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Re: TERRI AND THE POPE - WHAT IS GOD TRYING TO TELL US?

Posted By: TONZAL
Date: Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 08:48:38

In Response To: TERRI AND THE POPE - WHAT IS GOD TRYING TO TELL US? (Rayelan)

It is called "Idolization." Giving the Karol one last standing ovation by calling up worshipers of the Catholic Church before they pull the plug. Pope John Paul II, some are now giving him the title of “Great”. Karol-Vatican sealed the final alliance with the Zionists.

When the last pope comes along, Peter of Rome, this man will sell out the Vatican Curia, to ensure his safety in his escape across the Atlantic to their South American base before WWIII starts. The many priests, cardinals, etc. will be murdered at the Vatican and worldwide, while Peter of Rome sits out the war for 4 years waiting to return back to Rome without a house. He will be shocked to find a King ruling over what is left of Europe. The feud starts again.

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The Pope is Slipping into Death's Arms ~ ~ Is Terri
: waiting to greet him?

:

TERRI AND THE POPE
:
: WHAT IS GOD TRYING TO TELL US
: IN THIS TWO ACT TRAGEDY?

: By Rayelan Allan
:


: There are too many similarities between the death of Terri
: Schiavo and the dying process of Pope John Paul II, that I
: am beginning to wonder if a higher power is at work here,
: and this higher power is using the Pope to teach the people
: of the United States, an important lesson.

: I can't help but wonder if the POPE is sending a message to
: the whole world with his death? Or is it only a message to
: those in the United States who do not see value in certain
: human lives?

: Did he make some kind of agreement with God? ...on a higher
: level of course. Something his conscious mind doesn't
: understand. What if the pope is taking on the sins of the
: world? Or maybe just the sins of the United States. What
: if Terri was a wake up call to him, and he knew, that...
: like the kings in the days of old, it was his duty to take
: on the sins of mankind, and take those sins back to God for
: purification.

: Whatever is unfolding on a world stage is beyond the ability
: of most people to comprehend. Is God working through the
: Pope to show the world something? Was the Pope so
: distressed over the killing of Terri that he decided to
: accompany her in the death journey?

: It is obvious to me that there are TOO many connections
: between the Pope and Terri to be just a mere coincidence.
: To me it appears as if God or the Planetary mind has
: orchestrated a set of events that are designed to show
: those who have eyes to see a very profound truth. What is
: that truth? Is there a connection between Terri and the
: Pope? And if there is, what is it?

: Terri Schindler Schiavo died March 31, 2005. One day later, on
: April 1, 2005, Pope John Paul II began his dying journey.

: The Vatican said the 84-year-old pontiff suffered heart
: failure during treatment for a urinary tract infection and
: was "lucid" but in grave condition.
MSNBC

: The official reason for Terri's condition was "heart
: attack". The truth is, Terri was NEVER diagnosed as a
: heart attack victim when she was admitted to the Northside
: Humana emergency room in February 1990. But if you tell a
: lie long enough, people believe it. And so most people
: believe Terri suffered the damage to her brain due to a
: heart attack.

: Like the Pope, Terri also had urinary tract infections. And
: like the Pope, hers could have killed her. ...(Michael)
: Schiavo instructed nurses caring for Terri not to give her
: antibiotics for a urinary tract infection. This untreated
: infection could have brought about Terri's death and this
: fact was know to Schiavo.
RMN Michael Schiavo is a
: Registered Nurse, an RN. Of course he would have known that
: not treating a urinary tract infection could kill someone
: in Terri's condition.

: The Vatican said Friday morning (April 1, 2005) that John
: Paul was in "very grave" condition after
: suffering blood poisoning from a urinary tract infection
: the previous night, but that he was "fully conscious
: and extraordinarily serene."

: snip

: Hospitalized twice in March after breathing crises, and fitted
: with a breathing tube and a feeding tube, John Paul has
: become a picture of suffering.
Chicago Tribune

: The Pope was fitted with a feeding tube because it was hard
: for him to swallow due to the tracheotomy that was
: performed several weeks ago. The Pope could
: swallow, it was just very hard for him to do so. Terri
: could swallow also. It was hard for her to swallow, and it
: took a very long time for the nurses to feed her.

