legality of secession and refused to remove stars from the US Flag. However, after the cessation of hostilities in 1865, and for a period of time extending to 1870, the United States Government recognized the defacto secession of these eleven states by readmitting them to the Federal Union.

The State of West Virginia's admission to the Union is a particularly interesting study in that this region "seceded from a secession."

The legality of West Virginia was hotly debated at the time (and still is in some circles), even amongst members of Lincoln's administration.

According to the US Constitution, Article IV, Section. 3. Clause 1:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

The Articles of Confederation, being in place until March 4, 1789, constituted a perpetual Union, from which the Federal Constitution was simply a little bit "more perfect Union" - into which all states were admitted (where there is a little "confusion" as the word "readmitted" applied to the 11 former Confederate States, saying that to be readmitted implies admission in the former case). So to question is whether there might be a difference between the terms "Ratification" and "Admission" which are sometimes used interchangeable...

;-)

Still waiting for my Green Card...
Far Sight 3

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Articles In This Thread

NEW FLAG? WHY *9*STRIPED FLAG BEHIND BUSH LAST NIGHT?!! *PIC*
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 14:26:21
BACK TO CONSTITUTIONAL GOVT.?????
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 14:39:24
NEVER BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THEY ARE BENEVOLENT!
tenavision -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 15:58:38
I REMAIN SCEPTIC - ESPECIALLY IN CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:30:08
9 BEAT 11(ANNUNAKI); NOW 9 BEATS 13!!!? SPIRIT ITSELF!
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:04:03
THE ORIGINAL NINE STATES WERE...
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 17:54:51
SOME KIND OF LOGICAL FALLACY IN THERE, SOMEWHERE....
hobie -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 18:45:27
SUPREMES: STATE CAN TELL FEDS TO 'GET OUT'!
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 22:09:01
Reader: "...THE VERY NEXUS OF THE FLINT AND TINDER..."
hobie -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 02:46:03
S OPS RESPONDS WITH INTEREST
monk -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 18:06:24
THE STRIPES ARE VERTICAL!! LIKE THE US CIVIL FLAG!! A RETURN TO CONSTITUTIONAL RULE?
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 19:29:11
IT'S PICTORIAL - YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ TO UNDERSTAND IT
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 19:38:33
THE TWO FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *PIC*
Ghost -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 20:34:09
READER: HOW MANY STARS?
Esclarmonde -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 21:58:50
DEPENDING ON WHICH FLAG YOU COUNT - 26 OR 30
Rayelan -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 22:47:21
NO GOLD FRINGE IN A MILITARY SETTING....HMMM... *PIC*
Ghost -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 00:20:48
I COUNTED 28. INTERESTING NUMBER; WHEN YOU LOOK...
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 30-Jun-2005 04:42:05
POSSIBLY, SOMETHING CONNECTED TO RED/BLUE STATES... *PIC*
FarSight3 -- Wednesday, 29-Jun-2005 20:01:53

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