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A BETTER LOOK AT EUROPE NOW
Posted By: StClair Date: Friday, 17-Jun-2005 09:48:47
In Response To: GIVERS & TAKERS OF "EU-SYSTEM" (aka NWO) *PIC* (StClair)
This FRENCH link below shows you a better look than BBC gave us about where we are at with EU in Europe. I translate the colours for you, when you click open the link which gives you much details on each country:
Green - RATIFIED (have said yes)
Orange (!) NOT ratified (read: REJECTED) - France-Holland
Dark blue - referendum due - Ireland, Portugal, Poland, Denmark, Luxembourg
light blue - referendum probable - Chek republic
yellow - parliament decides - Belgium, Sweden, Finland and Estonia
brown - Ratification suspended (UK)
There is some unclarity in my mind, as it is said in the text of treaty that 19 of 25 nations must ratify EU treaty for it to become LAW. Other reports, such as this one again, say ALL 25 have to ratify.
So from the yellow and blue nations we need 5 more NOs whenever they get a chance to express themselves
The link to the presentation at Le Monde online in Paris:
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/vi/0,47-0@2-3214,54-629387@51-662200,0.html
Giving time more time...
In this French article excerpt, it becomes clear that now the schedule was derailed, as some those nations in the dark blue color (Denmark and Luxembourg) now consider scrapping the referendum which was due in weeks and months, while EU gains time to "better explain" EU to those who will hold referendums...
"AJOUTER DU TEMPS AU TEMPS"
Dès l'ouverture de leur sommet, les Vingt-Cinq se sont donné le temps de cette réflexion en suspendant de fait, sine die, le processus de ratification de la Constitution. Le premier ministre luxembourgeois, Jean-Claude Juncker, n'a pas prononcé le mot de "pause" ni celui de "suspension" en rendant compte, jeudi 16 juin dans la soirée, des travaux du Conseil. Il a seulement indiqué que les dirigeants européens feraient preuve de "compréhension" si les Etats qui n'ont pas encore ratifié le traité estimaient nécessaire une plus longue période "d'explication et de débat" avant de le soumettre au référendum. Cette solution de compromis vise à satisfaire à la fois, selon la formule d'un diplomate, "les pays qui ont ratifié, ceux qui ont voulu ratifier mais n'ont pas pu, ceux qui veulent ratifier et ceux qui ne le veulent pas vraiment".
Le Danemark, qui avait fixé au 27 septembre la date de son référendum, a d'ores et déjà annoncé, par la voix de son premier ministre, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, le report de cette consultation. "La base pour un référendum n'est pas suffisamment claire", a-t-il dit. Le scrutin prévu au Luxembourg le 10 juillet pourrait aussi être annulé.
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3214,36-663238@51-662200,0.html
It is amazing how this French & Dutch popular NO has them spinning...
and breaking news this minute:
DERNIERE MINUTE 15h42 : Le sommet de Bruxelles suspendu pour des négociations bilatérales
EU President Juncker suspends Bruxelles Summit for bilateral negotiations until later this evening.
Jean-Claude Juncker, président en exercice de l'UE, a suspendu jusqu'à vendredi 18 heures la séance du Conseil européen pour tenter d'arracher un accord sur le budget communautaire 2007-2013 dans des négociations bilatérales.
They are still trying to get an agreement on the 2007-2013 budget in bilateral talks, and I guess it will lead nowhere.
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