: "Terri CAN swallow... she swallows saliva. She used
: to be fed by mouth in the early days. The tube was inserted
: to make the work of the nurses easier. It takes a long time
: to feed someone like Terri."
RMN

: A doctor close to the Terri Schiavo case told the Florida
: Baptist Witness that the 41-year-old disabled woman could
: actually be fed orally if it were allowed.

: "The important thing for people to understand is that she
: can eat and swallow right now," said William
: Hammesfahr, a neurologist who has examined Schiavo.

: "They are truly withholding food from a person who is
: awake, alert, and can eat and swallow," Hammesfahr
: said.
RMN

: The Pope could also eat, but the severity of his condition
: warrants that he needs the feeding tube to keep him
: nourished. However, if his feeding tube was ordered
: removed, he could still be fed by mouth. Just as Terri
: could have been fed by mouth if Judge Greer had not ordered
: that she be given NO food and NO water by mouth.

: Pope John Paul II, his heart and kidneys failing, was near
: the end as the sun rose over the Vatican early
: Saturday.
Fox News

: As Terri neared her 13th day without food or water. Her
: kidneys began to fail. Her breathing became extremely
: shallow, and we are told that once her kidneys failed
: completely, she had a heart attack and died.

: Friday evening, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls
: said the pope's breathing had become shallow, his blood
: pressure had furthered weakened and his kidney function was
: deteriorating.
CNN

: The similarities between what the Pope is going through and
: what Terri went through are extremely profound. The pope
: was very involved in trying to save Terri Schindler. He was
: deeply moved and saddened by the thought that people would
: allow a healthy woman to be starved and dehydrated to
: death.

: The American people are an extremely caring and loving people.
: The world doesn't see us that way, but throughout our
: nation, there are stories of people coming together and
: doing extremely heroic things to save the lives of animals,
: children and people. At least once a week we read a story
: about a fireman who saved a cat or a dog by giving it mouth
: to mouth resusitation. All through this country are stories
: of people who find sick and dying animals and nurse them
: back to health, usually incurring huge veterinary bills.

: To see a woman being deprived of food and water for the
: purpose of killing her is something the Pope could not
: understand. It is something that none of us who know the
: facts of this case can understand. Terri could swallow, but
: Judge Greer's order specifically stated that she could NOT
: be given food or water by mouth.

: The Schindlers filed a petition to have her fed by mouth.
: Judge Greer denied it. In other words, a Judge, a husband
: and his lawyer, all of whom knew that Terri could eat by
: mouth, forbid others to feed her because they wanted her
: dead!

: From time to time here in America we see horrible, unspeakable
: things happen. The Manson murders, Jeffrey Dahmer's murder
: and cannibalism, the Hillside Strangler's rampage of rape,
: torture and murder, school shootings, Jim Jones massive
: cult suicide murders, The Zebra killings in San Francisco,
: pedophile rapes and murders, and other crimes too numerous
: to name here. However, even though there are thousands of
: these kinds of murders, they are still extremely rare in
: the United States. This kind of behavior is not the norm in
: the United States.

: For the most part, Americans are friendly, caring, and loving
: people. They will give a stranger the shirt off their
: backs. They will pay the vet bills to heal an injured
: animal. They will help pay the bills for children with
: cancer or other life threatening diseases. When a story of
: abuse, accident, deprivation, or disease comes to the
: attention of Americans, they will do whatever is necessary
: to help. Some people even bankrupt themselves to help
: others. I have personally known people who have done this.
: Why do they do it? Because they believe it is the right
: thing to do. Most Americans are like this.

: When Terri's plight came to the attention of America, the
: mainstream media (MSM)misrepresented the facts at every
: turn. Then the MSM took polls. The polls gave no factual
: information on the case, such as Terri could talk, Terri
: could eat, and Terri's parents and siblings had volunteered
: to care for her at no charge to the state. Most of the
: people who voted in the polls didn't understand Terri's
: case. They had gotten their information from the very MSM
: outlet that crafted the poll. Naturally the poll came out
: exactly the way that it was supposed to. Most people who
: voted said that Terri should be removed from the feeding
: tube and allowed to die. The very people who would go
: bankrupt caring for a hurt animal, voted to see Terri
: starved and dehydrated to death... 13 long and torturous
: days because a Judge had over ruled Congress, the President
: and the Governor and decided that Terri must die, even
: though she could have been kept alive with mouth feeding.

