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BLOGGERS TAKE ON EU-ELITE *PIC*

Posted By: StClair
Date: Saturday, 4 June 2005, 4:34 a.m.

In Response To: EU - "FOR ME IT IS NO!" *PIC* (StClair)

: EUROPE'S ZERO HOUR

Gerhard Schroeder, himself under some pressure now to re-evaluate everything about his mandate and policies in Germany, few months before his new election, has suggested to his European colleagues that he feels now is a time for a "Thinking Break" related to EU, and he invites to have a quiet and frank talk about where Europe is now heading. Well, few politicians and their advisers really estimated the outcome correctly. We here at RMN did state the two referenda would send EU back to the drawing board. Schroeder wants to see a debate of principle about the EU to take place, preferably in fire place atmosphere where each one can talk openly without feeling the other one will nail him or her for what was thought out aloud... Well Gerhard, how about letting the Germans also vote NO to EU, so we get it all over with fast. My opinion honestly, is that Chirac here is helping out his friend to be re-elected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4609053.stm

French President Jacques Chirac flies to Berlin later today to dine with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. The two leaders, who are due to discuss the future of the EU Constitution, have already called for the ratification process to continue across Europe.

They will be focusing their minds on how they can repair the damage caused by this week's "No" votes in France and the Netherlands. They will also look ahead to the EU summit later in June. Jacques Chirac may feel a tinge of envy when he sits down for dinner with Gerhard Schroeder. The German leader got the EU constitution ratified in parliament almost unanimously. By doing so, he avoided the mess that a referendum might have caused.

Britain's rebate

They both know there is considerable scepticism about the ratification process continuing and are particularly concerned that Britain might declare the constitution dead before the EU summit in mid June.

That meeting will also discuss the EU budget covering 2007-2013. Germany, the biggest contributor to EU funds, wants Britain to make concessions over the budget rebate won by Margaret Thatcher in 1984. But this would be politically explosive in the UK. Mr Schroeder can at least however expect support for the idea from Mr Chirac.

Peace
M StC.

German Spiegel online link below:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,358947,00.html
Bei der Suche nach einem Ausweg aus der EU-Verfassungskrise hat Gerhard Schröder vorgeschlagen, in der Europäischen Gemeinschaft eine Denkpause einzulegen. Notwendig sei zunächst eine Grundsatzdebatte, in welche Richtung die EU sich politisch weiterentwickeln solle.

DDP
Schröder: "Gewisse Zeit des Nachdenkens"

Berlin - Nach den gescheiterten Referenden in Frankreich und den Niederlanden sei für den Bundeskanzler eine Grundsatzdebatte über die künftige Richtung und nötige Korrekturen unverzichtbar, hieß es in Berliner Regierungskreisen. Dafür sei jetzt "eine gewisse Zeit des Nachdenkens" erforderlich.

Ein normaler EU-Gipfel mit 25 Teilnehmerländern Mitte Juni in Brüssel sei für die Beratungen über eine Neuausrichtung der Europa-Politik ungeeignet. Ein Treffen in "Kamin-Atmosphäre und ohne große Öffentlichkeit, wo der eine den anderen nicht gleich unter Druck setzt", biete sich dafür besser an.

P.S.
I am also for having the ratification process continue because I want to see each people vote, so we know for sure, without innuendo what the deal is. And here a link about how bloggers took on the EU Elite:

Intro excerpt:


The French newspaper dubbed Marseille law teacher Etienne Chouard "Don Quichotte du non".

Mr Chouard did not much care for the EU Constitution, but instead of simply voicing his upset to his neighbours, he wrote an essay and set up a blog to explain why he was voting 'Non'.

Just ahead of the vote, his blog was getting 25,000 hits a day and his anti-constitution broadside had been photocopied, faxed and blogged about across France.

Despite overwhelming support for the constitution by the governments of both France and the Netherlands and a huge media campaign by political leaders in both countries, voters have rejected the constitution.

And just as the media and political establishment in the US found during last year's presidential election, European elites have now felt the sting of these online upstarts, the bloggers.

