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Real-Vision Dialogue

Posted By: TONZAL
Date: Thursday, 14-Oct-2004 14:18:15

In Response To: A PLANET WITHOUT MONEY; SCIENTIST OVERTHROW ARISTOCRATS (TONZAL)

Real-Vision Dialogue

Names of some of the true Earth contactees who have had dialogue with
extraterrestrial intelligences:

ET (female): ...
Alois Rikenbach, from Switzerland. Personal contact with
extraterrestrials. Kept silent about it.

Horst Raps, from Germany. Real-Vision contact with extraterrestrials.
(The knowledge about this contact became extinguished in him again,
since he offers himself deceptively as an ongoing contactee.)

Charles A. Maney, from USA. Had direct contact with extraterrestrials,
but kept strict silence about it.

Wilbert B. Smith, from Canada. Had direct contact with
extraterrestrials, but according to an order kept strict silence. Became
the leader of the Canadian Project Magnet.

This is the list which I am allowed to tell at first. About three
further world-recognized publicly known contactees, I am not allowed to
give out information.

Earth man: That is sufficient for me today with these names. You surely
will tell me at a given time also the three other names, will you not?

ET (female): Surely.

Earth man: Well, there you have called a word two times which is fully
unknown to me. I mean the word "Real-Vision". What does it mean?

ET (female): I understand, of course you can not know it, for it is one
of our composite words for a certain kind of guided vision.

Earth man: Then I will surely be able to find it in my dictionary

ET (female): This will not be, because the word's expression rises from
our civilization.

Earth man: Then please explain to me what it means.

ET (female): You are indefatigable, but I want to grant your wish. A
Real-Vision is a certain kind of controlled vision. It concerns a kind
of vision which is mastered by many (ET) intelligences, like as well the
Great Aryan-Intelligences. By these as desired evoke and controllable
visions we influence many forms of life, to offer them in this way,
certain impressions which ought to be instructive for them, and which
they should make accessible to other people by spreading, too, to
influence their environment in suited manner. These controllable visions
are so completely realistic, that the influenced person becomes
convinced that he/she has experienced the vision in reality. Just because of
this, we call it "Real-Vision", because it seems so much realistic. Each
Real-Vision occurrence lasts as long a time as it would take in reality.
Such Real-Visions do not last only seconds or minutes long, but they
last as long as the real experience would need in time.

Earth man: This is fantastic. So this must mean that a human being may
have an experience which in truth is simply not what it seems, but only
rises from a projected vision, but he is not able to differentiate this
from reality, and thus believe that the seeming experience to be a true
experience.

ET (female): Surely, exactly as you describe.

Earth man: But now, if a human being has an experience, is released from
it and lives on as usual, to be again confronted with such a Real-Vision
later, what happens then?

ET (female): Nothing, because his Real-Visions and the reality are a
connected and continuous series of events, which can not be
differentiated from each other at all, not by Earth human beings.

Earth man: This is more than fantastic. Oh my dear. So for example, I
could be treated by you to a Real-Vision, and would believe in my
consciousness I had experienced the vision in reality. Then I would just
go on living and lead a normal life, to be some time later treated by
you to a Real-Vision, whose experiences I would once more take for
reality without noticing that I had suffered in reality only a vision?

ET (female): That is it, only you have chosen a bad example.

Earth man: Why?

ET (female): Because you are able to differentiate the reality from the
real vision, too.

Earth man: That is crazy. Why should I be able to do that?

ET (female): Because that ......

Earth man: My dear girl, how do I suddenly get into your ship?

ET (female): You see?

Earth man: I still do not understand how you perform this at all? Just
in this moment I have been in your spaceship, and at the same time I sit
here before the typewriter and write down my question, while I was in
the ship. Girl, you joke. You have only shown something to me, but I am
inclined to assume having really been in your ship. The persuasion to
believe this is very strong, but why?

ET (female): Do you now see? That was a Real-Vision of only a few,
seconds duration. But you have blocked it inside of you, which always
allow you to recognize the reality. Other Earth creatures do not know
such a block, and in a fraction of a second they fall to the influence,
to accept the matter for a given truth.

Earth man: This is crazy, girl. But for all the world, why do you do
this? This is deceit.

ET (female): Exercised in this form it is not deceit, because the event
serves for the enlargement of truth in the concerned creature. When
Earth human beings are influenced in this way, it happens only for a
reason, because they would not be able to experience the visionary
events in reality.