: Americans had been subjected to a fight over feeding tubes
: once before. but in that case, it was the state that was
: trying to keep the woman alive and her parents who were
: fighting to have the tube withdrawn. In the case of Nancy
: Cruzan, her parents fought for almost a decade to have her
: feeding tube withdrawn. Finally, in a landmark decision,
: the Supreme Court ruled that receiving food and water
: through tubes administered by nurses and doctors
: constitutes medical treatment
and that if there is
: clear and convincing evidence about what a patient would
: have wanted, then the feeding tubes can be withdrawn.

: In the case of Nancy Cruzan, her parents had NOT heard her
: talk. They had not seen her smile when they entered the
: room. Nurses had not heard Nancy tell them she was in pain.
: Nurses had not seen Nancy smile when they put Jello in her
: mouth. Nancy was in a persistant vegetative state. Nancy's
: case was different from Terri's.

: Terri did smile when one of the nurses gave her Jello. She did
: try to talk to her parents. She did smile when they came
: in. She could tell the nurses she was in pain and needed
: something for it. Terri's parents believed that she could
: be helped in physical therapy. They were never given the
: chance to see if Terri could improve. Terri's husband, his
: lawyer and their Judge saw to it that Terri had no physical
: rehabilitation, and no food or water by mouth even though
: Terri could swallow.

: Why would a lawyer and a judge work so hard to kill a woman
: who could live without life supports if only someone would
: feed her?

: Few people realize that every single Florida institution,
: (Governor Bush excluded), every legal, judicial, medical,
: societal, journalistic and even religious, from the office
: of Attorney General Charlie Crist, on down through the
: ranks to the local police department, is arrayed against
: this woman. This is a big case. Whatever happens to Terri
: has the potential to affect the entire U. S. population, a
: fact few people realize.
RMN

: Who could possibly want the United States to start killling
: its old, its infirmed, its disabled and its unwanted?

: In 1994, emigree [someone who leaves one country to settle
: in another] billionaire Geroge Soros wrote a check for $15
: million to finance the Project on Death in America (PDIA).
: Its goal was to "transform the culture of death in the
: United States." By 2003 when the PDIA ended its grant
: making and closed the program, it had distributed $45
: million to organization and individuals working on
: end-of-life issues. Altho, the project is closed the work
: goes on. Is a large part of that work to make
: doctor-assisted suicide legal? It would seem so.
: http://www.soros.org/initiatives/pdia/about >
: In 1991, Dereck Humphrey wrote euthanasia's most famous
: textbook, Final Exit and embarked on a career to further
: the cause of "death with dignity." (Allegedly,
: Felos and Michael attempted to use some of the protocol
: found in Final Exit on Terri). Soros and Humphrey were on
: the same wave link and in 1997, Oregon became the first
: state to legalize physician-assisted suicide.

: On the May 18th Fox News O'Reilly show, investigative
: reporter and best selling author Richard Poe gave an expose
: on Soros. Poe claims Soros is a maniacal figure who fancies
: himself as a New Age Messiah and that his philanthropy
: funds abortion, atheism, drug legalization, sex education,
: gay marriage, and globalization. He is out to destroy
: America as we know it, says Poe. In a Newmax cover story,
: Poe writes of the dark purpose behind Soros' $200-million
: "Project on Death" program. Soros, who authored
: The Bubble of American Supremacy, is bankrolling the
: Democratic party's attempt to unseat President Bush.
: Militantly anti-religious, Soros writes that "devout
: believers of any sort are idiots who shouldn't hold public
: office."
RMN

: At the moment, America is a divided nation. It appears to be
: divided into red and blue states... based on how people
: voted in the last election, i.e. Republican or Democrat.
: But the division in America is far greater than this. The
: division is really all about those who believe in a higher
: power and those who don't. Atheism and communism have
: always gone hand in hand. In the last few decades atheism
: has bonded with abortion, sex education, euthanasia, gay
: activists and activist judges! America was founded by
: people who believed in a higher power. They believed that
: the rights for every man and woman come from God. People
: who don't believe in God can not believe their rights and
: liberty come from God. Therefore they must believe that it
: comes from the state.