An 'enormous force'

Mr Chouard, the teacher turned blogger, has become a folk hero for the 'Non' campaigners who rebelled against what they saw as an out of touch political elite.

Read on at link here below the pic of Chirac & Schroeder:

BLOGGERS AT BBC AGAINST EU ELITE

Articles In This Thread

EU - "FOR ME IT IS NO!" *PIC*
StClair -- Wednesday, 25 May 2005, 8:50 a.m.
PLUS A "NEE" FROM THE DUTCH
StClair -- Wednesday, 25 May 2005, 7:57 p.m.
FABIUS READY FOR FRENCH PRESIDENCY in 2007?
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 7:38 a.m.
MAP OF POLITICAL FRANCE *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 7:51 a.m.
LATEST FIGURES SPEAK OF 82% PARTICIPATION...
FarSight3 -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 8:14 a.m.
IT WAS A MASSIVE SHOW OF STRENGTH
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 8:38 a.m.
THE TEAM AT THE HELM *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 2:07 p.m.
THE OTHER LEADER *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 2:28 p.m.
FRENCH SOCIALIST HOUSE CLEANING *PIC*
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 8:28 a.m.
THE SINKING OF EUROPE-LUSITANIA by JESUITS ;-)
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 10:04 a.m.
IS FRANCE READY FOR EARTH CHANGES?
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 5:41 a.m.
THE NEW CHIRAC LOYALIST GOVERNMENT
StClair -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 8:10 a.m.
DE VILLEPIN QUADRUPLE SCORPIO *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 9:10 a.m.
EX CEO/SCI-FI NOVELIST NOW FRENCH ECONOMY TZAR
StClair -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 9:35 a.m.
LIFE IN FRENCH INTELLIGENCE - EX MINISTER SPILLS BEANS *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 1:49 p.m.
EUROPE MAP - SCHEDULE AS TO EU TREATY *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 9:40 a.m.
MEANWHILE NOSTRADAMUS & GRANDFATHER
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 10:40 a.m.
EUROPE & SHARED CELTIC RESOURCES
StClair -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 11:37 a.m.
FRENCH EU VOTE - RED AND BLUE MAP!!
Rayelan -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 2:31 p.m.
WHERE'S SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO IN ALL THIS...?
hobie -- Monday, 30 May 2005, 3:52 p.m.
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO MAP *PIC*
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 2:26 a.m.
Re: SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO MAP
hobie -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 3:06 a.m.
EU WEB SITE / SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 3:46 a.m.
PROGNOSTIC & STATUS ON EACH COUNTRY
StClair -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, 12:13 p.m.
THE DANISH MODEL
StClair -- Wednesday, 8 June 2005, 4:48 a.m.
DE VILLEPIN!" see Lounge prediction *PIC*
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 6:14 a.m.
THE LOYAL ONE *PIC*
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 6:33 a.m.
HE WAS FOR PEACEFUL IRAQ SOLUTION
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 6:56 a.m.
SARKOZY TO BE FRENCH INTERIOR MINISTER
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 7:54 a.m.
CHIRAC WANTS NATIONAL INTEREST FIRST
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 4:46 p.m.
THE ANTI-WAR LOYALIST IS NEW PM
StClair -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, 5:06 p.m.
"YOU ARE A PATHETIC HOSTAGE!" *PIC*
StClair -- Wednesday, 15 June 2005, 12:55 p.m.
JOY SWEEPS FRANCE OVER RETURN OF STAR REPORTER *PIC*
StClair -- Wednesday, 15 June 2005, 1:51 p.m.
DUTCH "NEE" IS REALITY *PIC*
StClair -- Wednesday, 1 June 2005, 6:57 p.m.
IZAKOVIC FROM HIS VIEW IS CORRECT
StClair -- Wednesday, 1 June 2005, 7:34 p.m.
"EUROPE NO LONGER INSPIRES PEOPLE TO DREAM"
StClair -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, 7:15 a.m.
NON NJET NEIN NO NEEEE - hope EU understands languages *PIC*