Earth man: I accept this. You say these Real-Visions last as long a time
as the real event would take. Thus rather much time could pass, and even
many hours?

ET (female): Surely, even days or weeks...

Earth man: Dear me. Then these poor creatures would starve from hunger.

ET (female): You forget, this vision appears very solidly real.

Earth man: You mean that the influenced persons feel then their natural
needs, like hunger and thirst and tiredness, and so on?

ET (female): Surely.

Earth man: But what do these people eat and drink? And when they have
long Real-Visions out of home, where do they sleep?

ET (female): That is quite simple. In the state of Real-Vision they are
master of many spiritual forces which lie sleeping in their
subconscious. They use them unconsciously in the manner that by the
feeling of hunger and thirst they condense matter and precipitate
solidly exactly those eatable and drinkable things which they experience
in their Real-Visions. By these then they also nourish themselves. This
is like the event demonstrated by Emmanuel around two thousand years ago
when he fed some 5,000 Earth human beings by bread, which he multiplied
in this way. The difference is only that Real-Vision influenced persons
exercise their abilities unconsciously while Emmanuel was consciously
able to do this.

Earth man: But this still does not explain the concerns of sleeping.

ET (female): The influenced ones are very normal in this respect. They
keep themselves up like they are used to in all respects, but do sleep
when they are away from home, anywhere in the available environment.
Usually this is arranged, the influenced person being guided to
trustworthy ones... Normally also these trustworthy ones are influenced
too, but in another manner, in consequence of which they care for the
visionary.

Earth man: That is interesting, but what do these people speak to such?

ET (female): They are influenced, thus have no recollection of the
visionary.

Earth man: Fantastic. Slowly my head smokes from these matters. But I
recognize from your information, that neither Raps nor Berlet have flown
in spaceships, and just have these experiences in the form mentioned by
you.

ET (female): Surely.

Earth man: OK, enough with that. But now what about those persons who
have received messages from Ashtar Sheran? One of those persons I know
of is named Speer. This one is not on the list. On the other hand many
others are known names, who are especially named in the Ventla Verlag
publications, in books and magazines.

[Ventla Verlag is the publishing entity headed by Karl Veit of
Wiesbaden, West Germany which prints and distributes the only UFO
newspaper in the world, called UFO NACHRICHTEN. They also publish UFO
books and booklets.]

ET (female): As you were informed by my associate, Ashtar belongs to the
Great Aryan-Intelligences, and so at first further development was
expected. We are informed of the names in books and scripts of Ventla
Verlag Publications, as well as many other groups and single persons. As
contactees, they are completely unknown to us, while many other ones we
know belong partly to the Great Aryan-Intelligences, who misuse the
truth. (PS: Ashtar died in war in the 1980s.)

Earth man: That will produce an uproar, Dear girl, because just the
Ventla Verlag publications indicate very many names .....

ET (female): ...Of which only a few are (real) contactees.

Earth man: You are rather radical.

ET (female): The truth often sounds hard. ... And now I have to tell
you still another thing: Concerning your knowledge of the Spanish
Dictator Franco. You analyzed his date of death, and went beyond what I
told you, that you should keep silent about it. As usual, one brought
You pressure, in the form of...(said person), to write down the date.
This I have noticed while monitoring him. I also know his reasons for
that, this would be proof for the correctness of your prediction. This I
can understand when I take into consideration the constant distrust of
the Earth human beings. But it is by no manner of importance and meaning
that we know of coming events in advance, and whether we give them
publicity or not. Many such revelations would have catastrophic
consequences, which is why we have to omit them. But the one who wants
to accept the facts can do it and profit from these. Well, Despite my
admonition you have written the date of death of Francisco Franco in a
letter, and brought it to the post office, well sealed, in a place
called Arosa, addressed to...(said person). You meant well by it, but we
can not accept such carelessness, because in the manyfold possibilities
this letter could nevertheless, in spite of your precautionary means,
have been opened too early. So we had to interfere and stop the letter
from the day of, mailing on the 5th of November. It is not lost, but
only secured, to be stored in a safe place, from where then it will be
further mailed when the mentioned date of the death of Franco has come
to pass.

Earth man: That is okay with me. I really have acted inconsiderately.

...

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