: If they are successful in setting up their godless state, then
: they will be subject to whatever whims or ideosyncratic
: behavior the head of state has. Is he a pedophile who urges
: all people to start having sex with their children? Is he a
: sadist who tortures his enemies and his friends alike? If
: the rights and liberties of a state come only from the
: state and whoever runs it... the state can devolve into a
: nightmare for its people. Since the State makes all the
: rules, the state can decide when a person should die, and
: the state can do whatever it takes to kill that person.

: The fake polls show that many Americans choose a
: "cultural of death". They believe in assisted
: suicide, pulling feeding tubes, and other forms of
: euthanasia. The Pope saw what America was becoming. He
: realized that the State of Florida okayed the starvation of
: a woman who could have survived without breathing tubes or
: feeding tubes. But one probate Judge, backed by a lawyer
: who appears to be fascinated with death, and a husband who
: wanted his wife dead, ordered the feeding tube removed and
: ordered that she NOT be given any food or water by mouth.
: The Pope saw that the United States was becoming very much
: like the former Soviet Union that had held his beloved
: Poland in chains for almost 45 years. He saw that the
: kindest nation on earth was heading in a direction that
: would be replete with cruelty, torture and death for the
: most helpless and innocent.

: The Pope tried to help Terri in every way possible, short of
: ordering her kidnapped and flown to the Vatican. When he
: saw that no one listened to his plea to spare her life,
: when he saw that an activist probate judge could over rule
: a President, a Congress, and a governor, he realized that
: America had stopped being good.

: Alexis de Tocqueville wrote: "America is great because
: America is good. If America ever stops being good, it will
: cease to be great!"

: Could the Pope have realized that America had stopped being
: good, and he knew that de Tocqueville's words were true.
: Once America stops being good, it will stop being great!

: The similarity of what has happened to Terri and now to the
: Pope is staggering. On the day that Terri dies due to
: her feeding tube being pulled... the pope gets a feeding
: tube.

: The day after she dies of starvation, the pope has a
: heart attack.. the same thing that supposedly put Terri in
: her brain damaged state.

: Terri got urinary tract infections and could have died. The
: Pope has one and as a result developed a high fever and
: shallow breathing and is now slipping into death.

: I can't help but wonder if the POPE is sending a message to
: the whole world with his death?

: What if he made some kind of agreement with God... on a higher
: level of course... something his conscious mind doesn't
: understand... what if the pope is taking on the sins of
: the world? Or maybe just the sins of the United States.
: What if Terri was a wake up call to him, and he knew, that
: like the kings in the days of old, it was his duty to take
: on the sins of mankind, and take those sins back to God for
: purification.

: Whatever is unfolding on a world stage is beyond the ability
: of most people to comprehend. Is God working through the
: Pope to show the world something?

: It is obvious to me that there are TOO many similarities
: between what happend to Terri and what the Pope is going
: through one day after she died, to be just a mere
: coincidence.

: I believe that God has orchestrated a set of events that are
: designed to change the hearts of people who have the
: ability to understand his message. If enough people in the
: United States are changed by the recent happenings, they
: can join together and restore America to the good country
: that De Tocqueville wrote about. And once again people can
: say,

:

"America is great because America is good."
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Articles In This Thread

TERRI AND THE POPE - WHAT IS GOD TRYING TO TELL US?
Rayelan -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 05:17:24
THE POPE IS THE WARRIOR, NOT THE MESSENGER
IZAKOVIC -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 07:18:19
Re: TERRI AND THE POPE - WHAT IS GOD TRYING TO TELL US?
TONZAL -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 08:48:38
FUNDAMENTALIST STATEMENT
economica -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 09:26:10
READERS: SOME AGREE W/MY ANALYSIS, SOME DON'T
Rayelan -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 11:51:44
READER: DID YOU NOTICE HOW FAST TERRI WAS FORGOTTEN?
Rayelan -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 13:38:44
A GRASSROOTS QUEST TO IMPEACH THESE JUDGES
Rayelan -- Saturday, 2-Apr-2005 13:45:10

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