StClair -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, 8:50 a.m.
STRIKING RAIL WORKERS - NEXT?
StClair -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, 9:13 a.m.
ECONOMY & TURKEY
StClair -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, 10:27 a.m.
WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU...?...
FarSight3 -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, 12:27 p.m.
EU - EUROPE - WHAT DOES THIS SHOW US?"PROTOCOLS"ANYONE? *PIC*
FarSight3 -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 6:40 a.m.
SUPER-STATE VS. NATION-STATE? *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 7:34 a.m.
WHAT´S THE "DIFFERENCE" BETWEEN AN ELEPHANT?
FarSight3 -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 8:35 a.m.
EVEN MORE LAWS AND THOSE "PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS"...
FarSight3 -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 12:11 p.m.
HADASHI:"POLITICAL DEVOLUTION& "EURO MADE FOR ETERNITY"
FarSight3 -- Friday, 3 June 2005, 11:46 a.m.
BLOGGERS TAKE ON EU-ELITE *PIC*
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 4:34 a.m.
VENUS RETRO EU-CONSTITUTION
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 4:58 a.m.
5 REASONS BY A LAWYER WHY NO to EU!
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 6:00 a.m.
MY ROUGH TRANSLATION
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 7:09 a.m.
LUXEMBURG & DENMARK WILL NIX EU TOO...
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 5:29 a.m.
RADICALIZATION NEW THOUGHT SCHOOL...
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 5:42 a.m.
LUXEMBURG PM & EU JUNKER ANNOUNCES HIS RESIGNATION
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 8:35 a.m.
HEALING WORDS FROM THE VETERAN
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 7:49 a.m.
GERMANY SEPTEMBER 2005
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 8:58 a.m.
IN DEFENSE OF SCHROEDER THOUGHT PROCESS
StClair -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, 9:17 a.m.
CHIRAC-SCHROEDER MEET & FISCHER HAS A PLAN FOR EUROPE *PIC*
StClair -- Sunday, 5 June 2005, 6:00 a.m.
TELL EUROPEANS THE TRUTH ABOUT EU-ZIONISTS
StClair -- Sunday, 5 June 2005, 7:58 a.m.
SWISS JOIN THE DUBLIN-SCHENGEN TREATY
StClair -- Sunday, 5 June 2005, 12:16 p.m.
WHAT'S THE "ADVANTAGE" FOR EU-PEOPLE?...
FarSight3 -- Sunday, 5 June 2005, 2:03 p.m.
96.9% OF GERMANS AGAINST EU & LONDON SHELVES REFERENDUM *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 6 June 2005, 3:49 a.m.
EIRE, PORTUGAL, GREECE, SWEDEN A GO - DENMARK ON HOLD
StClair -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, 8:42 a.m.
THE "LAW" IS MOST IMPORTANT,AS THE REFERENDUM ONLY...
FarSight3 -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, 10:56 a.m.
PROJECT "ITER" (The Way)
StClair -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, 11:44 a.m.
GIVERS & TAKERS OF "EU-SYSTEM" (aka NWO) *PIC*
StClair -- Monday, 13 June 2005, 3:54 a.m.
A BETTER LOOK AT EUROPE NOW
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 9:48 a.m.
HOW CAN A NATION BE FORCED
monk -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 10:01 a.m.
IT WILL NOT COME ABOUT...
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 10:27 a.m.
"NOBODY HERE SEEMS TO AGREE" *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 10:42 a.m.
BBC SUMMIT DIARY - SOME SCOOPS HERE!
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 10:55 a.m.
STALE BAGUETTES AND LATE BARS AT EU SUMMIT *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 10:25 p.m.
GERMAN PEOPLE ARE AGAINST EU
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 11:16 a.m.
BOMBSHELL: GERMAN PRESIDENT STOPS EU RATIFICATION *PIC*
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 12:53 p.m.
EU AND WORLD WAR
DocMercer -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 6:01 p.m.
CHIRAC WAS BEGGED *NOT* TO SHOW HIS PEOPLE EU TEXT
StClair -- Friday, 17 June 2005, 1:30 p.m.

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